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I separated from ex when DS was just 12 weeks old, actually the first day I went back to work and came home to find a house full of drunks partying and smoking around my newborn:scared1: I never looked back! Unfortunately, ex quit his job the very first week his pay was garnished and has never worked on the books since. DS will graduate from high school on Saturday and it has been a long 18 years trying to collect support. There were other issues too, like spending every Saturday at the local bar with DS but when I brought this up in court I was told I could not decide where or when ex spent time with DS and if this so-called bar sold food, wasn't it a restaurant as well. Yeah, a restaurant that no one eats at! Pool tables, live music, all the townies at the bar by 3 pm.

I take ex to court three or four times a year to collect arrears up to that point which he somehow always manages to come up with (Mommy writes the check I think since a few years ago when the court threatened to put him in jail for non-payment). The one time I complained about his financial statement never changing (has been claiming $400 gross/week for the last 18 years) the judge told me that since he doesn't have anything on the books if I brought the subject up again he would have to lower the support to state minimum which I think was $52/week instead of the $100 I was getting. So I shut up and take what I get.

Like some other posters I decided early on that I would not badmouth DS's father, that I would let him learn himself that my choice for his father was a bad one ~ I will never forgive myself for that bad choice. This young man deserved a better father, someone to help raise him (divorced or not) and provide good role modeling, but that wasn't how it worked out. DS has basically stopped having regular contact with his Dad in the last two years. They still speak on the phone and he goes over to visit on the holidays. His father was unable to help him financially when he bought a truck or for his prom expenses. He graduates on Saturday and I'm not sure if he's inviting his Dad to the ceremony and I'm sure not inviting him here for the cookout after. DS called him three times in the last month asking for $ for senior year things and each time his Dad said sure, come on over (to his Moms where he has lived since we divorced). Each time DS arrived, his father made some excuse and then asked for a ride somewhere. Boy, that really hurt him! I think his Dad may have finally severed the ties with that one.

In MA, I believe arrears on the books prevent renewing a license, and they can get at any tax returns assuming the ex is in the system, not in my case. But, 18 years later and I was very persistent, and I am completely paid up as of one month ago. I'll make a court date again in August just before DS goes into the Air Force and get that last check and then good riddance!
 
WOW.

It was so upsetting just reading this thread. I'm appalled (but I guess I shouldn't be surprised) by the number of people that just don't support their kids. My dh has always paid every penny for support for my dss, it would never occur to him not to...it's his child. He is with us for 3 days every week but the schedule is flexible and constantly changing to meet the needs of us, my dss and his mom. And I bet some of these deadbeat dads are remarried/in relationships. What kind of woman would get involved with a man not meeting his obligations like that? Just boggles my mind.

Anyway, wanted to let you all know that there ARE some great dads out there...divorced or not. And that I've said a prayer for all of your kids that got yucky ones...so sad. :(
 
So should I transfer the case to Florida where I live or to Maine where he lives? Also another question, about lawyers.........do I hire one in Florida or Maine? Thanks for help, I learn soooo much on the DISboards:thumbsup2

If you open your case in FL, what they will do is have your order registered in Maine and then ask Maine to enforce it. The reason for this is that Maine has jurisdiction over him, and that is needed for enforcement.

If you hire an attorney, I would hire one In Maine, as they will also have the order registered in Maine...so it would be better to have an attorney in the state where any court proceedings will happen.

If you hire an attorney, don't bother opening your case in FL because Fl can't do anything as long as you have an ongoing private action with an attorney.

Hope that helps!
 
Well, my ex hasn't pay since November of 2007. I called and called and nothing :( I don't know what to do, he's a ghost, going from place to place, I think he's in Alabama but don't know where, he doesn't report income tax, hasn't pay his car either because they called me looking for him.

I do have the eppicard.

My Son graduated last month and he didn't even send him a dollar, or called, nothing.
 

WOW.

It was so upsetting just reading this thread. I'm appalled (but I guess I shouldn't be surprised) by the number of people that just don't support their kids. My dh has always paid every penny for support for my dss, it would never occur to him not to...it's his child. He is with us for 3 days every week but the schedule is flexible and constantly changing to meet the needs of us, my dss and his mom. And I bet some of these deadbeat dads are remarried/in relationships. What kind of woman would get involved with a man not meeting his obligations like that? Just boggles my mind.

