Date-specific Multi-Day tickets coming soon. DVC impact?

[CarolMN]

From the Orlando Sentinel:

Disney is also planning to sell date-specific one-day and multi-day tickets with prices posted in advance later this year as part of its strategy to help even out crowds. More details were not immediately available.

“Given the small percentage of guests that purchase a one-day ticket at Walt Disney World, extending pre-published, date-specific pricing to multi-day tickets will further advance our efforts to spread attendance throughout the year and ensure all guests have a magical experience no matter when they visit,” Finger’s statement said.

Will this change how you use your DVC?

Do you think this means a "point reallocation" (between seasons) is also in the works?

 

[Ben E N]

I don't think that this will greatly impact the point allocation. Ticket prices differences are used to drive traffic to some dates and away from others. Disney already does this with hotel rates, dining discounts, etc. This is just the next step. DVC point allocation seems to be more reactive, though, based on when people are interested in going and what views they desire. If any changes are made, I bet it adds the cost to fall reservations and takes them away from summer. Winter break bookings could also get a bit more expensive.

 

[bwvBound]

Will this change how you use your DVC?

I see more Aulani ... and less WDW/DL ... in our future use of DVC. Perhaps even more cruising as long as DCL continues to offer getaway weekend trips from the port of San Diego.

 

[quandrea]

I see more Aulani ... and less WDW/DL ... in our future use of DVC. Perhaps even more cruising as long as DCL continues to offer getaway weekend trips from the port of San Diego.

Interesting....what about high Air costs? That sounds like a great plan for us too, but Air costs are high.

 

[bwvBound]

Interesting....what about high Air costs? That sounds like a great plan for us too, but Air costs are high.

We live in San Diego ... so cruising from the home port is easy. Flights between Oahu and various SoCal airports are sometimes on par with flying to MCO.

 

[DenLo]

I don't think the date specific tickets will affect DVC as Disney is controlling the crowds to the parks. Perhaps I am wrong but I think it will be those dates that often have to use the park closure procedures, like Christmas and New Years, Fourth of July. Maybe they won't have to use those procedures if less people come to the parks.

 

[DebbieB]

From the Orlando Sentinel:

Disney is also planning to sell date-specific one-day and multi-day tickets with prices posted in advance later this year as part of its strategy to help even out crowds. More details were not immediately available.

“Given the small percentage of guests that purchase a one-day ticket at Walt Disney World, extending pre-published, date-specific pricing to multi-day tickets will further advance our efforts to spread attendance throughout the year and ensure all guests have a magical experience no matter when they visit,” Finger’s statement said.

Will this change how you use your DVC?

Do you think this means a "point reallocation" (between seasons) is also in the works?

I always have an AP, so no. It wouldn't change when I would go. I really don't think it's a great plan, most people plan their vacations based on when they can go, not when the tickets are cheaper.

 

[Matty B13]

If you have kids and can only go during vacation weeks, you might get priced out of WDW. Not sure if this is the best plan for Disney though since a majority of it's customers are parents with little kids, and once that childhood bond is broken or diverted some where else they might not get it back.

 

[kboo]

I don't think the date specific tickets will affect DVC as Disney is controlling the crowds to the parks. Perhaps I am wrong but I think it will be those dates that often have to use the park closure procedures, like Christmas and New Years, Fourth of July. Maybe they won't have to use those procedures if less people come to the parks.

I agree - I think it looks bad for business to close a park, even partially - like Disney "can't handle" the crowds. This is a gentler way to manage demand without having a slight PR blip. It doesn't seem very magical to turn away people who want to experience the magic on a special day.

If you have kids and can only go during vacation weeks, you might get priced out of WDW. Not sure if this is the best plan for Disney though since a majority of it's customers are parents with little kids, and once that childhood bond is broken or diverted some where else they might not get it back.

I bet the price differential is only 5-20$ per day - and probably goes lower the more days you buy on your ticket. For a family that does the "once or twice in a lifetime/childhood" trip, I don't think that's going to deter them from coming to WDW altogether; it may just make them take a shorter trip, or spend one less day in the parks. Maybe the shorter trip whets their appetite for Disney because "there are all these things we didn't get to see/do!!"

It's funny, our local 24/7 news show (NY1) was talking about Disney ticket price increases today. One of the women commentators was like, "but Disney is a rite of passage!!!" and Pat Kiernan, one of the longtime anchors, was like, "They're not a public service; they're a business!"

