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I’m assuming, and correct me if I’m wrong, if I show up at 8:30am for my 8:00am slot, we will still be let in?

I have to arrange DAS for my dad first thing that morning (with him of course) as their flight gets in late the night before. He isn’t a speedy mover so I’m pretty sure we’re going to be slightly late :)
One good thing is that City Hall is open before park opening, and at that time there usually isn't a line or much of a line. So that should work in your favor.
ETA: regarding being late, you have enough time to read lots of reviews of other people's experience before your trip dates. So keep an eye on what time people got in line and whether anyone showed up later.
 
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I’m debating on when to take my first (and possibly only) trip to Disneyland. I currently don’t have a reservation to SWGE, and I cannot afford the on property reservations. I’m a little bummed about the reservations but more concerned about the crowds.

Do you think crowds will be awful June 18-23? OR do you think most people will be waiting until after the 23rd when a reservation isn’t required to visit SWGE/the parks?

I know nobody actually knows, but I’m looking for your best guesses and theories. I’m trying to decide if I should move our trip back or keep it as is...
I would think the crowds would be worse once the reservation period ends. If you don't mind missing out on seeing SWGE, I'd keep your current dates. Like you said, there's no way to know though.
 
Even though it's reservations only for the first month, I wonder if they will list the wait times on the app.:confused3 I know it's only one ride, but it would be kind of nice for us to see so we could get an idea of the craziness.
 
I’m assuming, and correct me if I’m wrong, if I show up at 8:30am for my 8:00am slot, we will still be let in?

My guess is that at 8:30 there will still be people in line who showed up at 8:00 but haven't gotten in yet because of the elaborate check-in process, so Disney won't even notice. But I expect that you will be allowed to enter the land at any time. (Whether they will let you leave and return is another question.)
 

I would ask you what answer your common sense tells you, especially based on your experience here on this board.

Thank you. I have quite a bit of experience on this board, from which I have learned that my common sense is never a good predictor of what the moderators will do. Your transparency and clear articulation of the rules are much appreciated!
 
Please drop the multiple reservation topic. No more stirring the pot. When we get official word from Disney, then we can discuss that.


Good question on the hours for the Baby Care Center. If they're not open, would First Aid let you use a private area? I'm sure they wouldn't be busy at that hour.
Thank you, I hadn’t thought about first aid.

It’s been a long time since I’ve arrived for rope drop. How early can we enter through the turnstiles for an 8am opening?
 
They pretty much have to open it or risk rioting. Some of the drinks are non-alcoholic, so they can always serve just those in that he morning, if they don’t want to do liquor at that time

I fear this might be right. They have to open it but might not serve the full menu. That would be too bad. When I visited Harry Potter in Orlando they certainly had no problem with selling beer for breakfast, I hope Disney does the same.
 
I am curious what time people with 8am reservations are planning on arriving to the parks and what the line up process might be.

I have a bit of a unique situation in rhE I’m leaving my baby home for SWGE, and I’ll need to pump immediately before entering the land at 8am and immediately after exiting the land. I’ll need to use the baby care center in DL before I get into line for SWGR. I wonder what time the baby care center is open? Before regular park opening since it’s on Main Street?

I am also wondering on this. We go 6/7, so I will be watching the reports the whole week before. We have an 8 AM time, and are pretty good at getting there for rope drop usually. But, this will be different and I will want to be there very early most likely. My Mom will hate that as she is not the best in the AM, but I know we need to arrive early and will need a few extra minutes to stop to grab a wheelchair for her. Really thinking it is time to buy one and skip the step to rent one.
 
Until reports from the first few days come in, it's hard to know how to time out arrival for an 8am entry to SW:GE. My fear is that I'll arrive early, but not early enough, which will lead to bottlenecks that'll mean I can't actually get into SW:GE until after the reservation time, which would obviously cut down on my 4 hour block. Here's my thought process...

Time to park car. Usually not bad first thing in the AM (at least at M&F) but expecting more people than usual showing up so this could back up at the toll booths. I forget, will the new structure be open by then?

