Cruising the budget way? DCL or Carnival??

I love Key West, but don't like it as a cruise port. Ships generally get in too early and leave too early, IMO, to get the true essence of that cool little town.

I've cruised to Cozumel several times. Twice we have done a tour to Tulum. That is an excursion that will take up almost all your time in port, but it's well worth it.
 
We are newbies to cruising but certainly not new to doing Disney on a budget! I need your help.

We would like to try a 3 night cruise to the Bahamas to see if we like cruising. Is it worth going DCL for such a short cruise or should we go with Carnival? (Royal Caribbean does not cruise the day we need to leave.)

By DCL standards I can get a decent rate for our dates, however Carnival is $1,000 cheaper. My guess is we will be spoiled by DCL. Please help!

I have never done DCL, but I have been on 8 CCL trips (and planning the next as soon as possible!!!). FWIW, the shorter (3 day) cruises are on older ships and are sometimes a slightly more rowdy crowd from what I've heard. But, I firmly believe a cruise is what you make it - as that Sensation post shows. With the right attitude (and especially with an extra $1000 in your pocket!), you can't go wrong with the CCL one.

All that said, I do have to second the ideas to go ahead and do a longer one! Spend that extra thousand on a 5 or 7 night cruise. You won't regret it!
 
Thanks for all of the replies and advice. I think we are going to stick with either a 3 or 4 day cruise. DH just started a new job and will have 5 days of vacation starting in Sept. and he is the one that has always wanted to cruise. We are looking at the last weekend in October as we are off school the last TH/F of that week and I get 1 personal day/year (I am a special ed. paraprofessional) so I could take off the 31st as well.

The Carnival cruise that goes to Key West & Cozumel looks interesting. Anyone try that one?

I've done that route 3 times, and it is a good one. If it is the Destiny, this is not one of the older ships (not a newer one either). The stop in Key West is short, but you can walk (or do the "train" tour - a good one) and see lots of stuff in that time (or just enjoy looking around the port and having conch fritters, margaritas, and real key lime pie! mmmm). In Cozumel, the ruins are awesome, and if you just want a beach day, Paradise Beach or Chankanaab are both great!

This is a great "starter cruise"!
 
A tiny bit OT here. How guilty should I feel if I book a cruise for just me and DH? We have never gone anywhere by ourselves. We have 2 DD's, 17 and 15. I found a great Carnival Cruise. 5 days to the Bahamas for 996.00 with just the 2 of us and that's with an ocean view. We have never cruised before. We have done Disney 5 times (that includes DL once) and always taken the girls. This cruise departs Aug 31 and the girls will be in school.
Ok, I had booked a cruise last year for the 4 of us to depart July 30. Well, my mother in law passed on July 15, so of course, we had to cancel. They kept our deposit of $700 and said we had 2 years to use it. So, like the majority of the cruise will be paid for. We only owe $300 and that includes taxes. We would just need passports and spending money. I begged my DH for a WDW trip this year and he said we can't do it. I hate to admit it, but he's right. But 3k vs $300? That's cheaper than a trip to Myrtle Beach...it just wouldn't include the girls. Part of me feels awful for thinking it, the other part feels like is 18 years of marriage, it would be nice to have a vacation by ourselves.
Don't hold back, tell me what you think.
TIA!

It's the Carnival Fantasy.

Definitely go for it!!!!!
 

Thanks for all of the replies and advice. I think we are going to stick with either a 3 or 4 day cruise. DH just started a new job and will have 5 days of vacation starting in Sept. and he is the one that has always wanted to cruise. We are looking at the last weekend in October as we are off school the last TH/F of that week and I get 1 personal day/year (I am a special ed. paraprofessional) so I could take off the 31st as well.

The Carnival cruise that goes to Key West & Cozumel looks interesting. Anyone try that one?

We did this one in October and really enjoyed it!!
 
okay....one more question. Since it is just a short cruise I would imagine we'll be on the deck or elsewhere and won't be in the room much. What are your thoughts re: inside vs. ocean view rooms?

Also...is it cheaper to book excursions through cruiseline or on your own?
 