Anyway, wanted to let you all know that there ARE some great dads out there...divorced or not. And that I've said a prayer for all of your kids that got yucky ones...so sad. :(


Indeed.

If it wasn't for my husband, he's an angel, not only he takes care of the kids, he's their daddy, father, friend, because my he just doesn't care.

I don't know what to do, I wish my husband can give them his name and we can do something to make my ex pay, but we can't really afford a lawyer, so :confused3
 
As long as you have a court order stating you have full custody, you should be good. We dont have anything from the court saying I have full custody, even though I get child support... I dont know.. I dont really get it.

That's my issue. For all the bs and such that we've gone through and even with my exhusband having not seen the kids since last year, he still gets to have joint custody, so I'm hung out to dry for my DD's passport. He's spiteful and just because he knows it will inconvenience me, he won't consent. I asked my lawyer about going to a judge to get it and she said we could-but that my ex will have to be called in. Since he has been leaving the kids alone (and they are happy this way), I don't want to stir things up at the moment. We have no plans to go anywhere right now, but I'd hate to be between and rock and a hard place trying to get a passport for DD later when we DO have plans.

My donor is a 28 yr old infant. His mom would probably still breast feed him if she could! Anything he does, she makes excuses for him. When he was arrested for violating my order of protection it was MY fault for calling the cops. He subsequently lost his city job because of too many arrests, which was my fault also. She bought him and his real winner of a girlfriend a new house in PA, bought him a NEW Explorer (that's not a cheap truck!), pays for the gas for it, supports him, his GF, and HER 2 kids, but refuses to pay a dollar for my DS. After she purchased his new truck (just the newest of his fleet. He gets a car or 2 a year) she told him he has to go to court and file for a downward modification because she can't afford a whopping $50/week. She doesn't think he should have to pay support or work because he's bipolar. :sad2: The day that woman dies he is in a world of trouble because he has never supported himself in his life. Anything he wants, she gives him. He gets about 3 or 4 cell phones a year AT LEAST. Hello, don't you think your son is a bit more important than getting a new sidekick?!?

He also owes me $1300 for dental bills and I can't afford to have the rest of DS' teeth fixed until he pays it. CSE won't do anything about it and are of no help at all. They told me they reported him to the credit bureau. Big whoop! He had terrible credit to begin with. Sorry for the long rant! It is just so frustrating!

Your ex sounds like mine. I also have a restraining order against my exhusband. It's amazing hearing everyone's stories and how similar they all are. Makes you wonder if these men get a class on how to make babies and buck the system. :( My ex has everything he owns in mommy's name too-which is why he's been able to evade paying for so long. It's sick really. I will say this...if my DS ever did this later in life you can be sure I'd be kicking his butt MAKING him pay to support his children-not helping him avoid it. It's just wrong. I don't understand it.

There is supposed to be a federal network regarding child support. He should be on a national registrar. Ask your CS if he is and if not -why? It is their job to put him on it. If they haven't done their job go to the State's Attorney's office and your local representatives and complain. I have even gone to the governor's office to complain when my daughter was not getting the service I thought she was entitled to with CS.

I am the ex-mother-in-law from you know where in the eyes of my ex-sil. I have learned to use the legislative branch to prod the CS people. If I am not satisfied with an answer from the CS person, I always go higher. It only takes a few phone calls and emails. I am always polite but I do not take no for an answer. I vote for the people who do the budgets. I expect my representatives in local, state, and federal positions to enforce the law. Someone is always funding someone's budget or running for election, or just doesn't like bad press. Children not recieving CS is bad press.

I will say that I had written to my Senator once and I did get action. Your right...CS does not like to have the higher ups breathing down their neck (or up their backsides). At the time, my ex was working, so I had recourse to get my money. Now-NOTHING...no job...just sits home I suppose eating bon bons and watching Jerry Springer reruns perhaps? I don't know. But I've complained and now they tell me because he has no job (on the books anyway), that I have no recourse. Great system! I think they should have a program that takes all these so-called unemployed dads and puts them to work. No job? No problem! We'll give you one! I bet you'd see a lot of dad's pony up then!

You can go to court and get sole legal custody. It has to read "Sole Legal Custody" for the State Dept to give your minor child a passport.

