Cruise Curmudgeons of the World Unite

I have to agree with all the posts about grammar. I'll add my personal "favorite." When people say/type "I'm wanting" or "I'm needing".....How about "I want" or "I need?" What is wrong with those? I'm not even sure if it is technically grammatically sound, but it drives me friggin' bonkers!!
 
My biggest pet peeve is grammar - using "I" when it should be "me".

"The waiter was nice to the people at the other table, but he ignored my husband and I." UGH!!!!! Really? Would you also say, "He ignored I?"

And that goes waaaaaay beyond these boards.
 
I have laughed through most of this thread!

I say most, as I do consider the Captain a LOT more than a "glorified chauffeur".

And, unless you want to sport a few extra warts or suddenly start croaking like Kermit, do NOT look at me the wrong way on my upcoming cruises, for I am bringing my familiar!
The familiars are always treated royally by the CMs because they don't cry, scream, stink, run around, squirm in their seats, spill food and drinks, complain about bad jokes, get bored with talk of their home country, or write bad comments about them. Plus they are always photogenic! :thumbsup2

As for the Captain: Don't get me started! All I shall say is that my pet peeve #1 is when Guests are disrespectful to the Captain. :eek:
 

Or even better... my little Johnny should be allowed into the teen club even though he's nowhere near old enough, but rather because he is TALL for his age!

Not only that, but he is very MATURE for his age!

I have to agree with all the posts about grammar. I'll add my personal "favorite." When people say/type "I'm wanting" or "I'm needing".....How about "I want" or "I need?" What is wrong with those? I'm not even sure if it is technically grammatically sound, but it drives me friggin' bonkers!!

And what's up with "anyways"? (There's that pesky "s" again.)
 
My biggest pet peeve is grammar - using "I" when it should be "me".

"The waiter was nice to the people at the other table, but he ignored my husband and I." UGH!!!!! Really? Would you also say, "He ignored I?"

And that goes waaaaaay beyond these boards.
Your quote is 100% proper english. That is what should be said. It should not be my Husband and me, it should be my Husband and I.
 
If you're new to the boards, READ THE FAQ!

*deep breath*

I'm better now and am heading back into the grammatically challenged wasteland...
 
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How about "My six year old doesn't like to wear nice clothes. Do we have to dress up for dinner".

Really???? You let your six year old push you around? How embarrassing for you.
 
My biggest pet peeve is grammar - using "I" when it should be "me".

"The waiter was nice to the people at the other table, but he ignored my husband and I." UGH!!!!! Really? Would you also say, "He ignored I?"

And that goes waaaaaay beyond these boards.

Your quote is 100% proper english. That is what should be said. It should not be my Husband and me, it should be my Husband and I.

Actually, DOPEYLUVER was correct and it is you who are wrong.

According to
Oxford Dictionaries , I is the subject of a verb, while me is the object of a verb. A quick test is to rewrite the sentence without the additional noun.

In the example given by DOPEYLUVER, one would say "The waiter ignored me" (with me serving as the object of the verb ignored). Alternatively, to use I, one would have to say "I was ignored by the waiter" (where I is the subject of the sentence, which has been rewritten in the passive voice).

Sorry for the grammar lesson, but it is one my pet peeves as well...
 




actually, dopeyluver was correct and it is you who are wrong.

According to
oxford dictionaries , i is the subject of a verb, while me is the object of a verb. A quick test is to rewrite the sentence without the additional noun.

In the example given by dopeyluver, one would say "the waiter ignored me" (with me serving as the object of the verb ignored). Alternatively, to use i, one would have to say "i was ignored by the waiter" (where i is the subject of the sentence, which has been rewritten in the passive voice).

Sorry for the grammar lesson, but it is one my pet peeves as well...

thank you!
 
Hey Whoa There! Now you've gone too far! Impuning the value of idiotic, self-indulgent worthless treatments! My hot rocks, mine! Love those spa treatments! I know they are worthless, but it's my vacation and I'll rock if I want to! Any more remarks like that and I'm stopping this ship right now!

