Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[tlmadden73]

I believe attitudes will change in October. I think people will want to move forward. I also think Disneyland will open next month or at the least give an opening date. Just putting it out there.

People have wanted to move forward for months. Attitudes are already changing .. a LOT of people would be back to normal if they were "allowed" to. I'd easily go back to work at my office but my company won't let me .. even when I'd be like one of 2-3 people there.

In most cases, besides wearing masks when you go out, things ARE back to normal (from a going out and about standpoint) besides a few businesses not being able to be open yet (such as Disneyland in California, gyms, bars and movie theatres (in a lot of states), etc. Schools are going back to in-person learning in many states (if they weren't already) and football (at all levels) is starting up in one way or another (some with fans even!).

Obviously the capacity and demand isn't there yet, but that will come back eventually too as more and more people venture out (which they are doing)

My guess is Universal will be the first to start adding more people to their parks ... then Sea World. Disney will be last.

My guess is they will also be the first park to drop the mask requirement as well (though I doubt ANYTIME soon) .. or at least only make it mandatory inside or in a queue.

 

[New Mouse]

Does everyone realize these parks are not regularly hitting exisiting capacity so increasing capacity would have 0 effect on anything except an odd weekend or holiday?

 

[Noparking]

The mask statement by the governor and what Disney sets are two different things. If Disney has a mandate they won’t drop it because the governor isn’t fining people. Masks aren’t leaving Disney anytime soon. Everything is going safely and they are operating. Why would they risk an outbreak in their park?? The governor can’t force Disney to not have masks at their park. The one thing Disney should do is make a statement that they will still be required because if not those anti virus people will take the governors word that they can get away with it and Disney will have a lot of issues with people.

 

[Mit88]

Does everyone realize these parks are not regularly hitting exisiting capacity so increasing capacity would have 0 effect on anything except an odd weekend or holiday?

Exactly, so what difference does It make other than have the CMs in the mindset that crowds COULD get larger. Raising capacity would just be another step towards future preparedness. We’ve seen how things get a little dicey every time there’s been an influx of guests. This would just allow CMs to mentally prepare for the return of guests if/when that may be. It’s better to set the capacity a little higher periodically before the crowds are ready to come back rather than wait until the demand grows beyond their capability of controlling such crowds.

 

[Mit88]

The mask statement by the governor and what Disney sets are two different things. If Disney has a mandate they won’t drop it because the governor isn’t fining people. Masks aren’t leaving Disney anytime soon. Everything is going safely and they are operating. Why would they risk an outbreak in their park?? The governor can’t force Disney to not have masks at their park. The one thing Disney should do is make a statement that they will still be required because if not those anti virus people will take the governors word that they can get away with it and Disney will have a lot of issues with people.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1309625682423689216

 

[PixarBall]

Real question when did Florida and Desantis set a mandate about masks and fining people? I don’t remember them taking those measures.

 

[yulilin3]

Orange county is still under mandatory mask, so there's that

 

[Tinksbff]

Real question when did Florida and Desantis set a mandate about masks and fining people? I don’t remember them taking those measures.

DeSantis never issued a mask mandate. The mandates were issued by local governing bodies and applied to cities, like Miami, and about 1/3 of Florida’s counties, including Broward and Orange. Fines were determined and enforced by those governing bodies. Various lawsuits were filed arguing the constitutionality of the mandates. I think DeSantis is trying to avoid the lawsuits. Thus, Orange County’s mask mandate stands but it cannot fine or penalize anyone not wearing a mask. So we will still have to wear a mask at Disney. DeSantis‘ Order didn’t change that.

 

[DebbieB]

Real question when did Florida and Desantis set a mandate about masks and fining people? I don’t remember them taking those measures.

i believe some counties did.

 

[PixarBall]

DeSantis never issued a mask mandate. The mandates were issued by local governing bodies and applied to cities, like Miami, and about 1/3 of Florida’s counties, including Broward and Orange. Fines were determined and enforced by those governing bodies. Various lawsuits were filed arguing the constitutionality of the mandates. I think DeSantis is trying to avoid the lawsuits. Thus, Orange County’s mask mandate stands but it cannot fine or penalize anyone not wearing a mask. So we will still have to wear a mask at Disney. DeSantis‘ Order didn’t change that.

Yeah I was wondering why this was even news then. He was never pro mask. Some people acting like this will change what happens in Disney which confused me. (Not just here but places like twitter) It’s just about the fines associated with them. DeSantis can’t make the mask mandates set by mayors or companies go away. Will be harder to enforce without fines but companies still have every right to refuse entry or remove someone. The only real news is the capacity one and for restaurants if they choose to.

 

[Pyotr]

Yeah I was wondering why this was even news then. He was never pro mask. Some people acting like this will change what happens in Disney which confused me. (Not just here but places like twitter) It’s just about the fines associated with them. DeSantis can’t make the mask mandates set by mayors or companies go away. Will be harder to enforce without fines but companies still have every right to refuse entry or remove someone. The only real news is the capacity one and for restaurants if they choose to.