 

[tjkraz]

If you have kids and can only go during vacation weeks, you might get priced out of WDW. Not sure if this is the best plan for Disney though since a majority of it's customers are parents with little kids, and once that childhood bond is broken or diverted some where else they might not get it back.

But there have always been new children and families to fill the void. Even more so going forward with Star Wars and Marvel under the Disney banner.

The sticker shock is getting tough for our family to swallow. But Disney keeps raising prices and still reporting record-setting attendance. As long as they're replacing my family with someone else, I don't expect them to change.

 

[LAX]

Are these date specific tickets going to be at fixed prices? Meaning it won't fluctuate based on demands. I wonder what prices are going to look like and if this would make APs more attractive to those planning to go at peak (most expensive) times.

LAX

 

[Chuck S]

I would guess the date specific tickets will be marketed similar to the Gold AP. Multi-Day tickets with black-out dates for about 3 weeks or so per year. If you don't want the black out dates, you pay extra. Probably not a lot on impact on DVC point charts, unless people really rebel against the higher prices for holidays, but that would also affect cash resorts, too. They'd need to lower their prices during the holidays.

But I think enough folks will want to travel during the blackout dates that we won't see any significant changes.

 

[hakepb]

Based on single ticket blackouts
These are the peak dates:
blockout dates: February 16-19; March 17-31; April 1-8, May 5, 6, 12, 13, 19, 20, 25-31; June 25 - July 4, 2018.

And these are the mid-tier dates:
February 3, 4, 10, 11, 16-25; March 9-31; April 1-22, 28, 29; May 4-31; June 1 - August 26; September 1-3, 7-9, 14-16, 21-23, 28-30, 2018.

Currently the cheapest tickets are during DVC peak seasons Oct-Jan. Of multi-day pricing tiers remain the same, I would expect DVC peak periods to be even more difficult to book.

 

[Chuck S]

Yeah, but for people that want to buy multiple day tickets online, they really would need to come up with an easier to understand system, especially for DVC where you may take a day or two off from the parks during you stay and not have them all be consecutive.

 

[Dean Marino]

This actually gets easy....

Wait, See, and dump DVC if it no longer works. Sell points for $0.25 each, force ROFR.

Seriously - WDW sort of engineered this against WDW . Once we hit "break even" - the points can be dumped, for close to zero dollars.

Now - you DID calculate "break even" vs room discounts over the years..... right?

 

[Deb & Bill]

This actually gets easy....

Wait, See, and dump DVC if it no longer works. Sell points for $0.25 each, force ROFR.

Seriously - WDW sort of engineered this against WDW . Once we hit "break even" - the points can be dumped, for close to zero dollars.

Now - you DID calculate "break even" vs room discounts over the years..... right?

If you are going to dump it, might as well make something (at least the commission) in the dump. Sell it for $10 a point.

 

[BWV Dreamin]

From the Orlando Sentinel:

Disney is also planning to sell date-specific one-day and multi-day tickets with prices posted in advance later this year as part of its strategy to help even out crowds. More details were not immediately available.

“Given the small percentage of guests that purchase a one-day ticket at Walt Disney World, extending pre-published, date-specific pricing to multi-day tickets will further advance our efforts to spread attendance throughout the year and ensure all guests have a magical experience no matter when they visit,” Finger’s statement said.

Will this change how you use your DVC?

Do you think this means a "point reallocation" (between seasons) is also in the works?

I’m a little confused. I am considering purchasing a one day ticket to use along with my non-expiring tickets so as to extend the use of my NE tickets since they are no longer sold. Does this article mean there will be no more one day tickets? Or will they oncrease the price even more?

 

[Ben E N]

I’m a little confused. I am considering purchasing a one day ticket to use along with my non-expiring tickets so as to extend the use of my NE tickets since they are no longer sold. Does this article mean there will be no more one day tickets? Or will they oncrease the price even more?

One day tickets have already increased about 3-5 dollars each. Prices are already posted. They are still working on pricing multi day tickets.

 

[BWV Dreamin]

One day tickets have already increased about 3-5 dollars each. Prices are already posted. They are still working on pricing multi day tickets.

Ok, so any further changes will just effect multi day tickets?

 

[Ben E N]

Ok, so any further changes will just effect multi day tickets?

As far as I know, yes. Of course, they can change whatever they want, whenever they want.