DS just turned 16 in April so we're good there. DD is 14. Our state is wacky (aren't they all though?). Here they won't take joint custody away unless your ex is dangling from the rafters of the courthouse high on crack and threatening to kill everyone. And even then...they still would give a hard time about denying them their parental rights. My ex has been incarcerated and they would not revoke his joint custody. My lawyer told me is pretty much impossible to get them to change custody. I keep telling myself...4 more years and we are free. We've gotten this far, we'll get through it.

I take ex to court three or four times a year to collect arrears up to that point which he somehow always manages to come up with (Mommy writes the check I think since a few years ago when the court threatened to put him in jail for non-payment). The one time I complained about his financial statement never changing (has been claiming $400 gross/week for the last 18 years) the judge told me that since he doesn't have anything on the books if I brought the subject up again he would have to lower the support to state minimum which I think was $52/week instead of the $100 I was getting. So I shut up and take what I get.

Like some other posters I decided early on that I would not badmouth DS's father, that I would let him learn himself that my choice for his father was a bad one ~ I will never forgive myself for that bad choice. This young man deserved a better father, someone to help raise him (divorced or not) and provide good role modeling, but that wasn't how it worked out. DS has basically stopped having regular contact with his Dad in the last two years. They still speak on the phone and he goes over to visit on the holidays. His father was unable to help him financially when he bought a truck or for his prom expenses. He graduates on Saturday and I'm not sure if he's inviting his Dad to the ceremony and I'm sure not inviting him here for the cookout after. DS called him three times in the last month asking for $ for senior year things and each time his Dad said sure, come on over (to his Moms where he has lived since we divorced). Each time DS arrived, his father made some excuse and then asked for a ride somewhere. Boy, that really hurt him! I think his Dad may have finally severed the ties with that one.

In MA, I believe arrears on the books prevent renewing a license, and they can get at any tax returns assuming the ex is in the system, not in my case. But, 18 years later and I was very persistent, and I am completely paid up as of one month ago. I'll make a court date again in August just before DS goes into the Air Force and get that last check and then good riddance!

Sounds like my ex-again...when he does get arrested for non-payment, its amazing that his unemployed butt can come up with cash to get out of going to jail. I'm not dumb though...I know his mommy is bankrolling it for him. Wouldn't it be easier though and less embarrassing to just pay regularly? I know if the sherriffs department showed up at my door at 5am to haul one of my family members off to jail, I'd be humiliated and talk about inconvenient in having to go down and bail them out at that hour.

WOW.

It was so upsetting just reading this thread. I'm appalled (but I guess I shouldn't be surprised) by the number of people that just don't support their kids. My dh has always paid every penny for support for my dss, it would never occur to him not to...it's his child. He is with us for 3 days every week but the schedule is flexible and constantly changing to meet the needs of us, my dss and his mom. And I bet some of these deadbeat dads are remarried/in relationships. What kind of woman would get involved with a man not meeting his obligations like that? Just boggles my mind.

Anyway, wanted to let you all know that there ARE some great dads out there...divorced or not. And that I've said a prayer for all of your kids that got yucky ones...so sad. :(

You know, its a terribly unpleasant topic, so I hesitated to get the ball rolling with this thread. But, it seems that there are a lot of us out there with the same issue and if there is anything we can learn from each other than I thought...what the heck, its worth it. If nothing else, we know we're not alone in our struggle and it does provide a certain level of comfort (for me anyway) to know that I'm not in this battle alone.

Indeed.

If it wasn't for my husband, he's an angel, not only he takes care of the kids, he's their daddy, father, friend, because my he just doesn't care.

I don't know what to do, I wish my husband can give them his name and we can do something to make my ex pay, but we can't really afford a lawyer, so :confused3

AMEN to the wonderful men that have come into our lives to help pick up the pieces! My kids call my DH dad because he is-he does all the good and the bad with them and takes care of them. About a year ago I found a letter that my DD has written to one of her friends and she had said that my DH was the dad she never had and she was so happy he came into her life. She went on to detail to her friend how DH always comes to her school plays and went to the daddy/daughter dance with her and took her fishing, etc. Well let me tell you, I burst into tears over that and so did DH when I showed him. I guess we're doing something right. ;) Kids aren't stupid-they really know who is there for them and who isn't in the end.
 