Time at security. Again, usually not too bad early in the AM at the lot or on the DTD/DLH side for EMH. But it can back up pretty fast once people start streaming in from PPH and DLH. We know the hotels are sold out the first few days, so this could be a big bottleneck.

Time at main gate. Another big bottleneck opportunity. I assume that they'll let people into Main Street before the 8am opening as usual, and I hope that they actually start letting people in extra early, say 7:30 or even 7am just to get the crowd flow in order.

Time at rope. Unclear how this will work. They could hold people for normal rope drop at 8am, but that would mean a mad dash to SW:GE entrance. I'm actually assuming they'll have some kind of dedicated line in place for SW:GE that you can get in as soon as you are through main gate.

Time waiting to get into SW:GE. How soon will they start processing people and letting them into the land? If it is at 8am, which I would expect, only the first few people in line will actually get their full 4 hour block. It shouldn't take too long (I hope) to scan reservation codes, but if it's like waiting at the main gate, it could easily be 15 minutes.

Other questions & thoughts:

A lot depends on how many people are in each reservation block. Hundreds? Thousands? Smuggler's Run can supposedly handle 1800 per hour, so that's 7200 in 4 hours operating at maximum efficiency. It doesn't make sense that they'd let in more people than could actually experience the ride, or to expect the ride to operate at 100% efficiency all day. You have to assume there are some people who will go into SW:GE but not ride, but that's probably not too many people.

Will the line be too long to attempt multiple rides in the 4 hour block? If you just wanted to ride and not do anything else, how many times do you think you could ride? Once? Twice? More? Haven't seen anything to suggest you are limited to one ride.

Will you be able to stay in line if your reservation time has expired? This is for shops and especially the ride. If you've waited in line for an hour (to ride, or for a lightsaber, or some weird milk) it doesn't seem right to kick people out. If you can stay in line, then I'd try to ride Smuggler's Run first thing, then do other stuff with the rest of my time, and then hop back in Smuggler's Run line just before my reservation expires.

Will they use all 3 entrances (Fantasyland, Big Thunder, Critter Country)? Using all three entrances would speed up the entry process and distribute the crowd.
 
A lot depends on how many people are in each reservation block. Hundreds? Thousands? Smuggler's Run can supposedly handle 1800 per hour, so that's 7200 in 4 hours operating at maximum efficiency. It doesn't make sense that they'd let in more people than could actually experience the ride, or to expect the ride to operate at 100% efficiency all day. You have to assume there are some people who will go into SW:GE but not ride, but that's probably not too many people.
I've heard a rumor of 3000 people per reservation block. I knew I should have listed 2,999 people as guests on my reservation!
 
Will you be able to stay in line if your reservation time has expired? This is for shops and especially the ride. If you've waited in line for an hour (to ride, or for a lightsaber, or some weird milk) it doesn't seem right to kick people out. If you can stay in line, then I'd try to ride Smuggler's Run first thing, then do other stuff with the rest of my time, and then hop back in Smuggler's Run line just before my reservation expires..

I can't imagine that they will let people stay in after the time block because then it has a domino effect on the rest of the day, but who knows? If people from the 8-noon block are getting in line at 11:59 for the ride, and the line is 2 hours long, then that worsens the crowds and makes the ride line that much longer for the 11-3 guests and so on. At the Halloween parties when they do the wrist bands, if you don't have the wrist band, you can't get in line for a ride after the "cut off time". But I think they let you stay in line if you join the line before the cut off time, so maybe they will let you get in line one minute prior to the end of your 4 hour window. If they've lowered the number of guests in all the groups other than the 8am group, this might work ok. If not, it is going to build and build as people try to stretch their 4 hours into a lot more than that. This was one reason I was trying for an 8am reservation but only 11am was left for my dates once I finally got through at 72 minutes yesterday.
 
