DaVinci Code Protesters

[sha_lyn]

The protesters looked too "red neck" to be Catholic if that makes any sense. There are actually few few Catholics in the area, and most have moved here in the last 10-15 years. The protesters appeared to be from some of the very fundamental churches. Actually the same ones that would preach that Catholics are not Christan and are all going to hell too.

But speaking of facts in connection with the bible is utterly ridiculous. This collection of stories has been written centuries after the things they are based on happened. It has been translated so often that most probably not much of its original content is left over anyway.

Not to mention that there are many "books" that were left out by the scholars that worked for King James. The KJ version (and those translation that came from it) are usually used by Protestant Churches. They, and the Catholic Bible do not contain all the same books, chapters and verses.

So if the bible is the direct word of God, which bible is correct?

 

[PixieDust32]

If they did that over here, they would be in big trouble: I'm very tolerant, but anyone touch my car and I go berzerk. It's the only crime I consider worthy of capital punishment

I know, I wasn't happy about it, but they were gone already.

The paper was a 10.000 dollar bill, with the mona lisa in the middle, and the last supper and other stuff, then on the back was a long speach, and it to claim the 10k you had to go to a web site

 

[sha_lyn]

There are text that go back as far as those that were chosen to be included in the bible that name Mary Magdalene as the bride of Jesus http://www.mormon.citymax.com/wife_apostle_mary.html
http://altreligion.about.com/library/bl_dvmagdalen.htm

 

[wvrevy]

In other words, Tinatark, "ignorance is bliss?" Better those "not strong in their faith" - by which, you mean, able to turn a blind eye and ignore anything that doesn't fit into their pretty little picture of the world - better that they never be exposed to anything that might cause them to think for themselves, rather than according to church doctrine. Is that pretty much what you are saying?

And the DaVinci Code is NOT completely fiction. It is what is generally known as "historical" fiction - stories based on facts, but with some liberties taken with some details. But there are facts there, if you're just willing to not blind yourself in the name of religion and actually see them. 'Course, I'm willing to bet that anybody willing to call the bible "historical truth" probably isn't going to be willing to do that.

Look up the sites that support his assertions, then look up the ones trying to shoot them down. Sure, there are some basic things that he got wrong in his book...but there was a lot that he got right, too...including much of the exceedingly dark history of the Catholic church and the christian religion. Just do the research. Ignorance is curable, but if you're not willing to make the attempt it can easily turn into stupidity.

 

[cardaway]

I think DC is much the same, except people who don't "Know" it's fiction will buy into the story as truth - like I've said, I've already seen it in one of our employees, also an acquaintenance is *rethinking everything about church* because of the book.

A great thing IMO. Every belief should be challenged once in awhile, especially something as important as religious beliefs.

The DC joins a very big group of movies that made people re-think their religious beliefs, but it does a better job of it than the majority of the other examples. IMO the protests are a reaction based on fear.

 

[ncdisneyfan]

But speaking of facts in connection with the bible is utterly ridiculous. This collection of stories has been written centuries after the things they are based on happened. It has been translated so often that most probably not much of its original content is left over anyway.

Could I ask your basis for these statements, if you don't mind? For example, exactly which stories were written centuries after the fact? And how much research have you done on the "original content" the Bible is based on and what remains of it? Just curious...

 

[PixieDust32]

A great thing IMO. Every belief should be challenged once in awhile, especially something as important as religious beliefs.

The DC joins a very big group of movies that made people re-think their religious beliefs, but it does a better job of it than the majority of the other examples. IMO the protests are a reaction based on fear.

Yup! if the fear something, must be a reason.

 

[PixieDust32]

In other words, Tinatark, "ignorance is bliss?" Better those "not strong in their faith" - by which, you mean, able to turn a blind eye and ignore anything that doesn't fit into their pretty little picture of the world - better that they never be exposed to anything that might cause them to think for themselves, rather than according to church doctrine. Is that pretty much what you are saying?

And the DaVinci Code is NOT completely fiction. It is what is generally known as "historical" fiction - stories based on facts, but with some liberties taken with some details. But there are facts there, if you're just willing to not blind yourself in the name of religion and actually see them. 'Course, I'm willing to bet that anybody willing to call the bible "historical truth" probably isn't going to be willing to do that.

Look up the sites that support his assertions, then look up the ones trying to shoot them down. Sure, there are some basic things that he got wrong in his book...but there was a lot that he got right, too...including much of the exceedingly dark history of the Catholic church and the christian religion. Just do the research. Ignorance is curable, but if you're not willing to make the attempt it can easily turn into stupidity.

Well said.

 

[ncdisneyfan]

Look up the sites that support his assertions, then look up the ones trying to shoot them down. Sure, there are some basic things that he got wrong in his book...but there was a lot that he got right, too...including much of the exceedingly dark history of the Catholic church and the christian religion. Just do the research. Ignorance is curable, but if you're not willing to make the attempt it can easily turn into stupidity.

So what IS "fact" in the book, and what is "fiction"?

 

[Anewman]

I dont go watch movies in Church on Sundays.
AND
I dont go to the movies for bible studies.


I did not go watch Passion of the Christ because it is not the type of movie I enjoy. I do expect to go watch DaVinci Code, because it seems like a movie I would enjoy. I am also positive that it will not alter my faith.

 

[LindsayDunn228]

I'm some DISers worst nightmare: I'm a Southern Baptist Christian from Southeast Tennessee...and I plan on seeing the Da Vinci Code I don't think anything they are claiming is truth, and I am going for entertainment. It's like when I watched JFK, I wasn't buying all the conspiracy angles, but it was a very entertaining movie!!

