Dateline NBC tonight is about my colleague killed by his wife

Deb in IA

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Wednesday, Aug. 22 at 10 p.m./9 C
A dean of medicine at the University of Iowa dies after a stab wound to the heart. His wife gets charged with first-degree murder but pleads not guilty, claiming it was an accident. Dennis Murphy reports on this tale of a marriage turned murder trial.

I knew Dr. Richard Nelson well. He was in my division in pediatrics, and also specialized in children with disabilities. We taught the same class for medical students, and I wrote a chapter in one of his textbooks. We saw patients in the same clinic regularly until his promotion to the Dean's Office.

I also knew his wife. We'd been to their house in the past for departmental social activities.

This was all quite a shock when this happened. I remember many of us not being able to comprehend this whole mess. The trial ended up on Court TV, and now will be on Dateline NBC tonight.

It just goes to show you how little we know about people we see every day at work.

Anyway, the case is on Dateline NBC tonight, if you are interested.
 
Deb, that has to be a shock to everyone. Especially those of you who worked close with him. I'll be watching tonight.
 
kimmie, do you remember this case? It got a LOT of local publicity when it happened. The trial was in Cedar Rapids.
 
Absolutely no disrepect intended, but how do you accidentally fatally stab someone?
 

Well, Maleficent, at various points in the case, Mrs. Nelson claimed:
1. Self defense. He was supposedly "lunging" at her.
2. Accident. She claimed that she was merely holding the knife in front of her, and he came around a corner and "ran into it".
 
Thanks Deb, I think I will record it now. We had a similar case in Ct. years ago. Dr. Russell Manfredi killed his wife in a fit of rage about 21 years ago. He was one of the residents with DH. He had completed his fellowship,etc and was in his first year of cardiology practice when the murder occurred. I had met both of them but didn't know them very well.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=9A0DEFD61E39F934A15753C1A960948260

DH's sister's DH "found" himself on the jury which seemed highly inappropriate given the nature of the situation; discussed at family dinners, etc. He insisted he disclosed it. He didn't. They weren't happy when it was reported to the defense attorneys and the DA. The defendant and the state BOTH deserve a fair trial.
 
kimmie, do you remember this case? It got a LOT of local publicity when it happened. The trial was in Cedar Rapids.

Yes, it was big headlines for awhile. It will be interesting to see what kind of spin Dateline puts on it tonight. Although for a prime time news show, I think Dateline does a good job at being impartial.
 
I hadn't heard about Dr. Manfredi. What was the outcome of the trial?
 
I hadn't heard about Dr. Manfredi. What was the outcome of the trial?

He was convicted of manslaughter and received the maximum sentence of 20 years. He served 80% of it. He was "held at a higher standard because he was a physician" according to jury members that were polled. There was a huge article in the Hartford Courant magazine around that time that described her as very belittling, demeaning, etc to her husband. DH said that she would call the ER all the time when he was on call and demand that she would come home and discipline their boys. He was very quiet, chubby, disheveled. He always looked tired on the few occasions that I saw him. I met her once at a hospital picnic. There were a group of us standing around. For some reason the subject of cleaning toilets came up. I recall her saying in a very demeaning tone, "I would NEVER clean toilets, that's Russ's job". It happened the night before they were supposed to leave for Disneyland for a cardiology conference! The story was that they were having an intimate moment in the family room and one of the boys "caught" them. She flew into a rage and started to scream at the kid and was going to hit him and chased him upstairs. Russ tried to restrain her and she broke his nose. He picked up a bat in the bedroom and that was that.
He said that he didn't think he would actually get away with the murder but he didn't want his boys to see her. He was on suicide watch for most of the trial. Of course, no matter what she was like, there was no excuse for the murder and despite what some articles said, he too had a bad temper.

I know one of the guards at Somer's prison where he served his time. He was a model prisoner. Always polite. When he was finally released after serving most of his time, he sought out this particular guard who really hadn't had any interaction with him since the early days of his incarceration and told her (the guard is a her) "Thank you for treating me so nicely. I have always appreciated it". She said that in all of her years of working in the prison, she has never been thanked like that. I don't know if he is working in science or not. I don't think he can ever get his medical license back.
 
2. Accident. She claimed that she was merely holding the knife in front of her, and he came around a corner and "ran into it".

Well, I'm sure that happens all the time. If I saw someone holding a knife out at me, I might just run really fast at it. I am sorry that this happened to someone you knew. I will have to watch it tonight.
 
Wow, quite a story, Dawn. Was Mrs. Manfredi a stay-at-home mom? If so, I can see no excuse for her not to clean toilets.

It certainly sounds like she was a world-class bee-ach, but he's probably no angel either. Even if she broke his nose, bashing her in the head with a baseball bat is a big NO-NO. Not to mention dropping her off a second story balcony, and staging it to look like a car accident . . .

What happened to their children?
 
Wow, quite a story, Dawn. Was Mrs. Manfredi a stay-at-home mom? If so, I can see no excuse for her not to clean toilets.

It certainly sounds like she was a world-class bee-ach, but he's probably no angel either. Even if she broke his nose, bashing her in the head with a baseball bat is a big NO-NO.

What happened to their children?

