Dad encourages his son to beat up his bully and gets arrested....

[DizBelle]

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=8423183

Thoughts?

 

[Toad_Passenger]

As much as I hate bullying, an adult encouraging violence against another child is pretty disgusting.

 

[dngnb8]

What was wrong is dad delivered son to attack a child. Dad should have just told son it is okay to defend yourself.

Then, next time the bully started in, the boy reacts.

 

[Wall-E1]

The dad deserves whatever he gets. Hope they take into account that the child was following the dad's orders, and don't come down as hard on the kid. It's not his fault that his dad went to moronic levels to attack the other child. I've always told my child to tell an adult if there is a bullying issue. I understand that there can be times where you have no choice but to defend yourself. But what this dad did was ridiculous... driving him over to the other kid, encouraging him to choke the other kid, etc. This was not self defense. There may have been bullying incidences in the past, but this was an unprovoked attack.

 

[cari12]

Violence doesn't stop bullying, you are just sinking to their level.
And I agree, a parent encouraging violence against another child is disgusting. It is one thing to defend yourself in the moment, another to go deliberately to hurt someone.

 

[someannonymouschick]

What is it with parents? I just saw this story as well

GLENDALE - A local mom is facing a felony after prosecutors say she encouraged her teenage daughters beat up a classmate.

Wife and mother See Lee Pulu of Glendale has been charged with rioting for encouraging her own three daughters to beat up a 13-year-old.

It started with two 13-year-old girls who were battling it out on Facebook, until it finally came to a head at Glendale Middle School.

As the tension kept growing, one of the girls asking the other girl to fight.

According to police, the girl agreed to meet up because the rival's mom would be there.

Pulu then drove her 13-year-old to Glendale Middle School, but seconds after the girl arrived at Pulu's car, Pulu's 13-year-old allegedly began attacking her, and Pulu's two other daughters, ages 15 and 17, got in on the act as well.

Police say the girl was pulled to the ground and beat up repeatedly.

It is reported that Pulu then shrieked at the bloodied teen, "This is what happens when you run your mouth."

Pulu's husband said his wife was at the school when it happened but didn't encourage violence.

The DA says Pulu is facing a felony charge of rioting and a class B misdemeanor of assault.

Prosecutors say behavior like this can devastate a child's sense of security.

 

[Coconut36]

The dad deserves whatever he gets. Hope they take into account that the child was following the dad's orders, and don't come down as hard on the kid. It's not his fault that his dad went to moronic levels to attack the other child. I've always told my child to tell an adult if there is a bullying issue. I understand that there can be times where you have no choice but to defend yourself. But what this dad did was ridiculous... driving him over to the other kid, encouraging him to choke the other kid, etc. This was not self defense. There may have been bullying incidences in the past, but this was an unprovoked attack.

I agree. Reprehensible for an adult to encourage and enable violence in such a manner.

Sadly my DH had to bust up an off campus fight (in sight of school grounds) and PARENTS drove there with their child and PARENTS were screaming obscenities and encouraging extreme violence against a 12-14 year old. Disgusting people...I believe the Principal and police ended up being involved in it.

 

[ChattaAlley]

I do not agree with the way this man handled things. I agree with a PP that said they would tell their child to defend themselves if need be. I do not think it is sinking to their level if you defend yourself. And Yes most of the time standing up for yourself does stop the bullying.

 

[Hoodie]

Paredes has two prior convictions -- for DWI in 2001 and for assault of a family member in 2009.

Gee. You don't say.

Have to agree with PPs. Telling and even teaching your child to defend themselves is one thing. Encouraging violence is another. Who is the bully now?

 

[MrsDuck]

Dad should've just left it at "Violence is never the answer" or "It's okay to defend yourself".

Whatever sentencing he gets is deserved.

 

[JessicaR]

I'm an advocate of teaching our children to stand up for themselves. To not tolerate bullying. But this Dad drove his son to START a fight and stood there egging him on.

Yeah, that's not cool at all. Not a very bright man. I feel bad for the lessons he has obviously been teaching his son.

 

[FireDancer]

There is a difference between defending yourself and seeking out the fight. I think it is right he is getting charged. If someone physically attacks me I can physically fight back. If someone merely verbally attacks me I can fight back with words (I see no reason to respond to even mean words with physical violence). But I can't go seek out someone and beat them up.

 

[fireflymedic]

the mom had it right, the boy needed to "defend" himself.

not what the dad and boy did as it sounds by starting the fight.

but than again they let women that get beat up by a husband day in and day out to get off when they finaly break and kill the guy usually when he is sleeping or just walked in the door.

If I was on a jury and you can prove the boy that got beat up realy was a bully picking on the boy arrested I would not convict.

so many of the bullied kids end up getting a gun or knife and go off the deep end. this is not as bad as the bully could have gotten he should feel lucky.

someone has to protect the small and weak, sounds like the boy was a couple yrs. older than him, the school should be ashamed for not doing something about this before it got to this point

IMHO

 

[thomas998]

Only problem is when the parent takes the kid to the bully so that the kid can attack. The best option is to simply teach your child how to defend against an attacker.

People might say that violence wont stop bullying... I beg to differ. I was a target until I popped a bullies arm out of its socket. I was never bothered again in school.. Violence is the only thing that does work against a bully, because the pat answer when you tell a teacher in a school is don't be a tattler.

 

[KatieCollette]

While I think this Dad went waaaay overboard, and definitely encouraged this, I think you should encourage your kid to stand up for himself.

Not so much when they are grade school old, but in middle school and high school kids can't just "ignore them and hope they go away." This way they are seen as an easy target.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

What was wrong is dad delivered son to attack a child. Dad should have just told son it is okay to defend yourself.

Then, next time the bully started in, the boy reacts.

I was going to say the same thing.

In Martial Arts, they teach you all that to DEFEND yourself. They don't teach it to you so that you can go out and assault people.

This in particular, if accurate--was excessive as well:

"Several witnesses stated that he was telling his son to choke him and also to punch him," Det. Elizondo said.

Encouraging harm is NEVER okay.

It looks like dad has a prior arrest for assault on a family member. I wonder if he was "defending" himself.

 

[Cannot_Wait_4Disney]

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=8423183
Thoughts?

Seems pretty cut and dry to me. If he'd taught the kid to defend himself and said it was ok to defend himself it would be one thing. Driving the kid over to beat someone up and then shouting hit him, choke him, and egging the kid on is quite another.

Guilty as charged.

 

[manning]

I had live with my grandparents til 9 and grandma taught me to not fight period. I ended up a target of bullies.

When I was able to live with my dad he told me if someone picked a fight to defend myself. That stopped the bullying. He also made the point if I picked a fight or bully I would not be sitting for a week.

 

[scrapquitler]

Dad obviously shouldn't have handled the situation the way he did. He should have told his son to defend himself if necessary and left it at that. The father never should have driven the child to the bus stop and encouraged the fighting.

But sometimes the only way to send the message to the bully, especially if the school is not doing anything to prevent the bullying, is to put the bully in his place.

Our school district has a no tolerance for fighting policy. Any child involved in a fight gets suspended. Even the innocent victim. I have told my child since day one that she is NOT to hit anyone. However if she is attacked first, I expect her to defend herself. If she gets hit by someone, she's going to be suspended anyway, so she might as well hit them back and send them the message to not mess with her again.

 

[happygirl]

I hope the dad gets a lot of jail timem and see what it like to be beat on.