So my DH & I went out to a resort in West Virginia last week, and one of the spa treatments was described as using "light touch and non-touch techniques". When I researched more about the treatment, evidently many of the "practioners" ascend to such capable heights as to be able to restore "universal healing life force" through these "non-touch" techniques. So.....you get to pay about $160 for 50 minutes of someone NOT TOUCHING YOU, but focusing on your life force.

Tell me that doesn't beat the hot rocks......

I only wonder when the DCL spas will figure this one out and add it to the menu!
 
So my DH & I went out to a resort in West Virginia last week, and one of the spa treatments was described as using "light touch and non-touch techniques". When I researched more about the treatment, evidently many of the "practioners" ascend to such capable heights as to be able to restore "universal healing life force" through these "non-touch" techniques. So.....you get to pay about $160 for 50 minutes of someone NOT TOUCHING YOU, but focusing on your life force.

Tell me that doesn't beat the hot rocks......

I only wonder when the DCL spas will figure this one out and add it to the menu!

Oh yeah! There will be hordes of people lining up for the "non-touch technique" massages!
 
Non-touch technique...???? They may be on to something! I should open one of those!! That's a brilliant million $$ idea!!! People go nuts over stuff like that!!!
 
So.....you get to pay about $160 for 50 minutes of someone NOT TOUCHING YOU, but focusing on your life force.

Well I'll be darned. I learn something new everyday! I found a YouTube video and it looks most odd.

A bit like "The Music Man," and the think system.




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Gracious. How did I get eight pages behind?

Despite being aggravated by the fact that Disney's Photo costs are outrageous, and I am now thinking of sneaking a spy camera on board for this purpose...it really bugs me when people go the last night of the cruise, find all of their pictures at Shutters, lay them out all over the floor (so you have to climb over them to pass) and then TAKE PICTURES OF THEIR PICTURES!!!:headache:

Usually they are the same dimwits standing next to you at Shutters muttering to each other. "How can we find ourselves? How do we know its us?" :scared:

Yes, seriously, we were on the Magic the last cruise, and in the area next to Shutters, where the stairwell is, were people sitting on the floor, pictures all spread out, taking pictures of the ones they liked. They were trying to stay out of sight of the Shutters employees, which they could do on the last night, since the employees are all bombarded with people legally buying their pictures and CDs...:sad2:

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Then again, they could have decided they didn't like how their pictures came out, and decided to find families that looked similar but better.... I could hear it now "Yeah, that's how good we looked before we ate ourselves silly on cruise food..."

Trying to cheat DCL out of the money due them for the photos? This is tantamount to thievery. I'll bet these are the same folks who think anything posted on the internet is in the public domain and they can download and use it any way they want.

Maureen, I think our Husbands think alike there. This thread was the only way I could get him on the DIS Board

*insert raspberry smiley here...*

I've told my DH about enough of the flakey posts here that he calls it the "Ditzy" boards. He suggests a pithy reply for me to post now and then, but can't be bothered to read this site. He's too involved with footbrawl boards and guitar forums. To each their own.

"Ditzy boards..." I like that.

I have my photography, railfanning and amateur radio forums, but I still get in here occasionally. I'm even posting in our own cruise thread.

I think we need to recruit a professional linguist to the discussion. I'm sure there must be the misapplication of innate rules of grammar at play.

My father and grandfather were both writers. I'm sure both are rolling over in their graves at what has happened to the English language, especially here in the US. I think what really upsets me the most is how people can turn a perfectly good noun into an adjective or verb.

The worst I have heard recently is "destinated," (What kind of a word is that?) meaning having arrived somewhere. What ever happened to "I'm at my destination?" :headache:

Okay, you self-important weasels, listen up, because I'm only going to type this once: If I find out you've ignored the brief lifeboat lineup, I'll personally hunt you down, tie you into a genuine Abandon Ship Vest from the Navy or Coast Guard, and yank those crotch straps so tight you'll have lumps in your throat. I will drag you, squealing in a very high pitch, by your ankles, head banging kaTHUMP with each step, up or down as many sets of stairs as separate your cabin from the boat deck, and discuss the importance of federally mandated activities that are designed TO SAVE YOUR WORTHLESS LIFE.

