DCL Alaska summer 2022 what are you doing?

[mlayman7]

We canceled our May trip because we wanted all the excursions to be happening but doubt that will happen for late May so planning on booking next summer instead.

 

[lovingeire]

Looks like Canada is about to remove arrival testing for fully vaccinated Canadians:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/pcr-test-travel-canada-1.6347334
My estimate is that this will extend to fully vaccinated Americans too.

This is exciting! Thanks for sharing! With the number of people with dual citizenship or family members who have it, adding it for Americans makes sense as well. Additionally, right now their requirements pretty much refer to both Canadians and Americans so I'd say there's a high likelihood. Since my whole extended family lives in Canada, except two cousins who do have dual citizenship, I'm feeling hopeful. I'm really hoping to see my elderly uncles and aunt, as well as my cousins.

 

[Intr3pid]

I just can’t see Canada specifically changing testing requirements based on nationality. That will really be another frustrating shock to the system. I’m trying to rack my brain what country has done that yet. What has happened in the past is that entry to a country have been limited to citizens or residents. If you recall back to various bans on international travel.
But no country has yet to differentiate on testing based on nationality or residency. What has been used to differentiate is where a person has been the past 14 days regardless of passport, but on location and vaccination status.

It makes no epidemic sense to require a British person in a flight from London to Toronto to have a PCR test but the Canadian passport holder next to them on the same flight does not. If both are fully Vaxxed and were in the UK the past 14 days.

In case I’m confusing you guys with the 14 day rule - that’s been globally the general rule during Covid on restrictions. Example there never was a “South African” citizen ban. You just couldn’t enter the US if you had been in South Africa, regardless of nationality, the past 14 days.

Canada itself has on several occasions.

When they lifted the border restrictions last summer, Americans were given a head start - before the Canadian border opened to the rest of the world. Prior to that, there was no quarantine required for US land border arrivals.

Today as well, US arrivals in Canada are subject to only random arrival testing, while those from elsewhere mandatory. Notwithstanding some airports don't have the capacity and do random for everyone.

 

[mousefan73]

Canada itself has on several occasions.

When they lifted the border restrictions last summer, Americans were given a head start - before the Canadian border opened to the rest of the world. Prior to that, there was no quarantine required for US land border arrivals.

Today as well, US arrivals in Canada are subject to only random arrival testing, while those from elsewhere mandatory. Notwithstanding some airports don't have the capacity and do random for everyone.

I think you’re misunderstanding my point. US arrivals never meant US citizens. In fact before Canada opened up for Europe a loophole for me and my mom was to fly first to the US, hang out there for 14 days and then we could enter Canada. (same Loophole to enter the US when the borders were closed, many people hung out in Mexico first for 14 days and then could enter the US even if their native country was on the “ban” list) Now we can fly directly.

I work for an airline and deal with this all the time and I cannot think of a case where testing requirements have been differentiated based on what passport you have. Throughout Covid travel restrictions, nationality or residency only played a role if borders were closed and you wanted to come back home. You would be allowed home. Regardless though testing requirements were always the same For everyone on that flight or vaxx status , where nationality never played a role.

In reading the article that’s what I find odd as it refers to Canadians:
“The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation earlier reported the federal government was close to removing mandatory COVID-19 PCR testing for fully vaccinated Canadians who travel outside Canada.”

I wonder if that’s just bad reporting or does Canada really mean to say that on an international flight returning to Canada Canadians citizens are exempt from PCR testing but not the rest of the passengers? When all other requirements are the same(everyone’s fully Vaxxed). That I find very odd and have never seen before.

 

[Intr3pid]

I think you’re misunderstanding my point. US arrivals never meant US citizens. In fact before Canada opened up for Europe a loophole for me and my mom was to fly first to the US, hang out there for 14 days and then we could enter Canada. (same Loophole to enter the US when the borders were closed, many people hung out in Mexico first for 14 days and then could enter the US even if their native country was on the “ban” list) Now we can fly directly.

I work for an airline and deal with this all the time and I cannot think of a case where testing requirements have been differentiated based on what passport you have. Throughout Covid travel restrictions, nationality or residency only played a role if borders were closed and you wanted to come back home. You would be allowed home. Regardless though testing requirements were always the same For everyone on that flight or vaxx status , where nationality never played a role.

In reading the article that’s what I find odd as it refers to Canadians:
“The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation earlier reported the federal government was close to removing mandatory COVID-19 PCR testing for fully vaccinated Canadians who travel outside Canada.”

I wonder if that’s just bad reporting or does Canada really mean to say that on an international flight returning to Canada Canadians citizens are exempt from PCR testing but not the rest of the passengers? When all other requirements are the same(everyone’s fully Vaxxed). That I find very odd and have never seen before.

Which international routes does your airline operate? There are several countries around the world treating incoming travelers differently for testing based on countries. While they don't do it explicitly based on passports, 90% of those targeted would be the residents of these countries.

Here is UAE's example.
https://www.emirates.com/ca/english/help/covid-19/dubai-travel-requirements/tourists/
And New Zealand's example:
https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work...mation-specific-audiences/covid-19-travellers
That said, while arrivals from the US may not mean just US passports, the overwhelming majority are the Canadians or US residents. For all practical purposes, the favored rules benefit these two groups, and that's the context in which we are discussing the changes.