Can you apply for full custody? My daughter was able to get both full legal and physical custody.
I dont even know what I need to do for that.
You can go to court and get sole legal custody. It has to read "Sole Legal Custody" for the State Dept to give your minor child a passport.

Once your child is 16 they no longer need two parents to sign the consent form.

You can also go to court and ask a judge to give you permission to get your child a passport with out getting the sole custody order.

Filling in the "special circumstances" on the form is a waste of time. I have NEVER seen anyone get it.
Do I need a lawyer? Is there a way I can just file, and do it on my own? I know we dont have money for a lawyer. Do we still get CS then?
Indeed.

If it wasn't for my husband, he's an angel, not only he takes care of the kids, he's their daddy, father, friend, because my he just doesn't care.

I don't know what to do, I wish my husband can give them his name and we can do something to make my ex pay, but we can't really afford a lawyer, so :confused3
I hear that!! We have talked about dh adopting ds for a while now, but we dont have the money for that.. We have been together since Alex was 6mo. He is the only dad Alex has ever known, and they are just peas in a pod!
 
AMEN to the wonderful men that have come into our lives to help pick up the pieces! My kids call my DH dad because he is-he does all the good and the bad with them and takes care of them. About a year ago I found a letter that my DD has written to one of her friends and she had said that my DH was the dad she never had and she was so happy he came into her life. She went on to detail to her friend how DH always comes to her school plays and went to the daddy/daughter dance with her and took her fishing, etc. Well let me tell you, I burst into tears over that and so did DH when I showed him. I guess we're doing something right. ;) Kids aren't stupid-they really know who is there for them and who isn't in the end.

I know. My DH is an Angel. He always call them his kids, and even my older son (19) we has ten when we got together, he wasn't sure, but now is different. He didn't wanted his "father' at his graduation, he told me the only one that he wanted to see there was DH, because he was his Dad, he was with him since 5 grade and went to all his games and plays, we paid for all his trips, he was there when he was sick, when he was sad, etc, and after the ceremony he gave him a hug and told me thank you for everything Dad, I was you know in tears.
That makes me love him even more everyday.
 
I dont even know what I need to do for that.

Do I need a lawyer? Is there a way I can just file, and do it on my own? I know we dont have money for a lawyer. Do we still get CS then?

I hear that!! We have talked about dh adopting ds for a while now, but we dont have the money for that.. We have been together since Alex was 6mo. He is the only dad Alex has ever known, and they are just peas in a pod!

I don't know either. And I don't even care about his money at this point, he hasn't pay since Nov, so he can keep his money.
But right now we can't afford a lawyer.

Same here, dh is the only Dad they know, my ex doesn't even remember their birthdays, or what grade they go, nothing. My older son was in 3rd grade when we divorced, he just graduated from HS, and he never went to his schools, he was in marching band for 4 years and nothing, he had surgery in 2005 and not even called. :rolleyes1 My other DD doesn't even remember him.
 
I don't know either. And I don't even care about his money at this point, he hasn't pay since Nov, so he can keep his money.
But right now we can't afford a lawyer.

Same here, dh is the only Dad they know, my ex doesn't even remember their birthdays, or what grade they go, nothing. My older son was in 3rd grade when we divorced, he just graduated from HS, and he never went to his schools, he was in marching band for 4 years and nothing, he had surgery in 2005 and not even called. :rolleyes1 My other DD doesn't even remember him.

Oh man! What a scum bag!

We were cleaning out our room the other day, and found a pic of Alex and his dad when Alex was first born. Alex was looking at it, and said... "Hey. That is my other dad. I havent seen him for a long time. I wonder if he forgot about me." He just had the longest saddest looking face I have ever seen on him. I was BAWLING!! We havent seen his bio dad since his 5th birthday... So it has been a year and a half now. Honestly... If dh could just adopt him, and we never had to worry if he was going to pop back into our lives I would GLADLY give up the support. Not that I get it much anyways. :rolleyes1
 
Those of you who have found REAL fathers for your kids, would you please clone them? :goodvibes I would love to have that for my son... and hey, for myself, as well! :)

The mention of passports brought back bad memories. I just went through that a year or so ago. DS and I needed passports for our Disney cruise this past February (or did at the time, until they pushed the date back again) and it took a YEAR for my utterly useless ex to take time out of his busy day not working to sign that waiver in front of a notary. I gave him a stamped, addressed envelope, even gave him money for the notary, and it still took him a year. I was so happy when DS and I finally got those passports, you have no idea... and it makes me even happier to know that when DS's comes up for renewal in 5 years, he'll be 16 and won't need the ex's "consent."

