Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

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Which I get, but I am looking at the new Cirque show for my December trip and it doesn't look like they are doing that at all. You can see some row one's gone in upper deck and the row behind are available. Same for top row with some available right below that.

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Well... you're dealing with a bankrupt company here. They're not exactly gonna be paying someone to block seats off for shows that might not even happen. They can just move people around later if need be and offer a refund if they don't like it.
 
Same, as far as being disappointed.

As far as the allocation, I wonder which bucket the CMs and family members pull from? Day guests, I would assume. And, if the day guest bucket maxes out, are they really going to turn CMs and their families away at the gate?

I just hope they ARE included in the capacities, and not in addition to.






Well, for me, who will be there over Labor Day weekend....it could be crazytown. I'm hoping not.






Parks look decent today. Hollywood studios looks particularly pleasant, so I am hoping Wednesdays are just the ticket, as we have HS 9/9.
I'm pretty sure CM and their guests spots are being pulled from the theme park tickets
 
I wonder if we will get some character meals back soon with the AE deal, especially Princesses.

Princesses with facemasks at Akerhaus or CRT?

I really doubt there won’t be more character experiences until the pandemic is over. I expect some new and safe scenarios to unfold soon.
Imho no. Not after the battle with the actors union. I rather believe hell will freeze over before Disney allows face masks on any of the characters.
 

Just saw a ride through of RotR from today and wow, its in bad shape. Figures I’ll be there in a week and if I’m lucky enough to get on, it’ll be a shoddy experience

Haven't done ROTR yet, been trying to avoid spoilers like the dickens, I have been spoiled a bit from videos and posts. I think vloggers tend to forget some people don't get there every year and may not have had the opportunity to experience it. I usually fast forward but sometimes, it's too late.

Having not experienced it, I may not know the difference either way. But, it would just about break my heart if it's a terrible ride.
 
I read somewhere on the boards that CMs said the BC Marketplace closure was for a refurb of some sort/to remove the Coca Cola Freestyle machines. So, they are moving some items to the solarium in the meantime. Only expected to last a few weeks.
Moving the quick service to the solarium from BC Marketplace makes sense right now given how little space BC Marketplace has. It stops people getting something to eat from creating a unsafe situation there.
Not to be a Debbie Downer, but right after 9/11, there were plenty of unplanned "refurbishments" that popped up. Perhaps social distancing could be a part of it, but I'd bet that whatever they set up at the Solarium will have a lower operating cost than the Beach Club Marketplace. Most, if not all, previously planned refurbishments have been put off for the time being (unless they were already well underway).
 
He was definitely in MK on Sunday - I met him near Big Thunder around 12:30.
I’ve never been one for character pics and autographs but for josh I’d make an exception :blush:

Love that the higher ups have a pulse on the parks day to day right now, good bad or ugly. Data is king but hands-on experience/first-hand knowledge is queen!
 
Just for clarification regarding Actor's Equity CMs. I know there's been some confusion surrounding which roles are AE, what that means for shows and characters in the parks. Not all face characters or Character Performers (any CM portraying a character in any way) are AE -- in fact, most are not.

To be an AE CM, you must not only be portraying a character (doesn't have to be a famous Disney character, it could just be a Hollywood director from the '30s for example :rolleyes:) but also performing some sort of speciality skill at the same time. It's that specialty skill or talent that distinguishes the AE CMs from other Entertainment CMs. This might include singing, advanced choreography, improv/stand-up comedy, or "stunts" (acts like what you see IJESS or in FoTLK). A speciality skill could also be something like puppeteering, which you see in Finding Nemo: The Musical. Advanced Acting is even considered a specialty skill (albeit with strict rules) if the Actor has to portray the character but also recite a certain amount of memorized, scripted lines at the same time. Basically, if the skill requires extensive, individualized training that cannot be easily obtained with TWDC (in other words, you have to study it), it's likely considered a specialty skill. That mix is what makes a CM "Equity" and there are very strict rules as to what Disney can and cannot do with those rules.

What are some other AE CM roles? As alluded to, Streetmosphere characters (like Citizens of Hollywood) are AE CMs. The comedian(s) portraying each of the live interactive monsters at MILF is/are also AE CMs. BatB also uses AE CMs, given the advanced choreography and acting/reciting memorized lines required in each performance. So yes, a face character can be in AE, but portraying a character doesn't automatically get you in. You have to do something else "special." You don't necessarily even have to be performing in a theme park. The BW entertainers were all AE at one point (I *think* they still are).