Yes he can. However, he chose to make them unenforceable instead.

It doesn’t matter. Disney requires them. If you don’t like it, don’t go (Like me).

 

[PixarBall]

• Yes he can. However, he chose to make them unenforceable instead.
  
  It doesn’t matter. Disney requires them. If you don’t like it, don’t go (Like me).

  
  he can’t not force Disney to allow guests in without masks if they do not want to do that. If Walmart doesn’t want anyone going in their stores without masks he can’t force them to take that away.

 

[skeeter31]

I just want to remind everyone that even though the parks are "sold out" for tomorrow, I can still go to DisneyWorld.com and get a room for the weekend at all of the open "cash-side" hotels and many of the DVC properties (at the moment, many DVC members have a huge incentive to visit before Nov. 30). That should tell you a lot about how the parks are being filled: moving resort slots over to AP holder slots. Does that mean they haven't tinkered with capacity at all? Not necessarily, but they're still not getting the out-of-town numbers they want to sustain WDW evenly throughout the week (especially at the hotels).

Exactly. We’ve been able to book DVC points rooms for pretty much every trip we want to take for the rest of the year, and for rooms that are usually never available. Park availability isn’t important to us, as we use the little 1-2 night getaways to just relax at the resorts and maybe wander a park (like we did this week at AK). But yes, the buckets are mainly being filled by local APs on a weekend basis, not so much guests staying at the resorts. I have upcoming trips at BWV and BLT staying to rooms that I’ve never been able to reserve and I only booked them a week or so ago (not 11 months ago).

 

[Pyotr]

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  he can’t not force Disney to allow guests in without masks if they do not want to do that.

You‘re missing the point. Disney is private property. They can enforce whatever rules they want.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

DeSantis never issued a mask mandate. The mandates were issued by local governing bodies and applied to cities, like Miami, and about 1/3 of Florida’s counties, including Broward and Orange. Fines were determined and enforced by those governing bodies. Various lawsuits were filed arguing the constitutionality of the mandates. I think DeSantis is trying to avoid the lawsuits. Thus, Orange County’s mask mandate stands but it cannot fine or penalize anyone not wearing a mask. So we will still have to wear a mask at Disney. DeSantis‘ Order didn’t change that.

I do worry with the change and that you can no luck nger be fined that it will create more confrontations from anti-mask people (as Disney/the parks but just in regular areas as well - feel even more for the workers trying to enforce it)

 

[TheMaxRebo]

People have wanted to move forward for months. Attitudes are already changing .. a LOT of people would be back to normal if they were "allowed" to. I'd easily go back to work at my office but my company won't let me .. even when I'd be like one of 2-3 people there.

In most cases, besides wearing masks when you go out, things ARE back to normal (from a going out and about standpoint) besides a few businesses not being able to be open yet (such as Disneyland in California, gyms, bars and movie theatres (in a lot of states), etc. Schools are going back to in-person learning in many states (if they weren't already) and football (at all levels) is starting up in one way or another (some with fans even!).

Obviously the capacity and demand isn't there yet, but that will come back eventually too as more and more people venture out (which they are doing)


My guess is they will also be the first park to drop the mask requirement as well (though I doubt ANYTIME soon) .. or at least only make it mandatory inside or in a queue.

I think it depends on your area - definitely doesn't feel anywhere near normal here. We have been fully virtual for school (though attempting some hybrid here, though many people still keeping kids home), all our fall sports moved to spring (so no football here)

I mean, I guess there is a desire to get to normal but most people I know feel we are so far away from that being a reality it is more about adapting to a "new normal"

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Oh, did want to add since I had mentioned in the past not seeing any Disney advertisements where I live that have started to see some of the holiday commercials so guess they even want us NYers

 

[JK World]

While I'm sure Disney will maintain the same policies for a while yet, the thought of people not being required to wear masks everywhere off property is very concerning and making me have major doubts about our November trip. I was just starting to feel optimistic, with Southwest keeping middle seats open through Nov 30. But now I am leaning towards canceling and just waiting for our 2021 trip (which I'll probably move up to April or May, June seems so far away).

Sad not to maintain our annual tradition of celebrating my son's birthday at WDW, but there are more important things.

 

[New Mouse]

Exactly, so what difference does It make other than have the CMs in the mindset that crowds COULD get larger. Raising capacity would just be another step towards future preparedness. We’ve seen how things get a little dicey every time there’s been an influx of guests. This would just allow CMs to mentally prepare for the return of guests if/when that may be. It’s better to set the capacity a little higher periodically before the crowds are ready to come back rather than wait until the demand grows beyond their capability of controlling such crowds.

What you said makes 0 sense. Thats not how any of that works lol

 

[gottalovepluto]

Orange county is still under mandatory mask, so there's that

On paper. But in reality an unenforceable mandate is just a suggestion.