Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[Brianstl]

I am definitely NOT a proponent of guest vs. guest confrontations, saw enough of them as a CM and they never go or end well.

However ... let’s say you’re standing in line for a ride. Group behind you isn’t respecting your space/social distancing. Maybe masks are on, maybe masks are on wrong, maybe they’re off. Maybe they’re just too close. It’s a tough situation when the unsafe behavior actually could endanger you and your family, and you are not in a position to inform a CM.

Still not a proponent of guest vs. guest enforcement, but there can be some tricky situations.

I don’t think asking someone nicely to back up or wear their mask properly is a big deal. The problem comes if someone refuses or says something. Don’t escalate the situation or inform them of the legit reasons their actions are unacceptable. Don’t tell them they are breaking the rules, the idiots know that and don’t care. They want a confrontation and if people decide to give it too them, they are just as big of an idiot. Remove yourself from the dangerous situation and inform a cast member.

Saw a shoving match in line at Home Depot two moths ago between two idiots over this stuff. Both people thought they were being some kind of hero for some kind of cause. They both were kicked out of the store. The guy who took it upon himself to do Home Depot’s job was yelling that he shouldn’t have to leave and the security guy nicely informed him that he should have let him do his job.

 

[wdwoutsider]

The NBA if they need to do a bubble again , it would be in Vegas. The players won't accept WDW twice. I don't think anyone needs to worry about them after this season

 

[TXAKDisneyFan]

It isn’t stay home if you don’t like it and keep your mouth shut if you encounter guests not following the safety rules. Inform a cast member. Enable them and Disney to enforce their rules. I don’t need a fight between two groups of people who can’t control their own urges to be the most important people at WDW breaking out in front of my wife and kid at the happiest place on earth.

If you think you are important enough to do the job of enforcing Disney’s rules for them, stay home. You are just as big of an idiot as the people not wearing masks. Both groups think they are more important than everyone else at the parks. Just completely selfish acts on the part of both groups.

At least a week and a half ago, there were areas that were pretty reliably not monitored by CMs: ride queues and resort walkways. Those were the areas that we saw the worst mask compliance. We never felt comfortable approaching any other guests about masks, but there also were no CMs around to inform. Ex.: group of three 30-somethings directly ahead of us in line for MF:SR. Man in the group entered the queue with a beer, finished it as he got up the first incline in the queue, kept his mask off until just before Hondo. There were zero CMs between there and the queue entrance (and the line extended to the outside area). We just hung back a couple "please wait here" stickers, and luckily the guests behind us didn't mind.
Also, while waiting for the skyliner to open on our DHS day, both parties ahead and behind us removed their masks. There were no CMs within sight.

It was apparent that a not insignifant portion of guests will take any opportunity to uncover their noses or take their masks off altogether. We were okay just keeping extra distance from people not wearing masks, esp bc we were afraid of how others would react. I know it would be extra cost for Disney, but I would expect more guest confrontations unless Disney posts CMs in these unmonitored areas.

 

[Makmak]

I just think the paid reservation system right now and for the foreseeable future is Disney chasing after pennies on the ground while they are ignoring the stacks of dollars on the shelf. The big money maker when it comes to park guests for Disney will always be on site guests because of the massive resort operations that charge a huge premium. Anything that devalues that is going to be a huge long term negative and is even a bigger negative when they can't come close to filling the reduced number of rooms they will be operating at for a long time. Having park guests stay at their resorts instead of offsite options should be their number one concern. Anything that makes staying offsite look more attractive to park quests should be a non starter for Disney.

And this is exactly what we are doing for September since they reduced hours. We are booked at a universal resort hotel at our AP rate there and will Lyft over. The pool hours are better, there are the special AP things at universal and Disney lost a lot of money from us.

 

[yulilin3]

Do you happen to know how much notice they'll get?

At least a week

 

[LSUmiss]

I am definitely NOT a proponent of guest vs. guest confrontations, saw enough of them as a CM and they never go or end well.

However ... let’s say you’re standing in line for a ride. Group behind you isn’t respecting your space/social distancing. Maybe masks are on, maybe masks are on wrong, maybe they’re off. Maybe they’re just too close. It’s a tough situation when the unsafe behavior actually could endanger you and your family, and you are not in a position to inform a CM.