I certainly will NOT tell anyone they are going to hell for seeing this movie and/or reading the book. I actually just picked up a copy this weekend.

 

[tinatark]

So what IS "fact" in the book, and what is "fiction"?

Some facts, some fiction. The premise (IMO) is that some people will be too lazy to figure out which is which, and believe all of it as fact.

Here are some of the sites:

http://www.go.family.org/davinci/content/A000000048.cfm

http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/facts/fm0035.html

There was also a Dateline special a week or so ago - it was very interesting, expecially considering the secular view you get from TV journalists.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7491383/

 

[HomeSweetDisney]

In other words, Tinatark, "ignorance is bliss?" Better those "not strong in their faith" - by which, you mean, able to turn a blind eye and ignore anything that doesn't fit into their pretty little picture of the world - better that they never be exposed to anything that might cause them to think for themselves, rather than according to church doctrine. Is that pretty much what you are saying?

And the DaVinci Code is NOT completely fiction. It is what is generally known as "historical" fiction - stories based on facts, but with some liberties taken with some details. But there are facts there, if you're just willing to not blind yourself in the name of religion and actually see them. 'Course, I'm willing to bet that anybody willing to call the bible "historical truth" probably isn't going to be willing to do that.

Look up the sites that support his assertions, then look up the ones trying to shoot them down. Sure, there are some basic things that he got wrong in his book...but there was a lot that he got right, too...including much of the exceedingly dark history of the Catholic church and the christian religion. Just do the research. Ignorance is curable, but if you're not willing to make the attempt it can easily turn into stupidity.

Well I can't say this very often, but I completely agree with you here

 

[tinatark]

I'm some DISers worst nightmare: I'm a Southern Baptist Christian from Southeast Tennessee...and I plan on seeing the Da Vinci Code I don't think anything they are claiming is truth, and I am going for entertainment. It's like when I watched JFK, I wasn't buying all the conspiracy angles, but it was a very entertaining movie!!

I certainly will NOT tell anyone they are going to hell for seeing this movie and/or reading the book. I actually just picked up a copy this weekend.

Not My nightmare - you're my neighbor! Watch it if you want - I don't think you're going to hell for reading the book or watching the movie.

 

[WonderfulDreamer2]

In other words, Tinatark, "ignorance is bliss?" Better those "not strong in their faith" - by which, you mean, able to turn a blind eye and ignore anything that doesn't fit into their pretty little picture of the world - better that they never be exposed to anything that might cause them to think for themselves, rather than according to church doctrine. Is that pretty much what you are saying?

And the DaVinci Code is NOT completely fiction. It is what is generally known as "historical" fiction - stories based on facts, but with some liberties taken with some details. But there are facts there, if you're just willing to not blind yourself in the name of religion and actually see them. 'Course, I'm willing to bet that anybody willing to call the bible "historical truth" probably isn't going to be willing to do that.

Look up the sites that support his assertions, then look up the ones trying to shoot them down. Sure, there are some basic things that he got wrong in his book...but there was a lot that he got right, too...including much of the exceedingly dark history of the Catholic church and the christian religion. Just do the research. Ignorance is curable, but if you're not willing to make the attempt it can easily turn into stupidity.

Kudo's to you on this post. I don't see eye to eye with you on too many things but this is right on....great post.

 

[declansdad]

That's the problem - if you are not strong in your faith, this book/movie will make you question everything you've ever read/learned/lived!

Heck, I knew National Treasure (thanks for the analogy!) was not real, but the way it was presented was SO believable!

I think DC is much the same, except people who don't "Know" it's fiction will buy into the story as truth - like I've said, I've already seen it in one of our employees, also an acquaintenance is *rethinking everything about church* because of the book.

I'm sorry but if a person hasn't heard that this is a work of fiction by now something is seriously lacking.

eta: a piece of historical fiction.

 

[PixieDust32]

That's the problem - if you are not strong in your faith, this book/movie will make you question everything you've ever read/learned/lived!

Heck, I knew National Treasure (thanks for the analogy!) was not real, but the way it was presented was SO believable!

I think DC is much the same, except people who don't "Know" it's fiction will buy into the story as truth - like I've said, I've already seen it in one of our employees, also an acquaintenance is *rethinking everything about church* because of the book.

Does people go to hell for lying, cheating, having pre marital sex, etc? Or just for reading a book?

 

[tinatark]

I'm sorry but if a person hasn't heard that this is a work of fiction by now something is seriously lacking.

eta: a piece of historical fiction.

Of course most people have heard it is a work of fiction - the problem comes when the lines between truth and fact are so blurred that the whole story is believed as truth!

 

[PixieDust32]

Well, if people doesn't understand the word "Fiction", then they need help.

 

[DawnCt1]

I'm some DISers worst nightmare: I'm a Southern Baptist Christian from Southeast Tennessee...and I plan on seeing the Da Vinci Code I don't think anything they are claiming is truth, and I am going for entertainment. It's like when I watched JFK, I wasn't buying all the conspiracy angles, but it was a very entertaining movie!!

I certainly will NOT tell anyone they are going to hell for seeing this movie and/or reading the book. I actually just picked up a copy this weekend.

Let me suggest that you save your money. I read the book, which I thought was just okay. Last night we went to see the movie, which was barely okay. Even for DH, who didn't read the book, it was predictable. Frankly, it was Tom Hank's worst performance...ever, and I think he is a good actor and enjoy most of the movies that he is in. Lots of sub titles; not a problem, and a lot of the movie takes place in the dark. I would have been better served seeing the Sentinel for the second time.