Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[Jrb1979]

I live in NY and the truth is it’s not any better here. See so many people not wearing mask and just not caring. I don’t think anything can be done as some people are always just going to refuse to comply.

There is many things that can be done. First you can fine people for not complying. Second you can start rolling back opening things and limiting where people can go. Only allow patios to be open. Close theme parks and beaches.

 

[glocker]

I live in NY and the truth is it’s not any better here. See so many people not wearing mask and just not caring. I don’t think anything can be done as some people are always just going to refuse to comply.

Where in NY? In my county, I would say that 98% of people are compliant.

 

[cakebaker]

Chapek never said they needed to operate at profit at the opening. What Chapek was saying is he wouldn't open the parks if it didn't lead to losing less money than they are now. The goal is to slow down the bleeding until you get to the point that the business is not only losing less money, but profitable.

I didn’t say he said a profit. I said he stated they had to make a positive contribution. If it costs you more to operate than it does to stay closed, that’s not a positive contribution.

 

[SarahC97]

I am coming from NY on the 19th and am not worried about the quarantine at all. For one I and my wife are lucky as we are working from home so it will not effect that. But also the 14 day quarantine is completely unenforceable as states who have tried so far such as Hawaii have found it to be unconstitutional by the federal courts***. So at best they can recommend a quarantine but no way can they force anybody to do it or punish them if they don’t.

***citation needed

 

[cakebaker]

I am going to agree with the post about Pete and concerns with the area. I would have thought that with our Orlando news constantly bombarding us with statistics/numbers that everyone would comply. What we are still witnessing is no different at the grocery stores from weeks ago. I am not sure what it is going to take for a more widespread compliance in central Florida, but as of now...it ain't happening to my eyes.

Give the orders some teeth. Set up stiff fines and enforce them. I agree, some people just aren’t going to comply without it costing them. If that doesn’t work, then start shutting down. It’s painful, but it’s better than just letting this thing run rampant.

But....There wasn’t a single state that started reopening early that actually met federal guidelines with a 14 day decline in rates. So maybe, even before going after citizens, the states start following guidelines too. If people want their states to open, do what has to be done for it to happen.

I’m sick of sitting at home because people can’t behave.

 

[yulilin3]

I stay as far away as possible from strangers in public that don't have them on. I just think it's a different situation. Do we know they didn't discuss it first?

Maybe we should ask @yulilin3 since she was the person with him?

It wasn't me!!
No seriously what did i miss, I've been gone from the page most of the day

 

[midnight star]

I’m sick of sitting at home because people can’t behave.

THIS

 

[cakebaker]

***citation needed

As I understand it, it hasn’t been found unconstitutional. The DOJ simply filed a statement of interest claiming in their opinion it was. And that leads us down the road of pure politics that we are not allowed to discuss here.

 

[0FF TO NEVERLAND]

There is many things that can be done. First you can fine people for not complying. Second you can start rolling back opening things and limiting where people can go. Only allow patios to be open. Close theme parks and beaches.

Yeah let’s just destroy the lives and livelihoods of the people actually complying because other people can’t listen.

If your in a store, wear a mask. If your close to someone, wear a mask.

I see people complaining when people who are more then 6’ away not wearing masks outside.

I’m all for complying but some people who wanna just always shut things down don’t even comprehend the terrible things that are happening to owners, workers, and their cities if nothing opens up again. While some people can just sit home and work, a huge portion can’t and rely on these things to feed their families

Do it safety and don’t punish the people who listen cause of the people who don’t

 

[SaintsManiac]

It wasn't me!!
No seriously what did i miss, I've been gone from the page most of the day

There was some interest in the fact that you and Pete didn't have masks on in the Monday video. Because he's so adamant about people wearing them. I didn't think it was a big deal.

 

[andyman8]

It wasn't me!!
No seriously what did i miss, I've been gone from the page most of the day

Oh just people arguing about CM testing, delaying the open, if the spike is really "that bad," bugs with the ADR release the morning, oh and the on-property McDonalds reopened today (with exercise bikes that can recharge your phone).

 

[hereforthechurros]

Circling back to this post.

I have concerns about the hard opening time. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me. For one, with the shortened hours, knowing I can deduct another 20-30 minutes off the time I am paying for is a bit of an annoyance, but just that...an annoyance.