You cannot practice staying alive too often. You cannot ignore the importance of showing darling little Lyzzbethhe how to wear her vest and do what the crew tells her to when the ship hits the span and seawater is spraying out of the crack in the elevator doors and you're in Vista Spa getting hot rocks spread on your back (of all the idiotic, self-indulgent, worthless "treatments"). Little Lyzzbethhe deserves to grow up, even without mother who knows she's too important to follow rules.

I have been through a lot more abandon-ship drills than the few the cruise industry has invited me to. I take each of them seriously. In 1971 I sat at a picnic table with a guy who described being on the Coast Guard's largest class of cutter, which name I've forgotten, in the Bering Sea -- after it had struck a rock. (Who would think the Coast Guard would hit a rock? But it wasn't charted.) You've seen Deadliest Catch, you know what the seas can be like with hurricane-force winds driving sprindrift so cold and hard that it flashes to ice when it hits the steel railings and plastic life-raft tubs. Whole compartments -- and part of the engine room -- were flooded, with shocking-cold water surging from port to starbord while crewmen in dungarees tried to wedge timbers and plywood and mattresses against the ripped steel plates.

With shoulders slumped, he told us about the months of nightmares, about the times he'd break into a sweat, his heart racing, when he heard a dumpster being dropped by a garbage truck, or some other daily bang or squeal. Half the crew was hoisted from the ship for their own safety as it crawled for days through frigid seas towards a lee shore and eventually a cove where they could run it onto the beach if the flooding worsened. Several guys were later admitted to psych wards at Public Health Service and Navy hospitals. I guess they're as okay as most of the soldiers coming back from Afghanistan. And they were alive because they trained and drilled and followed the instructions of their officers.

So I learned to take seriously those drills on my small cutter, the Resolute. And I participate alertly on cruises. And I tell Lyzzbethhe's sweet mommie to shut her pie hole and stow her cell phone and listen up because I don't want her distracting deserving people from knowing how to keep themselves alive in an emergency.

Make all the cracks you want while standing with your back to the bulkhead on the Promenade Deck, but when that guy with a Day-Glo vest starts talking through a little bullhorn, listen like you'll have to recite it at the Oscars. And if you can't keep Lyzzbethhe from whining about missing her nap, I'll be happy to help you.

Kudos for this post. This is something EVERY passenger should pay very close attention to...

Yes, I know that question well. I like to say, "We left them home so we could enjoy ourselves for a change."

Good comeback. Something else I need to remember...

I'm no expert on boards. By my post count you can tell I'm still a newbie. Being "new at boards" is honestly no excuse to not use the search function, look in a FAQ thread, or I don't know read the titles of posts on that same page to see if it may pertain to what you are trying to locate! I swear. If I see one more "Cruise newbie", "New to cruising", or "1st time need all the information I could have well looked at the post under me" thread I'm going to go crazy!!! And then they wonder why they are directed to FAQ's or *gasp* google to find the answer to their absolutly ridiculous question. "Will I be able to eat on board?" "Can someone tell me the names of the restaurants on board?", "How will I know when I'm allowed to eat?", "I'm having a mental breakdown because I don't understand WHY I CAN'T SAVE SEATS for my party of 60" Geesh! I feel like people just don't want to find anything out for themselves.

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Thank you. :)

Ex Techie - thanks for the more detailed info on the emergency calls. I'm always fascinated to watch the crew and what they are REALLY doing to operate and maintain the ship.

Personally, it drives me nuts that people don't realize that the crew is there primarily to do just that - operate the ship. (And the "cruise staff" is there to make the passengers happy.) The Captains aren't hired for their sparkling personalities, but because they have experience in and are responsible for the lives of over 4000 people at any given time. These ships are bigger than some of our smaller aircraft carriers - and the new ones even moreso. They aren't glorified cab drivers. (Just read any of the accounts of what the navigation up and back through Tracy Arm is entailing for proof of that.) I laugh when I hear people complain about what goes on while underway to maintain the ship such that it mars their view or cruise experience somehow, or that the Captain didn't mingle enough. I know the crew has jobs (or at least, THESE jobs) only because of the paying passengers and they chose to be on a pleasure cruise ship, but still - they have to just roll their eyes often at the attitudes of some of their guests.