Like the OP's, our state is one where "joint legal conservatorship" is the rule, and it's frankly ridiculous. It basically assumes that two parents are ALWAYS better than one, even if one of them is an alcoholic, on drugs, abusive, you name it. Why, he's the father! So that trumps everything! Well, it doesn't trump common sense, and thank the heavens all of us here seem to have plenty of that. ::yes::


-gina-
 
Those of you who have found REAL fathers for your kids, would you please clone them? :goodvibes I would love to have that for my son... and hey, for myself, as well! :)

It took me 7 years after my divorce to stumble on my phenomenal DH. The god ones are out there. Oh, believe me...if I could clone DH...I would. You will definitely find your man. Its just that there are so many jerks out there that its hard to spot the good ones. ;)
 
If you open your case in FL, what they will do is have your order registered in Maine and then ask Maine to enforce it. The reason for this is that Maine has jurisdiction over him, and that is needed for enforcement.

If you hire an attorney, I would hire one In Maine, as they will also have the order registered in Maine...so it would be better to have an attorney in the state where any court proceedings will happen.

If you hire an attorney, don't bother opening your case in FL because Fl can't do anything as long as you have an ongoing private action with an attorney.

Hope that helps!

Thanks for all the insight, I'm going to email a couple of attorney's in Maine and see if any of them bite:stir:
I'll post if I hear from any of them:thumbsup2
 
Your ex sounds like mine. I also have a restraining order against my exhusband. It's amazing hearing everyone's stories and how similar they all are. Makes you wonder if these men get a class on how to make babies and buck the system. :( My ex has everything he owns in mommy's name too-which is why he's been able to evade paying for so long. It's sick really. I will say this...if my DS ever did this later in life you can be sure I'd be kicking his butt MAKING him pay to support his children-not helping him avoid it. It's just wrong. I don't understand it.

Exactly!!! I would NEVER allow my DS to act that way. I would never tell him "Well you're autistic you don't have to work or pay support." UGH! When he had his other baby with his looney tunes GF his mom told him to sign over his rights so he didn't have to pay support and then when he wanted to get visitation he could just tell the court he didn't know what he was saying because he's bipolar! And not one court official catches on to them. :furious:
 
Those of you that don't have it on paper that you have custody of your child, did you have a problem registering your child for school? I heard that can be an issue. I have custody, but don't have it on paper as of yet, although he is not on her birth certificate since he never signed the acknowledgement of paternity when she was born and it was processed with just my name as her mother, no father listed. The Court ordered a DNA test and established paternity this year after he said that "the hospital is known to make mistakes so he wants to be sure" (like they switched babies :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: ..the testing woman got a kick out of that one). So I should apply for a passport ASAP huh?

One day in court there was man contesting his paternity because the results were only 99.9% a match. He was contesting the .01%. I can't believe the court would entertain such a ridiculous petition.
 
Ah, I'm a member in this club too! Ex has never paid on his own free will, only through garnishments. He's only supposed to pay 130.00 a MONTH and was behind 4200.00 till last week. I must have got a federal tax intercept and got 1/4 of that in back support. Now he only owes 3000.00. Plus all the insurance he's supposed to have paid for 7 years.

He has never even seen dd or even asked for a picture. The kicker is he has two older daughters I was helping him raise! And he had the nerve to ask for a dna test. *jerk*

I've been single and doing it on my own ever since.
 
Oh yes, it's their right to do so! Ridiculous is right! She asked him if he wanted to contest that.01 percent and he said he wasn't that ridiculous (but he IS to even ask for a test in the first place!)

My DS' donor requested one the entire time I was pregnant...and HE was the one cheating :rotfl2: And an update: still no payments. Shocker! :rolleyes1
 
I feel terrible for some of these situations and agree that a lot of deadbeats are scumbags who need a swift kick in the (well you know) but I disagree they should go to jail. We don't have debtors prison here in the US except for child support...???
 





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