DAS and Triceratop spin in AK

[ArielRae]

Can you use DAS for Triceratop Spin in Animal Kingdom? If so what is the procedure as it has no FP? Thanks

 

[Toffeewoffy]

As far as I'm aware, yes you can. However, whether there's an alternative way to get to the front when your return time is up I don't know. If there isn't, then I don't know how you'd bypass the queue.

It's so long since we rode TS that I can't remember whether we used the GAC (which we had at the time) or not.

If in doubt, as the CM at the front of the queue.

 

[Maggie'sMom]

As far as I'm aware, yes you can. However, whether there's an alternative way to get to the front when your return time is up I don't know. If there isn't, then I don't know how you'd bypass the queue.

It's so long since we rode TS that I can't remember whether we used the GAC (which we had at the time) or not.

If in doubt, as the CM at the front of the queue.

Triceratop Spin does not have a FP, therefore the DAS cannot be used. The DAS can only be used at attractions which have FP.

That being said, I don't know that I've ever seen a wait of more than 10-15 minutes for this ride.

 

[Michael2013]

I didn't realize that DAS can only be used on attractions with FP, why is that? A person with a disability or that needs an accommodation still has a disability whether Disney has made the ride FP or not.

 

[aaarcher86]

I didn't realize that DAS can only be used on attractions with FP, why is that? A person with a disability or that needs an accommodation still has a disability whether Disney has made the ride FP or not.

Because the accommodation is meant to offer an equal (as equal is can be) experience of a non disabled guest. If there is not a way for a non disabled guest to bypass the line, offering it to a disabled guest would be preferential treatment.

I'm not sure what happened with these rides when the GAC was in use, but if it involved sending people to the exit to bypass the line that would be considered a negative impact on the ride.

 

[wdw4rfam]

We did use a GAC on T. Spin a couple years ago during spring break. They did take us through the exit. Same applied to pirates and tea cups at MK. Now both of them had short lines this year, so I didn't even try with DAS.

 

[Michael2013]

Because the accommodation is meant to offer an equal (as equal is can be) experience of a non disabled guest. If there is not a way for a non disabled guest to bypass the line, offering it to a disabled guest would be preferential treatment. I'm not sure what happened with these rides when the GAC was in use, but if it involved sending people to the exit to bypass the line that would be considered a negative impact on the ride.

Then I have a misconception of DAS. I thought DAS was meant to basically hold your place in line (if the line is 60 minutes then you get a return time approx 60 min later) so you aren't technically bypassing the line, you are just not having to wait in the line because of medical reasons. The only "preferential" is you are not having to stand in the line. And if I can't stand in the line for Splash Mountain, then doesn't it reason that I can't stand in line for a non FP ride?

I am not trying to be argumentative about this, I am new to the whole thing and trying to understand.

 

[aaarcher86]

Then I have a misconception of DAS. I thought DAS was meant to basically hold your place in line (if the line is 60 minutes then you get a return time approx 60 min later) so you aren't technically bypassing the line, you are just not having to wait in the line because of medical reasons. The only "preferential" is you are not having to stand in the line. And if I can't stand in the line for Splash Mountain, then doesn't it reason that I can't stand in line for a non FP ride? I am not trying to be argumentative about this, I am new to the whole thing and trying to understand.

That's how it works, but that isn't it's purpose. The PURPOSE of the DAS is to level the playing field for disabled guests. Since you're able to do other things while waiting with your virtual time spot it needs to be offered to everyone in some fashion (FP+). For example, while waiting for a TSMM return time using the DAS we were able to eat lunch and draw a character in animation studio - something someone in line can't do unless they utilize their option to get a FP. But regardless, if there is no FP line for you to go through upon return, where would you suggest everyone go when they return? The exit apparently wasn't a good operational option.

I get your confusion, obviously the disability doesn't go away if FP does. It's unfortunately just something you'll have to figure out. We did TS a few weeks ago and the wait was whatever the length of the time the dinosaurs are moving is - maybe 6 minutes? We don't get into character lines without FP that aren't short. Just is what it is. Similar to rides that require a WC transfer - if you can't transfer you can't ride. Nothing is perfect systematically.

