DAS Question

SarahC97

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Hi all! I have a DAS question. I'm traveling with an adult in September with severe rheumatoid arthritis. She has a lot of difficulty standing or sitting for long periods -- it basically causes her joints to become incredibly stiff and painful. She does best if she's able to keep moving. I have assumed that we wouldn't have difficulty getting a DAS pass for her since her disability can't be accommodated with a wheelchair, but I have had several people on other discussion boards tell me that Disney gives DAS primarily to children with autism. I'm certainly not trying to debate who should get DAS over another, I'm just trying to know what expectations to set for my friend - can she expect to be granted DAS or will we need to plan for her to go without?

Thanks!
 
Based on what I've seen, she most likely won't be given a DAS, as this is considered a mobility issue, but it can't hurt to ask.

Also, there is a misconception that the DAS is primarily for autism or other cognitive/developmental issues, but there are many, many other reasons.
 
Based on what I've seen, she most likely won't be given a DAS, as this is considered a mobility issue, but it can't hurt to ask.

Also, there is a misconception that the DAS is primarily for autism or other cognitive/developmental issues, but there are many, many other reasons.

Thank you for the information! We'll certainly ask, I'm just trying to get a good touring plan made so it helps to know what to expect! I'll figure out a way so she doesn't have to stand too much. :)
 
I can't speak to the liklihood of whether your friend can get a DAS or not, as I get a DAS for other reasons. However, I do have RA and am well-acquainted with stiffness and pain that can develop if joints stay still for too long {and "too long" doesn't have to be that long clock-wise). The long distances walked at Disney also create their own problems for me because my joints just dont like all that walking, and for me it also flares up other issues.

Part of my solution to these problems is that I use an ECV at the parks [I do not need one at home]. I rent from an outside vendor so I have it available to and from the resort as well as at the resort if needed.

I have written elsewhere on the Dis about the independence an ECV gives me. Basically, it lets me set the pace, adapt, and enjoy the day with minimal discomfort.

Since riding too long or walking too long are both problems, what I do is typically drive the ECV to an area [e.g. tomorrowland] and park it. Then walk to the attractions in the immediate area. Then back to the ECV and move to the next area. If I am having a bad stretch, I can use the ECV into each accessible attraction - the nice thing with that is I can stop, stand up and move around, then get back down and ride it... the mixing up helps just enough. If an attraction line is insanely long, we skip it and try to come back later when it is shorter. We use our Fastpass selections for the attractions we REALLY do not want to miss, and take advantage of extra magic hours and staying late in the parks. Also, we have at least a basic plan for touring the park and try to do rides that are close to each other instead of zig zagging all across the place (and thus walking even more). We don't always stick with the plan, but we at least start out with it ;-) The ECV also gives a place to rest when the rest of my part go off on a ride I can't go on [I don't do most roller coasters as they are too jarring].

Also, we take advantage of special events like MNSSHP and MVMCP. We use them primarily to ride rides with next to no wait time, to be in the park when it is dark (no sun ! yeah !!), and for the parade and fireworks. For MNSSHP we will also do some trick or treating, but don't dress in costume. One our next trip in December, the only time we are going to the parks is once to MK for MVMCP and once to Typhoon lagoon. The rest of the trip is enjoying the resorts and a Disney Cruise.

Now for me, I also do get a DAS, for other reasons, but to be honest at most will generally only use it two or three times in a day. Some days it won't even get used at all.

SW

ETA: the other nice thing with the ECV is if I need to be walking, my sister can always ride it for a bit ;-) Just make sure any prospective drivers are adults and have practiced a bit with it so they have an inkling of how to use it safely. In a line, I will sometimes get off it and just do some "walking in place" for a bit, then once the lines has moved several feet, get back on and move it forward.s Also, while seated on the ECV, there is a suprising amount of exercise one can do that will keep most joints fairly happy. I found a couple good videos about doing exercises while seated (including one for Tai Chi while seated on an airplane) and have found doing some of them from time to time on the ECV [or at work, or on the bus, or... etc etc] is very helpful.
 

They won't issue a DAS for " she's old and it hurts to stand". That's like, what, 85% of the Park at any given time?