So if my time is from 11 to 3 then in the time period I can go on ride (rides sorry I have no idea how many there are) as many times as I can fit into my schedule but does that also mean I can get in line at 2:59 and still ride and possibly be in for another hour depending on lines? I am thinking that is going to cause some serious overlapping of people during the first one or two hours of my four hours.
 
So if my time is from 11 to 3 then in the time period I can go on ride (rides sorry I have no idea how many there are) as many times as I can fit into my schedule
YES, but there is just 1 ride. There are also multiple experience, as well as food, drinks and shops

but does that also mean I can get in line at 2:59 and still ride and possibly be in for another hour depending on lines? .
We dont know, and this information will not be available until May 31, when the land officially opens
 
My pure guess is that they will allow people in line to remain in line after the cutoff time, but they will make the cutoff time earlier than the end of the reservation window. For example, I could see them saying anyone with 8-noon slots must be in line for the ride no later than 11:00, which is when the next group will start flooding in.

That said, I think long lines and backups are inevitable, because new E-ticket rides always have frequent breakdowns during the first few weeks of operation. I think anyone who is in a slot other than the 8:00 slot would do well to assess the wait time situation for the Falcon ride first thing upon entering, and decide whether to get in line first or go other stuff and wait to ride.
 
YES, but there is just 1 ride. There are also multiple experience, as well as food, drinks and shops


We dont know, and this information will not be available until May 31, when the land officially opens

Wow. Only one ride. I guess I really am behind on this SW stuff. I am guessing the one ride is going to be a very long wait.
 
Time at main gate. Another big bottleneck opportunity. I assume that they'll let people into Main Street before the 8am opening as usual, and I hope that they actually start letting people in extra early, say 7:30 or even 7am just to get the crowd flow in order.

Time at rope. Unclear how this will work. They could hold people for normal rope drop at 8am, but that would mean a mad dash to SW:GE entrance. I'm actually assuming they'll have some kind of dedicated line in place for SW:GE that you can get in as soon as you are through main gate.
My guess, as I have no inside info, is they may utilize the passageway built behind the shops on Main Street to help with park exit in the evening for those not wanting to stand in Main Street fire works. It would seem to make sense to have a some sort of queue taped off in the area between the Emporium and the Jungle Cruise, at least for the 8a.m. Timeslots. They could keep SWGE 08:00 people to the left entrance turnstiles and then funnel them to the passageway. That would get the SWGE people out of the rest of the park ingress crowds at opening and allow them to better manage the initial crowd flows. Once at the end of Main Street where that passageway ends, then have a way to route or split people to one of the three entrances, or however many they will be using.

With Guardians of the Galaxy, the first few months after opening they had separate lines starting on Buena Vista street with the ride line being snaked by a cast member through Hollywood Monsters,Inc area to the Hyperion and another for fast pass machines that went thru the boulevard and then some backstage areas, all to help separate and manage the initial morning rush crowds.
 
So if my time is from 11 to 3 then in the time period I can go on ride (rides sorry I have no idea how many there are) as many times as I can fit into my schedule but does that also mean I can get in line at 2:59 and still ride and possibly be in for another hour depending on lines? I am thinking that is going to cause some serious overlapping of people during the first one or two hours of my four hours.
I have a STRONG suspicion that they're going to give each group a dedicated ride time when you check in. Otherwise you'd have a mad run to the ride either right when the reservation starts or ends. How crappy would it be to be in Group 2 of the day and the line is already 2 hours long when you arrive?

It makes way more sense to give each person a ride time and space out the capacity. The lower the wait times are for people, the more money Disney can make on food and merch. It's a win/win for both guests and Disney's bottom line.

This is how the Avatar preview events and Toy Story Land Passholder events operated.
 
Wow. Only one ride. I guess I really am behind on this SW stuff. I am guessing the one ride is going to be a very long wait.
There will eventually be two rides but the second doesn't open up until this fall I believe.
 
This is how the Avatar preview events and Toy Story Land Passholder events operated.

What was the mechanism for it? Do they give you a window of time to enter the line? Is that window an hour like a normal FP?
 
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