DD's former boyfriend had a gun when he sought her out!

Claudia1

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DD has a former boyfriend that showed abusive tendencies and they broke up over it. (Not DGD's birth father.... she is a magnet for guys that are controlling in nature because she has a dependent nature..... sigh.......) They have not been an "item" for over a year.

Whenever this guy broke up with a girlfriend, he tried to come back to her. He knew that we did not allow contact so he calls her on her cell when she is not around us (like right after school, during school ball games, etc...) She is a Senior and he is out of school. He was expelled last year, his Senior year, for fighting and is not in school this year.

When other girlfriends has broken up with him, he has done things like called & came to their homes at all hours of the day & night, paint-balled a car, spread lies about them, etc.... He has not done these things with our DD because he knews we will agressively & legally pursue him. The other parents were just glad to get rid of him.

His agressive tendencies have dramatically increased. He knows that he is not to talk to her but he suddenly appeared in the school parking lot after school yesterday. He was blocking her car. He stared at her and didn't say a word. She yelled at him for being there and he still didn't way a word. Other kids were there and he left after a few minutes.

Three of the kids saw his gun sitting openly on the front seat.

Today, I was in the parking lot but he did not return. The principal was not there today but I'm sure that actions will be taken. He has not business on school property for any reason and firearms are not allowed.

This is scary stuff. He did not technically harrass her. He knows just how to not cross that legal line. He is a master at provoking others to make the first move. While is it true that he broke the school rules about firearms and being on the premises without a cause, he did not do enough to our DD for any legal action. (Our attorney is a retired judge, so he knows what is crossing the line.)

Now we have to worry about her when she is just out driving to friends, to school, and to her DD's daycare. A couple of weeks ago, he pulled up at a stoplight next to one of DD's good, guy friends. He pointed the gun at her friends, laughed, and drove off. If he drives up beside her and shows the gun, especially if her DD is with her, she will become frantic and who knows what could happen.

This is very, very scary stuff.
 
At this point it seems that he has done enough to make your daughter fearful that he will cause her serious physical harm, which in many states on it's own merit is an assault. (I'm not a lawyer, and I didn't even stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night)

I would first get a restraining order. I know that they aren't worth the paper they are printed on, but it would give leverage. You also need to document every bit of contact, it could qualify as stalking in some states.

Is there any place she can go and stay, maybe an out of state relative or family friend for a bit until this cools down a bit?

Anne
 
Oh, my. You are right--this is very scary stuff. To be taken very seriously.

Is there anyway your DH can accompany DD to school, daycare, etc for a while? I would NOT want her driving anywhere alone for now.

And, I would be sure to contact your DGD's daycare with his description, vehicle description, etc. I would want a thorough review of their security system. Are main doors locked, only one entrance, etc.

And I would arm your DD with a cell phone and a can of maze at a minimum.

I am so sorry--it is unbelievable how crazy some people are in this world.
 
It is very scary, I agree. Make sure she has her own gun to defend herself.

I'm not joking.
 

It is very scary, I agree. Make sure she has her own gun to defend herself.

I'm not joking.

well you should be because any student around here carrying their own gun onto a High School campus would be immediately suspended.
 
Originally posted by Toby'sFriend
well you should be because any student around here carrying their own gun onto a High School campus would be immediately suspended.

And any student around here that gets shot would be worse off than being suspended.

Suspended if caught, but alive.

Remember, a life lost because a gun was NOT present is just as important as a life lost because a gun WAS present.

If a tragedy could be prevented by being armed, I would take the chance.

Possible suspension, or prevent your daugher from possibly being shot?

Sounds like an easy choice to me.
 
I agree with other to get a restraining order. I would also make it very clear to the daycare center who is allowed to pick up the child and them ONLY!
Who knows what crazy things are running through this guy's mind.
Glad you are involving school administration too.
 
ITA TF...in our school district it would mean expulsion. Not to mention the fact that her having a gun would for sure turn any confrontation into a gun fight with him probably winning the battle. Work with the local LE and school administration.

Take her out of school and leave the area, if need be. But do not put a gun into the hands of a person with no weapons experience (your DD) It will make an already potentially dangerous situation end with a guaranteed lethal outcome.

Good luck to you, you will be in my thoughts and prayers....
 
does her school have a school resource officer? if so, definitely get him involved.
 
Originally posted by LarryC
And any student around here that gets shot would be worse off than being suspended.

Suspended if caught, but alive.

Remember, a life lost because a gun was NOT present is just as important as a life lost because a gun WAS present.

If a tragedy could be prevented by being armed, I would take the chance.

Possible suspension, or prevent your daugher from possibly being shot?

Sounds like an easy choice to me.
With all due respect Larry, that is really, really bad advice.
 
Originally posted by LarryC
And any student around here that gets shot would be worse off than being suspended.

Suspended if caught, but alive.

Remember, a life lost because a gun was NOT present is just as important as a life lost because a gun WAS present.