Still not a proponent of guest vs. guest enforcement, but there can be some tricky situations.

You can always leave. Walking past the unmasked group briefly to exit the line is not as dangerous as continuing to stay too close to them or getting into a shouting match with them. In fact, the cdc considers it exposure mostly if you have been within 6ft of ppl who were not wearing masks for more than 15 min. So you can leave.

 

[FrankieWinthrop]

I can't wait to see some new videos/live streams of Nemo. In a Big Blue Wooorld.....

Finally! A person after my own heart! Walking past a closed Nemo last month got me teary eyed! My little family LOVES our Nemo show!

 

[Alynw]

Common sense has to come into play here sometime, wearing a mask part time does absolutely nothing. The 15 min rule or whatever it is, also the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Its ok to remove ur mask for an hour while ur eating and drinking but must immediately put back on when ur done, cause u were safe while eating and drinking, rite..seriously. is folks really buying into this. The masks are just a way to justify opening business back up. Bottom line, if u go to a place like Disney or Universal, u have no right whatsoever to complain about someone wearing a mask or not cause if going u are obviously not concerned about the virus at all or u wouldn't be going.

 

[butterscotchcollins]

Same...wasn't planning on being in HS either that Saturday or Sunday anyway, but I'm a little bit worried that it's a sign that crowds are going to be very, very busy.

Busier than it has been, yes.
Busier than a regular Labor Day weekend, almost certainly no.

 

[kelpricer]

Common sense has to come into play here sometime, wearing a mask part time does absolutely nothing. The 15 min rule or whatever it is, also the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Its ok to remove ur mask for an hour while ur eating and drinking but must immediately put back on when ur done, cause u were safe while eating and drinking, rite..seriously. is folks really buying into this. The masks are just a way to justify opening business back up. Bottom line, if u go to a place like Disney or Universal, u have no right whatsoever to complain about someone wearing a mask or not cause if going u are obviously not concerned about the virus at all or u wouldn't be going.

Maybe your not understanding the purpose of the mask and that’s why you think it’s ridiculous? YOU aren’t any safer with your mask on-I am safer with YOUR mask on. So, it’s not about you being safer for an hour while you eat. It’s about you being at a table, away from me, eating and drinking. I find it interesting that there seems to be only 2ways to look at this pandemic. Your are not concerned at all or you must stay sheltered in your home. THIS ISNT TRUE! I can be concerned and take precautions while living my life, like I do with most things in this world.

 

[SwirlTheCitrus]

Just came back from Magic Kingdom last night; It was perfect. Cast members were happily reminding people to have their noses in their masks, mask compliance was 99% (thanks darn guy in the haunted mansion line for wrecking the 100%-- chin mask).

Regarding the social distancing markers, I heard more than one family treating them like they were a mission-- "go go!" "Wait! False alarm, come back!" Or like some sort of game of the floor is lava.

I felt uncomfortable one time, and said "too close!!" and the people around me jumped back "back up, guys, more room!"

Pin Trading Outpost is back open, by the way!

 

[DGsAtBLT]

Common sense has to come into play here sometime, wearing a mask part time does absolutely nothing. The 15 min rule or whatever it is, also the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Its ok to remove ur mask for an hour while ur eating and drinking but must immediately put back on when ur done, cause u were safe while eating and drinking, rite..seriously. is folks really buying into this. The masks are just a way to justify opening business back up. Bottom line, if u go to a place like Disney or Universal, u have no right whatsoever to complain about someone wearing a mask or not cause if going u are obviously not concerned about the virus at all or u wouldn't be going.

Common sense would tell you it’s not that you or anyone else are magically protected while eating and drinking, but that eating and drinking is necessary for survival so that is why it’s fine to remove your mask to do so.

This has come up too many times as a gotcha, and I don’t get it. If there was a way for people to eat with their masks on people would have to wear masks to eat. Until then...

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Common sense would tell you it’s not that you or anyone else are magically protected while eating and drinking, but that eating and drinking is necessary for survival so that is why it’s fine to remove your mask to do so.

