Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[hereforthechurros]

Can/will WDW open more resorts without increasing park availability?

 

[SarahC97]

Can/will WDw open more resorts without increasing park availability?

This is what I'm wondering too!

 

[Eric Smith]

Can/will WDW open more resorts without increasing park availability?

We'll know pretty soon. One of the POPs open next week.

 

[samsonjs]

If resorts are booked so full that they continually start meeting their capacity limit for pools and such - with these types of wait times, perhaps time to spread people out and open more resorts.

If this is just a spring break bump, they probably won't. But if it starts again like this in the summer....

If you think about it, CSR is a convention resort. There aren’t any conventions so the people filling it are vacationers that want pool access.

 

[zumfelde]

Hey Disney, maybe it’s time to open more things up and increase capacity. Maybe then you could start selling annual passes again. Hey a guy can dream right?

Why would Disney want to sell annual passes while the parks have limited capacity. I hope they don't start selling them until the parks can operate at regular capacity.

 

[Kerry1957]

Yes, and many of them are not major tourist destinations. And again the reason for the need for vaccination is that yellow fever is spread by mosquitoes not just humans. I have been to South Africa as well as parts of Asia & all over Europe and never needed a vaccination. So yeah, very FEW countries out of the 195 countries require a mandatory vaccination...

A quick check shows 130 countries require some type of yellow fever vaccination proof for entry. Many are only required if you have visited an at-risk country before arrival, but 130 out of 195 is not very few. For example, Australia, Argentina, Brazil, China, India, Singapore, and the UAE all require proof of vaccination if you have been to one of the 40 at-risk countries.

 

[Marionnette]

Why would Disney want to sell annual passes while the parks have limited capacity. I hope they don't start selling them until the parks can operate at regular capacity.

It looks like it was your typical Disney IT SNAFU

https://chipandco.com/disney-world-annual-passes-are-now-on-sale-in-uk-423145/
"Update: It looks like Stitch is up to his old tricks again. Unfortunately UK residents are not able to purchase Annual Passes at this time.

Disney shared with us this official annoucement.

This web page is out-of-date and we are working on updating it. Sales of new annual passes remain temporarily paused as part of our overall efforts to manage capacity with a focus on health and safety. With reduced attendance limits, we are continuing to focus on existing Passholders for the time being"

 

[gatour]

This is more about revenue then anything else, which I agree is going to take a long time since they are going to have recoup what they lost first before they can really start earning.

A few weeks ago Royal Caribbean Group Lead also said they expect all of their ships in their various fleets would be operational by the end of the year.

However financially I agree the financial implications for both lines and other lines will take a year or two to work out. For cruises that are being cancelled Royal has been offering choices between taking refunds or offering future credit credits that are good for the next couple of years. For cruises that haven't yet been cancelled, they are offering a "lift and shift" option where you can transfer your booking to similar cruise in the future.

This means their future revenue that will reported during the time will be depressed as they have already reported the revenue during covid.

 

[tink2424]

A quick check shows 130 countries require some type of yellow fever vaccination proof for entry. Many are only required if you have visited an at-risk country before arrival, but 130 out of 195 is not very few. For example, Australia, Argentina, Brazil, China, India, Singapore, and the UAE all require proof of vaccination if you have been to one of the 40 at-risk countries.

The key word is if you have been to the 40 at risk countries... So you only need it for 40 countries out of 195 so that is not anywhere near the majority. And outside of a few South American countries the countries that are at risk are not large tourist destinations. So saying anyone who travels internationally is used to a vaccine passport is just not true.

I'm going to end this here as I don't think it is worth arguing with people over and is not the point of this thread.

 

[TikiTikiFan]

https://blogmickey.com/2021/03/imag...7GOKeL2PEn1iv91oT3KfPBVmi2rnxyXywQJz_m6jqm-Y0
Okay, I want a painting of this on my wall!

 

[hereforthechurros]

Is this new or have I just glossed over it? Not sure anyone will listen, but it's appreciated as so many large groups don't seem to know what to do in the queues.

Disney World Implements Limit of Four Guests Per Physical Distancing Marker
https://blogmickey.com/2021/03/disn...f-four-guests-per-physical-distancing-marker/

 

[mrsap]

Is this new or have I just glossed over it? Not sure anyone will listen, but it's appreciated as so many large groups don't seem to know what to do in the queues.

Disney World Implements Limit of Four Guests Per Physical Distancing Marker
https://blogmickey.com/2021/03/disn...f-four-guests-per-physical-distancing-marker/

I assume it is new because it was posted on multiple blogs today.

 

[J-Dog]

I don't think travel is going to come back that quickly. People will probably be mostly vaccinated by the end of the summer and travel should start ramping up in the fall. It'll probably take years for travel to get back to the level it was before the pandemic. I don't think there is going to be a flood of people heading to Disney this summer who haven't already booked trips.

I disagree. Anecdotally, we are planning on booking almost immediately as soon as mask restrictions are lifted (whenever that is). We aren't booking anything until we know more about easing restrictions. And I doubt that I'm the only one...

 

[Sarahslay]

I bet these dates for resort openings move up. Once everyone is eligible for the vaccine in May, I bet travel restrictions get amended by the CDC. They know that people are going to travel this summer and they will have no option but to ease up on restrictions.

They are doing work around BC right now, I don't think they are thinking they are opening early. Also, just because "they" say everyone will be eligible for the vaccine this May it doesn't mean all areas will be getting them out to everyone. It also doesn't mean that mass amounts of people will be filing in to get a vaccine. If the numbers are still relatively low for vaccines then there is no reason to ease restrictions, those don't need to be eased up until a majority of people have immunity/a vaccine.

 

[Sarahslay]

I assume it is new because it was posted on multiple blogs today!

This put in to effect/announced weeks ago. I don't even know now, but I know it was before I went Presidents day weekend.

 

[mrsap]

This put in to effect/announced weeks ago. I don't even know now, but I know it was before I went Presidents day weekend.

Maybe the signs themselves are new??

 

[Eric Smith]

I disagree. Anecdotally, we are planning on booking almost immediately as soon as mask restrictions are lifted (whenever that is). We aren't booking anything until we know more about easing restrictions. And I doubt that I'm the only one...

There are also a ton of people who were hurt financially over the last year and others who will be apprehensive of traveling for a long time due to COVID. It'll be similar to the effect from 9/11.

 

[Sarahslay]

Maybe the signs themselves are new??

I remember seeing the sign posted on my presidents day weekend trip, I think they were put up at the same time as the announcement honestly. However, I know they weren't really enforcing it then, but I saw CMs enforcing it this weekend. One was going up to groups in line for Spaceship Earth and telling them to spread out, physically moving a few people who refused so their group was in groups of 4 on markers. They started to move back in to a large mass (it was like 20 people lumped together) and she turned around and was like "please follow the posted rules, I don't want to have to remove you from this line" and they spread back out to how she put them.

 

[J-Dog]

There are also a ton of people who were hurt financially over the last year and others who will be apprehensive of traveling for a long time due to COVID. It'll be similar to the effect from 9/11.

I don't disagree with that at all. Many people are lacking the means right now.

But you stated that people have likely already booked vacations for this summer - IMO, I think that there are plenty of people (myself included) that are holding-off simply based on the fluidity of the current situation, and will book with short notice if things improve.

 

[mrsap]

This put in to effect/announced weeks ago. I don't even know now, but I know it was before I went Presidents day weekend.

Here is another Report from today:

Disney World Specifies How Many People Can Stand on Distancing Markers