One common point of confusion: parade characters (such as those in FoF or any of the cavalcades) are not AE, because they're usually only portraying a character. There's no extensive "acting" (usually any character audio is pre-recorded) and most of the dancing is done by background dancers not portraying any character and those routines generally do not fall under the classification of "advanced choreography" anyways. The dances are actually surprisingly easy to learn (take it from a guy with two left feet who still learned the MISI dance from a friend who performs in it).

ETA: Before these two questions come up: JC Skippers are NOT Actor's Equity. First of all, they're not (at least supposed to be) improvising or be stand-up comics. They're supposed to recite from a script with several options for each scene. That script is written in a way that brings it below AE's requirements for advanced acting/lengthy memorization. They're also Attractions CM (because they operate the attraction), not Entertainment CMs. Skippers are actually quite limited in what they can and can't say and what they can and can't do. That doesn't mean that some don't bend the rules (and they take a risk when doing it), but theoretically a Skipper with tons of acting/performance experience should be just as good as a Skipper with zero acting/performance training. All of the "spiel training" is done in house (as part of On the Job Training for any new Skipper). After all, public speaking is technically not the same as performing/acting.

Second question: when are the AE shows coming back? Our favorite word: soon. Supposedly, they're trying to get them all back up before/around/or shortly after (heard all three) Labor Day.
 
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Wow, they’ve really scaled back the resort reopening plans. I’m surprised by no YS but I’m even more surprised that they’re essentially re-closing BC Marketplace and that they’re opting for a bar-only model for Hurricane Hanna’s. Just goes to show resort traffic is not even close to what they expected.
Many have touched on this, but this is such a tough line to walk for WDW. It seems based on their research, surveys, data that those who want to come to will come despite the virus and therefore put up with lack of options. And those who don't want to come because of the virus won't regardless of what's opened or closed. But what about the third bank of people who would consider a trip if it was worth it... but no signature (or little signature) dining, no fireworks, characters, parades, limited transport are pushing them to hold off or go elsewhere. Instead of making a push for more visitors they've resigned themselves to ride this wave.

Those saying this is a correction (crowds, cost) that's been needed for a long time may be misguided. If WDW was fine to take in even less money in exchange for more visitors, word of mouth, etc. they could be offering a lot more in the way of discounts and incentives. Instead they seem to be banking on running lean then pushing things (and prices) back to normal the moment they can rather than bending to a new normal.
 
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Haven't done ROTR yet, been trying to avoid spoilers like the dickens, I have been spoiled a bit from videos and posts. I think vloggers tend to forget some people don't get there every year and may not have had the opportunity to experience it. I usually fast forward but sometimes, it's too late.

Having not experienced it, I may not know the difference either way. But, it would just about break my heart if it's a terrible ride.

Thats why I tried to not mention specifics other than what was already common knowledge. Ive seen the ride through’s, but I wouldnt want it spoiled for me if I didn’t want it to be. Its not a movie where most people have more of an ability to make 3-4 hours out of their day and go, especially on weekends. Going to WDW and DLR isnt exactly a 3-4 hour day trip from much of the country
 
Things change with this attraction daily if not hourly. What may be problematic today isn’t what tomorrow will bring.

Yeah but these issues recently arent what was plaguing the ride in the beginning. I never heard any stories of these types of issues being the reason the ride went down back in January and February. Whether or not its from the lightning strike, or Disney Imagineering just not being ready to make this type of advanced ride system
 
These HHN tweets have me thinking they’re setting something up. Whether its a drive thu experience, a toned down HHN “event” where a couple of near complete houses are transitioned into a day house ala Walking Dead in Hollywood or how they did the Stranger Things house on Stranger things day. Or maybe just theming around the parks themselves.
 
These HHN tweets have me thinking they’re setting something up. Whether its a drive thu experience, a toned down HHN “event” where a couple of near complete houses are transitioned into a day house ala Walking Dead in Hollywood or how they did the Stranger Things house on Stranger things day. Or maybe just theming around the parks themselves.
Someone just posted an update in the News thread that it looks like it’s going to be virtual this year.
 
These HHN tweets have me thinking they’re setting something up. Whether its a drive thu experience, a toned down HHN “event” where a couple of near complete houses are transitioned into a day house ala Walking Dead in Hollywood or how they did the Stranger Things house on Stranger things day. Or maybe just theming around the parks themselves.
It looks like maybe they are planning some sort of virtual experience?

 
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