They will, however, gladly accommodate a guest who has rented an ECV/wheelchair and can transfer to the rides with a little assistance. :) Create a low-intensity touring plan and give her enough time to take walks, take breaks, whatever. Just no Rope Drop to Closing, go-go-go-go-faster style of touring! ;)
 
I cannot say for sure what you will be told at GR, but I would plan for touring without a DAS.

I second the suggestion about alternating standing and sitting. There are lot of things at Disney that a DAS will not help with - buses, trams, the parking lot, fireworks, night time shows, restaurants, quick service lines, any attractions that are shows, and any FP queues (which is where the DAS will direct you after waiting for your return time) that are slow or long. It is not uncommon to get stuck in a FP line that takes 20-30 minutes, which is mostly standing in one place while waiting.

I have travelled with people that use a wheelchair part of the time. Sometimes she rode in it, sometimes she pushed it empty like a walker, and sometimes someone else pushed it.

I cannot tell you what the best thing for your party is, but I would plan (even if you have the DAS) for lots of standing and waiting in one place.
 
I agree, plan on not getting a DAS. They will most likely say your friend can get an ECV or wheelchair and use it to alternate sitting and moving. I know it isn't always the preferred accommodation, but it is most common.
 
I would really plane on not getting a dAS as other have said as she really dose have a mobility problem I would look at getting her a roller where she can push it and sit when needed. another thing to remember is Disney is taking a way benches and she may not find a place to sit if she needs to rest.

a few other things.

if she is with someone have them stand behind her and have her stand a little bit behind the people infant of her so that if the line stops she can still move around some ( I know someone that even walking in place helps). This is not only good for ride lines but also, waiting for food, bus lines, tram lines.

I would get a mobility device either a roller or wheel chair. so that for parades you can use the handicap viewing area, she can set her roller, wheel chair in her spot then walk around ( close to it of course) this way she will not be sitting of standing in one place. if the parade is too long for her to sit then have her stand behind and at some of the paces ( I am thinking of the one infant of the castle) there is some room to walk around. ( I hope this made since)
 
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Hi all! I have a DAS question. I'm traveling with an adult in September with severe rheumatoid arthritis. She has a lot of difficulty standing or sitting for long periods -- it basically causes her joints to become incredibly stiff and painful. She does best if she's able to keep moving. I have assumed that we wouldn't have difficulty getting a DAS pass for her since her disability can't be accommodated with a wheelchair, but I have had several people on other discussion boards tell me that Disney gives DAS primarily to children with autism. I'm certainly not trying to debate who should get DAS over another, I'm just trying to know what expectations to set for my friend - can she expect to be granted DAS or will we need to plan for her to go without?

Thanks!

How would being someplace other than the standby queue help her? If being out of the queue means she is sitting someplace else, no, the DAS will not be given. That's definitely a mobility issue. It's solved by using a mobility device. IF it's too long of a walk through the standby queue, then once again, no DAS, as a mobility device helps with that as well.
 
as a fellow (younger) adult with RA I can assure you she does NOT qualify for a DAS . mobility and stamina related issues ARE NOT covered. the lines rarely stop dead for more than a few minutes at time. the wheelchair can be used to steady her in lines when she is not sitting in it. she can use a good touring plan and take frequent breaks.
 
How would being someplace other than the standby queue help her? If being out of the queue means she is sitting someplace else, no, the DAS will not be given.


I don't think the OPs friend wants to sit and wait somewhere else. I think she wants to walk around while she waits.


Her friend sounds a lot like my dad. He was in wreck a couple years ago and broke his back in multiple places. He couldn't stand or sit in the same spot for more than a few minutes. He had to constantly keep moving. We could go to the zoo and walk around all day, but we couldn't stop at an exhibit and watch an animal for any length of time because he needed to keep moving. He wasn't allowed to ride in car more than about 15 minutes per his dr.

Based on my experience with him, I'd say if the queue was continually moving or moving every few minutes or so, the line would probably not be a problem. But if you have to stay still in the same spot for an extended period, that is where the issue would come in. Sitting in a wheel chair longer than a few minutes would be a problem as well. Sitting was actually the worst thing for my dad.