If a tragedy could be prevented by being armed, I would take the chance.

Possible suspension, or prevent your daugher from possibly being shot?

Sounds like an easy choice to me.

GET REAL!!!! Encouraging a teenager to carry a gun to school? Are you out of your ever loving mind??? Do you at all remember Columbine? I do. I can't believe a grown adult would even remotely think it's ok for a child to carry a gun to school!! That is INSANE!!!! Not to mention the fact that the child in question has a child of her own!! Unbelievable!!!
 
Most states it is a felony to have a weapon within something like 500 yards of school.

Id let the police know about it for sure. Give them Make/Model of the car.

Thats really messed up!!
 
Yes, I agree that giving her a gun is NOT the answer!

No, we do not have a resource officer. The principal is GREAT and I will talk to her ASAP in the morning. I hoping that the school will press the charges. It will not only validate us but provide a little distance between us and him if somebody else is after him, too.

I didn't realize that some states have rules about guns near schools. I'll definetly check that one out!

For the time being, she is never alone and I'm not allowing her to drive with her DD. She will be able to function better under pressure if her maternal instincts don't take control. (Remember, she has a mental processing profile that affects some situations that require fast & appropriate mental skills.)

I should also mention that he is 18 and she is still on 17. She also has a large group of friends that are fighting mad. I hope that the guys don't do anything stupid to protect her! They really need to leave it up to us & the law!

He is adamant that he will always control her and she is pulling away. With time has come some maturity and strength. While she still has a dependent personality and her functions are still impaired in some cases, she is older, stronger, and trying to do what is right. The more she pulls away, the more he tries to pull her back. She does not initiate contact....... he does.


Thanks, guys!
 
Originally posted by gymnasticsmom68
...Do you at all remember Columbine? I do.

Did any one of you gun-haters ever think that if ONE other student BESIDES the killers had a gun that this tragedy might have been prevented?

You all seem to attribute the bad things that can happen when a gun is present, while ignoring the fact that a gun can save your life.

Maybe you all should read the story of the female doctor in Texas who was forced to leave her gun outside the Luby's restaurant and watched helplessly as her parents and 20 other were slaughtered by a maniac with a gun. If she had been allowed to bring her weapon inside, she could have stopped this madman.

If this pyscho who is stalking your daughter pulls a gun and attempts to harm her, do you think your "pixie dust" is going to help her? Get real!!

While I sincerely hope the police can prosecute this criminal, the fact remains that obeying a rule and being dead is NOT better than breaking a rule and being and alive. It's better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6.
 
Originally posted by LarryC
And any student around here that gets shot would be worse off than being suspended.

Suspended if caught, but alive.

Remember, a life lost because a gun was NOT present is just as important as a life lost because a gun WAS present.

If a tragedy could be prevented by being armed, I would take the chance.

Possible suspension, or prevent your daugher from possibly being shot?

Sounds like an easy choice to me.

This is likely the single most idiotic thing I have ever read on this entire board.
 
Pulling up at a stoplight & pointing a gun? Isn't that grounds for something??? Can you get a restraining order?? Not that they really help. Can you get copies of her cell phone bill - make sure that there are no "outgoing" calls to him. Can't he be gotten for stalking or something?? What about changing her cell phone # as well, so he can't call her. He sounds very dangerous. Could you get any of the other parents of ex-girlfriends to help in getting this psycho arrested. Sounds like he needs medical help.
 
Originally posted by Claudia1

Three of the kids saw his gun sitting openly on the front seat.

If one of these kids would have called the police right then, maybe this kid would be in jail and you wouldn't have to worry about this.

In the meantime, I wouldn't let her walk or go anywhere by herself and definitely make the authorities aware of the situation.

And give Larry some slack, his thoughts are actually quite sound. A weapon in the hands of a trained, competent person can be a life saver. Perhaps in this situation it's not the best solution, but it does have some merit.
 
Ok just for clarification what type of gun did he have with him? Was it a true firearm or was it a paintball gunas you didn't really specify I realize at close range if it is a high end paintball gun it can still inflict quite a bit of harm but it will still not likeley kill you like a true firearm will. No it doesn't make it any better but it may play into things if this was to ever go to court. One reason I am glad I live in Canada and we have very stringent gn controll laws.
 
Larry,
she is just a teenager. She has no gun training. do You think he is going to let her whip out a gun. She would surely go to jail. Its better to move if you have to. Change her cell #. I had a stalker and moved to california like overnight and came back 2 months later then moved again 2 months later.
 
Originally posted by Jasminesmommy
Larry,
she is just a teenager. She has no gun training. do You think he is going to let her whip out a gun. She would surely go to jail. Its better to move if you have to. Change her cell #. I had a stalker and moved to california like overnight and came back 2 months later then moved again 2 months later.

It's ALWAYS better to avoid the situation if possible. No argument from me.
 












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