Thanks for all of the replies and advice. I think we are going to stick with either a 3 or 4 day cruise. DH just started a new job and will have 5 days of vacation starting in Sept. and he is the one that has always wanted to cruise. We are looking at the last weekend in October as we are off school the last TH/F of that week and I get 1 personal day/year (I am a special ed. paraprofessional) so I could take off the 31st as well.

The Carnival cruise that goes to Key West & Cozumel looks interesting. Anyone try that one?

Is that the Imagination? or Inspiration? I think one or both of those go to those ports (one leaves out of Tampa though, can't remember which) and I have looked at both of them too. They both have been updated and both have a waterslide on it. I have read some reviews about both, and most were fairly positive, some were great. Again, check out cruise critic if you go on Carnival and you can get a lot of info on there about your particualr ship.


okay....one more question. Since it is just a short cruise I would imagine we'll be on the deck or elsewhere and won't be in the room much. What are your thoughts re: inside vs. ocean view rooms?

Also...is it cheaper to book excursions through cruiseline or on your own?

With the last NCL cruise we took (It was a 4 night) , we got an inside room. it was small (carnival do have bigger rooms, I think) But we had alot of fun and were not in the room a whole lot at all. Mostly just to sleep, shower and change clothes. For us, it was fine. Yes, I would love a bigger room and or balcony, but for the price and what we used it for, it was great for us.
Excursions are cheaper to book on your own, but you are responsible to be back in time for the ship, if the boat leaves, you are out of luck. With booking with the cruiseline, they won't leave without you. Also you know ithe excursion is approved by the line too. But many people do book on htere own.
 
okay....one more question. Since it is just a short cruise I would imagine we'll be on the deck or elsewhere and won't be in the room much. What are your thoughts re: inside vs. ocean view rooms?

Also...is it cheaper to book excursions through cruiseline or on your own?

Here's the deal about excursions. If you go somewhere on your own and are late for the ship, the ship won't wait. If you book through the cruiseline and the excursion is late, the ship will wait. Now, a place as small as Key West, you don't really need to book an excursion unless you are doing something like a dive trip. It's small, walkable and easy to get around. Cozumel, cabs are plentiful and you really don't need to book an excursion if you are doing something as simple as a beach trip (though some of the beach clubs prefer that you reserve in advance). A trip like Tulum? Book through the ship. That's an excursion that requires a 45 minute ferry ride and over an hour bus trip one way.
 
Disney is not budget. We cruised the Disney Magic and it was pricier than my second cruise.

Carnival is cheaper but not the Walmart of cruising. We recently cruised the Carnival Dream and it was luxurious and wonderful.

We have booked a Royal Carribean cruise and that is more than Carnival but still less than Disney.
 
I have cruised on DCL and Carnival.

On our honeymoon - we LOVED Carnival...

then we went alone on a Disney and we loved it - mostly b/c we think Castaway Cay is heaven on earth and you would be able to go to the adult only beach...it was AMAZING

Then we went on a family disney cruise and loved it even more - the kids club was FANTASTIC and we had a blast as a family.

Then we went on a another Carnival as a family and had a great time but decided DCL is best for us.

We are trying NCL on a family cruise this summer - our reasons for not doing Disney are that we want to go to Bermuda and b/c my niece is going and is afraid of characters so the Disney boat would be too much for her. Also with extended family the casino is important

Reasons I love DCL over Carnival:
Castaway Cay
Better Food
Free soda
Entertainment is so much better - and family friendly - with my little ones - I had to take them out of several of the Carnival shows. I wish they would have offered kid friendly shows earlier in the evening.
Kids club is by far the best on disney - mostly b/c it is open all day - Carnival and most others close theirs during the day for lunch and dinner. I found this annoying and we didn't get the chance to have an adult dinner. Disney also stays open later and doesn't charge you!
Rooms - are much bigger and nicer on the Disney boats.
 
I'll try not to repeat too much of what others have posted, but since this is the budget board, there are a lot of costs involved with cruising that, as first time cruisers, you might not know about. We haven't sailed on Disney, but have sailed on Carnival, Princess, RCL, and Celebrity.