It really just depends on the amount of time the OPs friend can wait before needing to move. My dad was between 5-15 minutes, 30 was about his max in one spot, but that was pushing it and very painful. It's definitely going to be hard to work around this issue because you can't sit or stand in one place for long meals or shows or transportation either. I think my dad could have handled the queues because they maybe an hour long but it isn't one hour in the same spot. It's wait 5 minutes, move up some, wait 5 minutes, move up, etc.
 
But you can't push the wheel chair if you are stuck standing still which is the whole issue.

This is like the opposite of a mobility issue. It's not an - I can't move. It's an - I have to move constantly.

I really think the best bet is looking into exercises that can be done in place to allow you to keep moving.

Honestly, I don't see it being a huge issue anyway in line. You rarely get stuck standing in one place while you wait for long periods. It's lots of short bursts of standing mixed in with short bursts of moving. And I feel like it would probably be possible to pace back and forth to some extent as long as you could get over feeling a bit silly. I would think meals and shows will be where the bigger issues come in as you would need to stay still for long periods for those.
 
But you can't push the wheel chair if you are stuck standing still which is the whole issue.

This is like the opposite of a mobility issue. It's not an - I can't move. It's an - I have to move constantly.
Correct. With the wheelchair, she has the option to sit when needed, and stand/walk when needed.

But your suggestion to exercise in place is excellent!
 
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This is like the opposite of a mobility issue. It's not an - I can't move. It's an - I have to move constantly.

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this is why having someone with her stand behind her so that she has room to more when the line is stoped. ( and even the FP line can stop, one time when I was in line for BTMRR they were loading another car and the line stoped for a good 25 minutes, I was in the FP line and had to leave because of it when I asked what happened I was told they had a issue with loading another train and was given a reaid to go again latter.

So just like others have said this is a mobility problem just not the normal kind. This same ( or very similar) question comes up ever few months.

I think one of the biggest problems is that the DAS is called the Disability access pass. So people go I have a Disability so I need this pass, if Disney had not used the word Disability in the pass I do not think people would think that since they have a Disability then they need it. I do know quiet a few people that just need a wheel chair and this accommodate them just fine yet they inset on getting a DAS and are quiet upset when not given one.
 
Thanks for the input everyone, I understand the issue clearer now. I'll build a touring plan for her that tries to limit wait time.

For the record, my friend is only 39. It's not just an "I'm old and everything hurts issue." I understand what you're all saying, but I really don't think I can get her to rent an ECV. I've tried to bring up the topic and she is very resistant. She tries to be very active in order to keep her mobility up -- I just don't think she's to the point yet where she will take that option. But it's nice to walk into the situation and know what to expect so we can plan ahead. Thanks again!
 
Thanks for the input everyone, I understand the issue clearer now. I'll build a touring plan for her that tries to limit wait time.

For the record, my friend is only 39. It's not just an "I'm old and everything hurts issue." I understand what you're all saying, but I really don't think I can get her to rent an ECV. I've tried to bring up the topic and she is very resistant. She tries to be very active in order to keep her mobility up -- I just don't think she's to the point yet where she will take that option. But it's nice to walk into the situation and know what to expect so we can plan ahead. Thanks again!

What is nice is that she would still have the option to rent a EVC or a wheelchair at the parks if after a day or two she feels like it is too much for her. My mom (older, but very stubborn) gave me a hard time the first time also so we rented it for a few hours the first time just so she could try it out and it ended up making the trip better for her.

Still go and talk about getting the DAS and see what they say since no one on the boards can give you a definite yes or no. Have a great trip!
 
Will a person with Crohn's be granted a DAS?
The DAS really is not if you have XYZ DX then you get a DAS and if you have ABC then you do not get a DAS.if you feel you need a DAS then You will need to go to GR and explain why waiting you need to be able to wait out Sid then line and how it will help.

two people with the same DX could need two very different things I know 2 people with ASD one is fine in lines ( they did 2 hours for FOP) as long as they have some type of smart phone or tablet the other person can hardly handle the 10 minutes in a FP lined after 2 hours has to leave the park all together. so same DX very different things they need, ( and yes I know you meed one person with ASD you have just meet one person with ASD)
 











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