This has come up too many times as a gotcha, and I don’t get it. If there was a way for people to eat with their masks on people would have to wear masks to eat. Until then...

Plus the idea is the tables are far enough away from each other so that proper social distancing is happening 100% of the time while you are at your table. Obviously mask + social distancing is the best but one of the main reason for wearing a mask is for when you can't properly social distance or there is a chance you will not be able to

Obviously nothing is 100% risk free but the more people that follow the guidelines the lower the risk becomes. It doesn't have to be either 100% risky or 0%. But if we can get to 5-10% risk I stead of 25-30% I am all for that

 

[FrankieWinthrop]

Regarding the social distancing markers, I heard more than one family treating them like they were a mission-- "go go!" "Wait! False alarm, come back!" Or like some sort of game of the floor is lava.

Guilty! This method worked really well with small kids. While we were in line, we’d make up a silly reason why you had to keep a toe on the line. It all started at Frozen when the snow monster would get us if we didn’t stay on our line and rush to the next one once the people in front of us got to their next line.

 

[jschlaud]

Guilty! This method worked really well with small kids. While we were in line, we’d make up a silly reason why you had to keep a toe on the line. It all started at Frozen when the snow monster would get us if we didn’t stay on our line and rush to the next one once the people in front of us got to their next line.

Ha! I’m stealing this for when we go in November! My kids love the floor is lava game and when that gets old, we can use the snow monster!

 

[MickeyWaffles]

You can always leave. Walking past the unmasked group briefly to exit the line is not as dangerous as continuing to stay too close to them or getting into a shouting match with them. In fact, the cdc considers it exposure mostly if you have been within 6ft of ppl who were not wearing masks for more than 15 min. So you can leave.

Sometimes it’s not that simple when you have kids who want to ride and have waited patiently. You shouldn’t have to pull your kids out of a line you’ve been waiting in because the people behind you aren’t being responsible. Real easy for kids to understand that the rule breakers get to stay in line, but they have to leave.

I wouldn’t go right now anyway to even be in a situation like this so it doesn’t even matter

Just presenting a situation where someone may say something directly to another guest. A simple request to stay further back or to please put their masks on could escalate.

 

[chicagoshannon]

At least a week

hopefully they'll be notified today then.

 

[Rash]

Sometimes it’s not that simple when you have kids who want to ride and have waited patiently. You shouldn’t have to pull your kids out of a line you’ve been waiting in because the people behind you aren’t being responsible. Real easy for kids to understand that the rule breakers get to stay in line, but they have to leave.

I wouldn’t go right now anyway to even be in a situation like this so it doesn’t even matter

Just presenting a situation where someone may say something directly to another guest. A simple request to stay further back or to please put their masks on could escalate.

it really depends how you ask. I had to do it a few times when we went in mid July. I simply just turned around and said nicely “do you mind moving back a bit please? Thank you“ everyone I asked was very nice and compliant about it. That doesn’t mean everyone will be, and had they not been I would’ve simply again said nicely “I’m not trying to be confrontational, I’m just trying to keep Your family and my family safe. I appreciate it. “ If they continued to be confrontational at that point, I would’ve stopped engaging with them. Not sure exactly how I would’ve handled it then but luckily I didn’t have to deal with it because it didn’t happen.

 

[hertamaniac]

Plus the idea is the tables are far enough away from each other so that proper social distancing is happening 100% of the time while you are at your table. Obviously mask + social distancing is the best but one of the main reason for wearing a mask is for when you can't properly social distance or there is a chance you will not be able to

Obviously nothing is 100% risk free but the more people that follow the guidelines the lower the risk becomes. It doesn't have to be either 100% risky or 0%. But if we can get to 5-10% risk I stead of 25-30% I am all for that

It's not just the distancing of the tables, but even the orientation of the chairs. At Homecomin' this week, there were only two chairs on the same side of the table we were taken to. I grabbed one of them to move it to the opposite side when the CM informed me they are positioned to maintain social distancing between chairs at other tables. It took me a second to register it, but made perfect sense to me.

 

[rteetz]

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