However, logistically, it doesn't make a lot of sense either. By opening the park 20-30 minutes early and allowing people in, it only spreads out those entrances and helps for social distancing. Maybe you only let in 50 people every 5 minutes, then once they get dispersed, another 50 people, and so on. By keeping everyone at the gates until 9 am on the dot, it creates an even bigger logjam than would have been there if you just started funneling people in a little at a time.

On a typical day, anyone could go to Magic Kingdom. Full resorts creating full buses and cars full of people off-site and locals would come pouring in early, creating crowds to get in. Now resorts are maybe 25-30% full with buses only running may 15%-20% capacity. AND they must have a park reservation. Things will be very spaced out compared to what we're used to.

 

[SarahC97]

As I understand it, it hasn’t been found unconstitutional. The DOJ simply filed a statement of interest claiming in their opinion it was. And that leads us down the road of pure politics that we are not allowed to discuss here.

I just hadn't heard of any federal cases that ruled quarantines as unconstitutional. Thanks for the clarification.

 

[apinknightmare]

But also the 14 day quarantine is completely unenforceable as states who have tried so far such as Hawaii have found it to be unconstitutional by the federal courts. So at best they can recommend a quarantine but no way can they force anybody to do it or punish them if they don’t.

Yes, I think at this point we're all aware that there are plenty of selfish, entitled people in this country who think rules don't apply to them and don't care at all about the health and well-being of other people or the fact that their selfishness and entitlement will keep making the need for these quarantine measures necessary.

Hopefully the vast majority of people choosing to travel now are responsible and considerate and that the ones who aren't either stay healthy or if not, don't spread their disease around too much.

 

[yulilin3]

There was some interest in the fact that you and Pete didn't have masks on in the Monday video. Because he's so adamant about people wearing them. I didn't think it was a big deal.

Ah yeah, when I went in the room he and corey took theirs off, i asked them if they were ok with me taking it off as well and they said yes.
Ive been going out to crowded places since curfew was lifted, i take care to not touch things and an waking myhands or sanitizing them constantly so i wasn't concerned
Personally. I live by myself and don't have any underlying conditions so I'm not concerned with catching it, I'm of belief that we all will be exposed to it sooner or later. Obviously just personal opinion, if i would've felt unsafe i would've asked them to wear the mask

 

[SaintsManiac]

Ah yeah, when I went in the room he and corey took theirs off, i asked them if they were ok with me taking it off as well and they said yes.
Ive been going out to crowded places since curfew was lifted, i take care to not touch things and an waking myhands or sanitizing them constantly so i wasn't concerned
Personally. I live by myself and don't have any underlying conditions so I'm not concerned with catching it, I'm of belief that we all will be exposed to it sooner or later. Obviously just personal opinion, if i would've felt unsafe i would've asked them to wear the mask

Thanks for taking the time to explain it. I honestly didn't even think anything of it!

 

[tlmadden73]

I live in NY and the truth is it’s not any better here. See so many people not wearing mask and just not caring. I don’t think anything can be done as some people are always just going to refuse to comply.

There's a point where we need to just have to know it is not going away and deal with it like we deal with other seasonal viruses with a few more precautions.

Wear a mask, social distance and just know that cases will continue to go up. Thus far (thankfully) hospitalizations and deaths are pretty flat.

The people that WANT to go to a theme park and WANT it to be open will be the ones more likely to wear masks (over say people socializing in a bar).

Universal has been open for a month now -- are there outbreaks stemming from there? I think going outside in a giant theme park with limited attendance is probably safer than going to a bar, or a grocery store, or a home improvement store no matter what the numbers of cases are.

I guess I wonder where these new cases are coming from? Just more people going back to work? The protests? People just having parties?

 

[cakebaker]

There was some interest in the fact that you and Pete didn't have masks on in the Monday video. Because he's so adamant about people wearing them. I didn't think it was a big deal.

My point was that if you’re going to preach to others to follow guidelines and blame them for a possible delay in opening, you should follow them yourself. My comment was about Pete, no one else.

 

[AmberMV]

FYI there are still many dining reservations available for this coming weekend at the resorts for those curious (including Toppolino's character breakfast at Riviera), and you can now book those online.

 

[SaintsManiac]

My point was that if you’re going to preach to others to follow guidelines and blame them for a possible delay in opening, you should follow them yourself. My comment was about Pete, no one else.

And MY thoughts are that it was 3 people in a room that probably decided it was ok amongst themselves.