 

[SueM in MN]

Triceraptop Spin seldom has more than a few minutes wait. In the case of a 10-15 minute wait, it really doesn't matter whether there is Fastpass or not - you can just enter the regular line.
That WAS how the old Guest Assistance Card was was generally used and supposed to work. For waits less 15 minutes or less.

I didn't realize that DAS can only be used on attractions with FP, why is that? A person with a disability or that needs an accommodation still has a disability whether Disney has made the ride FP or not.

the Fastpass Return line is the entrance that is used for DAS Return. In general, there is no CM available to have guests enter thru the exit.

Most attractions at WDW do have Fastpass, so you could use DAS there.
The attractions that don't have Fastpass Plus yet usually don't have long waits.
Triceraptop Spin is normally one with a short (15 min or less), so you should not need to use DAS there.

We did use a GAC on T. Spin a couple years ago during spring break. They did take us through the exit. Same applied to pirates and tea cups at MK. Now both of them had short lines this year, so I didn't even try with DAS.

Triceraptop Spin line was
Triceraptop Spin did not have a wheelchair accessible line at first, so guests using wheelchairs were brought in thru the exit. In the last, probably 4-5 years, we have taken our daughter's wheelchair thru the regular line to the point of just before the spots are assigned.
Teacups still does not have an accessible line, so there is one specific exit to enter thru. We have always waited there for several ride rotations.

Pirates did not use the exit for an alternate entry at WDW because the exit is down one floor and in a different building than the boarding area. There was an alternate way that was sometimes used with GAC, but since it involved going backstage accompanied by a CM, it was not always available.
Pirates now has Fastpass Plus, so the DAS entrance would be the Fastpass line.

 

[TheRustyScupper]

I didn't realize that DAS can only be used on attractions with FP, why is that? A person with a disability or that needs an accommodation still has a disability whether Disney has made the ride FP or not.

1) DAS is only to meant allow ACCESS, not EXCESS.
2) The ADA does not even grant preferential treatment, simply equal or near equal access.
3) Why should anyone be allowed to bypass anyone else?

 

[ElliePixie]

Yes, you can use DAS for Triceratops Spin. I used mine with no issues. We approached the CM that's letting people in for the next ride at the rope, there they let people go one way but there is an entrance for wheelchairs on the opposite side. They gave us a return time once, another time the wait was 10 mins so they let us straight thru the wheelchair entrance even though we didn't have a wheelchair.
In my experience, we never had a problem getting a return time at attractions that don't have FP like Triceratops Spin and Astro Orbiter.

 

[Toffeewoffy]

1) DAS is only to meant allow ACCESS, not EXCESS.
2) The ADA does not even grant preferential treatment, simply equal or near equal access.
3) Why should anyone be allowed to bypass anyone else?

None of your post makes any sense. The DAS is not designed to jump queues. It's designed so that you've reserved your place in the queue but are not physically waiting for the 1 hour in the queue, but you return to the entrance in 1 hour to go fairly straight in (but it'll rarely be straight in as there will nearly always been FP return people ahead of you). Just because a ride doesn't have FP doesn't mean they can't let people in a different way.

Your point no 3 is therefore total rubbish. Why would you get a return time of 1 hour, say, and then have to join the queue again and wait another hour in the queue? That rather defeats the purpose of being able to wait somewhere else.

Nobody is suggesting you should be allowed to turn up with a DAS and walk straight on.

 

[SueM in MN]

I'm going to close this thread at this time.

Summary - DAS is meant to provide the ability to wait outside of the line for guests with difficulty because of their disability with waiting in the traditional line. It is not bypassing; just waiting somewhere else.

For attractions with Fastpass, approach the CM at the Standby Line. In our lives perience that is almost always the one giving DAS Return Times.
If it is not that CM, they will direct you to the correct person.
When you return, the Fastpass Return Line is going to almost always be where you go in.

Most of the attractions without Fastpass at WDW generally have short waits. It is most likely with a short wait that you will be told to go into the regular line.
There MAY be another entrance available; there may be DAS Return Time available, but no guarantee for those without Fastpass. It would depend on whether or not there is an alternate way to bring guests in. The wait time would determine the DAS Return Time; the same as attractions with Fastpass.