The trip up the arm must be great while standing on deck, but what's going on out of sight of the passengers is something altogether. My training in the US Navy was in navigation and while we didn't have the benefit of all of today's whiz-bang electronic devices like GPS, we still managed to get where we were going.

There's no substitute for good old-fashioned navigation. What happens if the power fails?

I call it "Maude face" (thanks to Rants from Mommyland, makes me laugh) and employ it regularly, not only on my own children, but even on other people's kids, yep <gasp> I'm the mom who has no problem tell your sweet little Sydny that if she hits my kid again with anything, I'll yank her out of the pool and take her to a lifeguard, regardless of the threat from Mom of assault charges. I also trip kids running through the halls at 2:00am screaming, and tell teenagers to watch their language in the elevators when they thing they should channel sailors (or how they THINK sailors talk). It makes me happy!

I spent 20 years in the Navy and another 22 around it as a dependent. I KNOW how sailors talk and if I hear any kid on a cruise talk like that, I WILL have something to say.

I am a relative newbie on this board, but even I have grievances. I think the posts that bother me the most, besides the "Will I like the Magic?" queries, are people who post passport questions.

Why would someone ever rely on the advice of board members as to whether or not they will need a passport? People, there is a big office called the DEPARTMENT OF STATE where all your questions can be answered with authority.

I run into this on my photography forums. People are always asking copyright and usage questions when they could go right to the US Copyright Office website for the answers or to a copyright attorney if there's an issue with one of their own images.
 
Gracious. How did I get eight pages behind?





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Thank you. :)

I'm sorry. I'll try to remember that:thumbsup2
 




Actually, DOPEYLUVER was correct and it is you who are wrong.

According to
Oxford Dictionaries , I is the subject of a verb, while me is the object of a verb. A quick test is to rewrite the sentence without the additional noun.

In the example given by DOPEYLUVER, one would say "The waiter ignored me" (with me serving as the object of the verb ignored). Alternatively, to use I, one would have to say "I was ignored by the waiter" (where I is the subject of the sentence, which has been rewritten in the passive voice).

Sorry for the grammar lesson, but it is one my pet peeves as well...

Sorry I never doubt teachers but this is one I remember from my AP english test. I remember it so clearly as I was confused up to the time of the test. So my AP English teacher and I sat down for about 2 hours the day before the test and it was about this topic. This was on my AP English test and I had to make sure I did not forget when using terms like my friends and I and such. If I had put as my answer my friends and me or my parents and me insted of my parents and I, I would have gotten those parts of the exam wrong. I did score perfect on the test thanks to my teacher. So that is my understanding. Now enough bickering about that, back to the stroller use on a 963 foot long ship.
 
I love this thread! I've steadfastly avoided it for a while now but it kept popping up and finally I had to see what it was all about. I have not laughed this hard in a LONG time, and it makes me feel indescribably better to know that I'm not the only one bothered by mannerless children, etc.

About "...and me" versus "...and I," DOPEYLUVER *is* correct. The easy way to test which pronoun should be used is to remove the other person/pronoun from the sentence and see if it still makes sense. For example, "My husband and I are going on a cruise for our honeymoon" versus "My husband and me are going on a cruise..." Take out "my husband" and look at the sentence; the one with "I" sounds right and therefore is correct (with a little verb adjustment, of course).

But "and I" is not always correct - consider something like "Lyzzbethhe is coming to Golden Mickeys with Kynydy and I." Take out Kynydy and you're left with "...with I." 'Nuff said.

And if you don't want to believe me, will you believe the Oxford Dictionary? http://oxforddictionaries.com/page/grammartipiorme

Another peeve (and I apologize for namelessly calling out a fellow Curmudgeon) is the rampant misuse of apostrophe-S. As I once saw on Facebook, I think: An apostrophe does NOT mean "Look out, there's an S coming!" (And a big DITTO on the your/their/to misuse. When it's your native language, there really isn't any reason to get this wrong.)

Finally, I think the whole bit about adding an S to things like Palo is a regional thing - upper Midwest, specifically. Can't explain it, but I'm pretty sure that's what it is. Drives me nuts, too, though.

(And yes, actually, I am an English major and a grammar nerd...please don't flame me!)
 

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