She was a full time stay at home mom. And you are right, no excuse for not cleaning the toilets. I clean the toilets but I couldn't imagine DH telling a group of anyone, "That's Dawn's job". It was said in a demeaning way, no matter who cleans the toilets. She was known as the B-word and I thought she was stuck up from that first encounter. I don't think he ever saw the children again. Her family took control of the children and I recall while waiting for the trial to unfold, that he petitioned the courts many times to have contact but it was blocked by her family and they moved them back to Pennsylvania where they all were from. It was such an interesting case, particularly since we knew the parties that it got talked about a lot...by everyone. It dominated the front page of the Courant for weeks. That is why when we heard the DH's BIL was on the jury that he wasn't honest in disclosing the relationship; same hospital, same internship, same residency at the same time, etc. I called both the DA and the defense attorneys and then I called my SIL to tell her because they were blaming my MIL. I said; "I am not sorry I called, I am sorry that I had to be the one to call. Everyone deserves a fair trial, the state, which is paid for by the taxpayers and the defense and a mistrial does not serve justice"
Both the state and the defense wanted him off of the jury. The defendent himself wanted him off of the jury. He apparently wanted a jury with no preconceived notion of what he was like for good or for ill. I wish there was a book written about the case.
 
That's a strange sounding case and these kinds of things always are surreal for anyone who knows the parties. My fifth grade science teacher killed is wife, two sons and himself a couple of years ago (and 30+ years after I had him as a teacher), which was really freaky. No mystery there, but still.
 
That's a strange sounding case and these kinds of things always are surreal for anyone who knows the parties. My fifth grade science teacher killed is wife, two sons and himself a couple of years ago (and 30+ years after I had him as a teacher), which was really freaky. No mystery there, but still.

It is unsettling. You always tend to think it happens to "other people". I remember waking up to the news on the radio at around 7 am and hearing that she was found in her underwear and a night shirt, crashed into a telephone poll on Sheep's Hill Rd in West Hartford, a victim of a car accident. My mother called me and said, "gee, that's sounds odd, I will bet he killed her". Now my mother didn't know him, nor her, nor did she ever hear a word about them. DH thought the idea was ridiculous. He just couldn't imagine it. My mom always read crime novels. ;)
 
Yup. Same here with the Nelson case.


If anyone would have told me these people ended up doing what they did, both in terms of the killing and the events that led up to it, I would have said "NO WAY!!!" I would NEVER have picked this couple to have ended up the way they did.
 
I watch Court TV everyday and this more common than not. Accidentally...sounds like a defense attorney's attempt to get her off with less time more than the truth.
 
Robin, I think this case was originally broadcast on Court TV, but since I don't have cable, I didn't see it.

I'm interested in seeing how Dateline will present this.


But what is more interesting to me is that there has been ZERO local publicity for this program. Especially since it was really big news when it happened here.
 
You NEVER know what goes on behind closed doors in someone's house. Once when the kids were little, DH and the kids had to be evacuated from the house over a bunch of back yard fences; the police were clearing out all the houses around us. It seems our across the street neighbor was theatening her husband with a gun.

A couple of years later, the police came to the house next door...same thing...wife threatening husband with gun.

Sort of hard to chit-chat with the neighbors once you've seen them being put in the police car in cuffs.

But it makes me so sad when I think about the children in these houses....what is going on that we don't know about?
 
Here's Dennis Murphy's blog on this story:

Looking at a heartland couple divided Posted: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:29 AM by Dateline Editor
Categories: Crime, From The Field
By Dennis Murphy, Dateline Correspondent

You know the painting "American Gothic." A couple -- a farmer and his wife, at least she seems to be his wife, but maybe a spinster daughter, apparently fresh from sucking lemons -- stares right at you the viewer with a pitchfork between them. To me, it's always been the American "Mona Lisa." Ambiguous. As with the lady's smile, what's going on here between this man and woman from the heartland?

I mention it only because I'm coming in from the airport in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, and I wasn't on the ground long before I learned that the city was home to Grant Wood, the painter of "American Gothic". A lightning refresher art course from Wikipedia tells me that Wood's sister Nan posed as the farm woman and his dentist posed as the man. (By the way, knowing that the farmer in "American Gothic" was, in fact, portrayed by Grant Wood's dentist won a contestant on "Who Wants to be a Millionaire" a million bucks.)

But I digress.

It's the ambiguity of the story in the painting -- that sharp pitch fork between the Iowa pair -- that echoes a bit with the current American gothic story we're working on in the Cedar Rapids-Iowa City corridor.

The man was Dr. Richard Nelson, a medical college executive dean, a highly regarded pediatrician, and the woman in question is Phyllis, his wife of over 30 years. What came between them was a four-inch kitchen paring knife. Phyllis was holding it when it punctured Dr. Nelson's heart, killing him. Of course, there'd been much more between the very married couple than a paring knife. There'd been his lover. The other woman.

Was it murder, as the state of Iowa charged?

Or was it an accident, as Phyllis, the wife, explained it?

It all depended on how you looked at the couple. How you read the picture. We're left without a reliable narrator.

Grant Wood, I suspect, would have understood.

Charlie Neibergall / AP file

His classic painting became, I take it, a tug of war between his detractors and champions. There was a local school of thought in Cedar Rapids about 1930 when he painted it, that the smug artist, trained in the decadent salons of Paris as a young man, was making fun of his fellow Midwesterners, satirizing rubes with sour, pursed lips and short horizons. Wood, of course, denied that interpretation, though legend has it that a farm wife tried to bite his ear off because she was so angry with his depiction of farm people.

Then, as the Depression settled over the country, the painting was reassessed again, and now Grant Wood's farm couple seemed to be the very emblem of American pioneer resolve in times of adversity. You could see in the farmland couple what you wanted to see.

"American Gothic," by the way, is not hanging in Cedar Rapids. It's at the Art Institute of Chicago. To my middlebrow sensibility it's a great, great painting.

P.S. The courteous bailiffs at the Cedar Rapids courthouse, built intriguingly on a narrow island in the Cedar River, make an excellent pot of coffee -- but you have to be a juror or privileged guest to try it. Thank you.

A special hour-long Dateline on the case of Richard and Phyllis Nelson will air tonight, Wednesday, Aug. 22 at 10 p.m. ET/9 Central.
 













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