If you don't have passports, you may as well order them now. They're good for 10 years, but they take a couple of months to get. A traditional passport book will run about $150 per person, or you can get a passport card (looks like a drivers license) that's good for Canada, Mexico, and the Caribbean for about $65 per person. If you already have a passport, make certain it isn't expired.

As some people have mentioned, Carnival, as well as most mass-market cruise lines charge extra for soft drinks. Thats $1.95 per can, plus 15-18% gratuity automatically added to the bill. On the first day of the cruise only, you can generally buy a special sticker for your room key that allows unlimited soft drinks for about $5 per day per person. Disney includes soft drinks at no extra charge.

Gratuities for various people on the ship will automatically be added to your account to the tune of about $10 - $11 per person per day. (Carnival definitely does this and I assume Disney does this as well, but I'm not certain.) You can request these charges be removed, but a discussion of the merits of cruise ship gratuities is WAY OT for this thread.

Alcohol is going to be an extra charge on either line. Drinks range from about $6 for the "special of the day" to about $9 for a call drink (and up from there if you're into premium booze), all plus the 15-18% gratuity. All food at the buffets and main dining room are included, but there may be "specialty outlets" like a premium restaurant or espresso stand that's an extra charge (plus, you guessed it, 15-18% gratuity).

You'll have many opportunities / offers to have your picture taken by the photo staff of the ship. There's no charge to have the picture taken, but prints can be expensive - around $25 for a single 8x10 (although individual picture prices drop the more you buy).

Most cruise lines are now including "fuel surcharge" language in their contracts. Typically it's worded that if the price of a barrel of oil is more that $XX when your cruise sails, they can add $xx per person to your account. This hasn't been invoked on our last few cruises, but with oil creeping back up toward $100/barrel, it may come into play again.

It looks like you'll be flying in from WI. The cruise line can book your airfare, but you can probably get a much better price on your own. The advantage to having the cruise line book the airfare is they will either hold the ship or make arrangements to have you meet the ship at the first port if your flight is late. The down side is you're stuck with whatever flight they give you, unless you want to pay even more for a personal preference schedule. So you might have a flight leaving WI at 6am on the day of the cruise.

I would strongly suggest flying in the day before and getting a cheap airport hotel for one night (Priceline's "name your own price" is a good tool for this). By flying in the night before you're less likely to have any problems getting to the ship before it sails if there are flight delays, you'll be less stressed by not traveling on departure day (even if you get in at 11pm the day before), and you'll probably still save money over the cruise line's airfare.

On inside versus outside cabins - you'll find the cabins are very small, especially on an older Carnival ship like Fantasy. You won't be able to do much more than sleep and shower in the cabin even if you wanted to. For a three day cruise, I'd say save the money and take the inside cabin. On a longer cruise we will occassionally take an outside cabin if there's a good deal, just for a little natural light for the longer trip.

Finally, just be aware that the really inexpensive 3-day cruises can be a "party barge", especially on Carnival. You're not going during spring break, so it may not be quite so bad, but if your trip is over a weekend you still stand a good chance of getting a large number of college kids that want to cut loose for the weekend (and Halloween weekend may be a draw). We vividly recall being berthed next to an older Carnival ship in Cozumel once, and watching two young men so drunk they could barely stand trying to help a third young man who couldn't stand at all, trying get back on the ship. (I don't know if there's a minimum drinking age in Mexico - maybe 12??)

Hope this helps, and bon voyage!
 
Wow--Andycat...thanks so much. Your info. very important and not previously considered by me. I had no idea there was so much over indulgence on those shorter cruises when you have to pay for your own alcohol! Also, didn't realize it would be an extra $45/day for gratuity and soda! We aren't big drinkers and would maybe have 1 or 2 cocktails a day... $6-9 seems comparable to resort drink prices. We would definitely fly in the day before the cruise and priceline a hotel...actually considering booking cruise through priceline because they include a before/after cruise hotel room with your booking. I noticed the high prices for airfare through the cruise line, so we'll do our own booking of airfare.Thanks for all the great info!
 
If you are asking which is better for your budget, then it doesn't matter what DCL does or does not offer. Most lines beat them.

DCL is a different cruise experience and you have to be comfortable spending the money for that.

I do feel they are worth the money when I have room in the budget and we are willing to hold out and not do Carnival.

Our experience on Carnival in 2007 was good, Disney was good. DH felt Disney was better..there were some nuances about Carnival that I liked better.

However--we must get 2 staterooms and for other reasons, DCL wins for us. The rooms connect, they have tubs, they have babysitting at decent hours (Carnival baby sitting is only from 10pm to 2am :confused3). BUt if you have 2yo, then Carnival lets non-potty trained 2yo's enjoy the kids club without a parent....

But infants are free except port charges and then DCL offers kid rates for 3rd/4th passenger....

But it isn't a budget question. Carnival will be easier on your budget.

The question is--is DCL worth the money?

IMO, yes--but don't pay rack rate!

The added on costs don't really vary from line to line. Soda is free on DCL--but that doesn't account for the $1000. Lack of gambling does though--so instead of gamblers contributing to the revenue of the ship, all passengers on DCL share the burden via higher cruise fare.
 
A few thoughts...

we just did the Imagination from Miami to KW/Cozumel. The ship is small (which can be a good thing) and our Ocean View room on it felt much smaller than the OV room on the Liberty, which we sailed on 3 years ago. We are not large people and not claustrophobic, but there is NO WAY I could handle an inside room...too tiny.

On drinks... on Carnival, the Fountain Fun Card is $6 per person, per day, plus a tax and tip on the initial purchase of the card/sticker. It cost me $29 for unlimited sodas (I needed my Sprite!) for a 4 day cruise. They only offer this before the cruise and during the first 2 days. Alcohol runs $4-9 depending on the drink, and we noticed this time that only the drinks purchased in the departure port are charged a tax. All drinks are charged a 15% (not 18) tip. Non-standard coffees are also $2-4 and charged a 15% tip.

On tips... you have the option to prepay your gratuities when booking, $10 per person, per day. Gratuities are split amongst your room stewards, dining room servers and Lido deck buffet crew (we just got that last tidbit on our last day onboard). I prefer to prepay, but think that $10 split among that many people is not enough for some of them... for instance, we had an INCREDIBLE head waiter who treated me like I was the most important person on the ship (I think pregnancy had a lot to do with it!)... we gave him an extra tip at the end of the cruise. Our room stewards did only an okay job, despite calls to the guest help, so they didn't get extra. You have the option to adjust gratuities while on board if their service is not acceptable or if it is excellent.
 
Which boat are you thinking about? I've been on the Inspiration and the Sensation. They are sister ships, older but nice.

I like DCL for small kids, RCCL for tweens and teens. I use Carnival almost annually when going on a girl's cruise with my pals. We have a great time.
 
You can bring a resasonable amount of soda on board with you on Carnival. I think we brought 2 12 packs for the four of us and had no problems. The Carnival website does have a specific amount listed that you can bring on.


We went on the Dream in August out of Pt. Canaveral.

You would have to drink a lot of soda to make the cards worthwile. We brought the sodas onboard so the teens (2) would have something to drink. We even had extras when we left. Carnival also allows one wine bottler per adult.

As for Disney, when we went in 2006, they did allow a small amount of alcohol onboard. They allowe dthe one wine bottle per adult and then a little more. Granted we weren't bringing in CASES of booze, but it was our wine bottles and one more thing.. and we had no problems

If you have teens, they may get bored on Disney. It is geared for the littler ones. My teens had a great time on the Dream.
 
okay....one more question. Since it is just a short cruise I would imagine we'll be on the deck or elsewhere and won't be in the room much. What are your thoughts re: inside vs. ocean view rooms?

Also...is it cheaper to book excursions through cruiseline or on your own?

Booking excursions on your own will cost 1/2 of what the cruiseline charges. All of the ones we've done have been within 1/2 hour from the ship, and we never worried we'd be late.
 














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