Crowd Outlook

It will be interesting to see how the crowds are going to be in the cooler, comfortable times in Florida. I am wondering if come January, if there may be quite a few more guest than what I was hoping for. If I was 20 years younger, I could handle that heat again, but not now.
 
If you look at the last attendance report that came out Universal's 2 parks were ahead of Epcot and Animal Kingdom in attendance.
If WDW hadn't been turning people away routinely in 2022--by closing parks via the reservation system, refusing to sell APs, and on busier days not even selling day tickets--do we think that still holds? Heck even the TEA/AECOM report itself still lists the parks in 2019 order. From the report:

2022 attendance trends were still impacted due to agency restrictions limiting travel, operating days, and capacities in the Covid-19 pandemic. Therefore, we have kept the 2019 rankings in place for the 2022 report.
 
Here's a good reason why.

https://planneratheart.com/vacation-spots-besides-disney/

According to Time2Play, 92.6% of surveyed Disney World enthusiasts said they believe the cost of a Disney vacation is now out of reach for average families. What used to be regular vacation for middle-class families has evolved into a luxury trip with pricey add-ons everywhere you look.

With admission prices that change based on demand, a one-day, one-park base ticket for Disney World costs $141.74 on average, according to a LendingTree analysis. However, purchasing tickets during popular travel periods, park hopping, or reserving ride times to skip crowds can double the cost of tickets.

...

But the disillusionment doesn’t stop there. 68.3% said rampant price increases and nickel and diming have made it feel like Disney World has lost its magic. So parents across the country are making other vacation plans. From wanting to show their kids the world now that borders have re-opened, to showing them the wonder of mother nature, families are saying bye bye to Mickey and Minnie and hello to these vacation destinations
ions.

As soon as an article states something like the following they get a big REJECT stamp:

“When Magic Kingdom opened in 1971, a single-day admission ticket was $3.50. Someone earning federal minimum wage in 1971 ($1.60 an hour) only needed to work 2.19 hours to pay for admission. Fast forward to today, and prices have skyrocketed. A one-day ticket to a single Disney World park varies from $109 to $159 per day, depending on the day.

To put that into perspective, a minimum wage worker visiting a single Disney World park on the cheapest of days would have to work 15.03 hours to afford admission, an increase of 586% since the park first opened. If the same person wanted to visit the park on a high-demand day, they would have to work 21.90 hours, a massive jump of 900% since 1971.”

Disingenuous. That single day ticket back then only included gate admission. Almost everything else was a separate cost. Plus there was less than 5% of what is there now to lure guests across a stateline.
 
If WDW hadn't been turning people away routinely in 2022--by closing parks via the reservation system, refusing to sell APs, and on busier days not even selling day tickets--do we think that still holds? Heck even the TEA/AECOM report itself still lists the parks in 2019 order. From the report:
Yes.
Though certainly those factors have contributed.

TEA-AECOM though GE was going to be HUGE for WDW. They were really hyping it in 2018 before it opened. It has been a draw, but not to the level predicted.

Beyond the reasons you list: WDW price increases, G+/ILL's, loss of ME, addition (for a time) of parking fees. All of those aspects of WDW have left a sour taste in people's mouths. While some like the PM parties/after hours, many find them somewhat disgusting.

The reason they feel this way is because standard tickets no longer buy park admission the way it once did. Instead of paying once for 15+ hours of park time, parkgoers are asked to pay 2, 3 or even 4 times to ride the rides. (Admission, $25-35 for G+, $11-22 for the prime ILL's, plus another $100+ to visit a park after 7pm - and/or they can pony up$700/night for a deluxe hotel for a few park hours.)

While it isn't essential to pay all the upcharges, the standby waits without G+/ILL's are just miserable. It the alternative to G+ was 30minute waits that would not be so bad, but 70+ for ride after ride is miserable.

On top of that, WDW often grossly inflates standby wait times, so the people who buy G+ also feel a bit unhappy. (As an example: shortly before Splash closed, I had a G+ for it, but it was down that day. So I wound up with an anytime pass. I was hoping to ride Splash with my G+. Instead, I ended up using it to ride HM. POSTED wait was 75, but after we scanned, we realized HM had no wait. None. That G+ pass was a complete waste of time and $, even though I had to be up at 7am to book it.)

For me, it isn't waking at 7am that's the problem. It is that I used to spend 6:30-7am slowing sipping coffee and watching the sunrise. It was my favorite part of a WDW day. Booking G+ isn't a relaxing way to wake up. They replaced Magical with STRESSFUL! If G+ glitches, too bad. If you book it successfully, but the ride goes down, too bad. Getting a pass isn't at all even a sure bet these days that the ride will actually be functioning.

Disney's summer movies also haven't been doing all that well either. Just people aren't all that excited to see what they are offering right now. Everyone is wearing bright pink this summer! (women kids, guys, even dogs!)

Meanwhile, IMO, Universal has been consistently improving. The new Minions foods look super fun! I can't wait for the new attraction to open. While Disney stumbles to decide if they want to sell AP's, Universal's offering a 15month AP that costs less than half the price of a WDW AP. the differnce is pretty staggering.

I've been a big supporter of Ww for many years, but the choices they are making right now are just painfully bad. Even most the new hotel decor choices have me just...baffled.
 

Lots of great speculation here about how people might (or might not) be reacting, but that's all you (or I) are doing.

Anecdotally, I currently hold three valid annual passes---Universal Orlando, Dollywood, and Cedar Point---none of which are named "Disney." I probably won't be back to WDW until May '24 at the earliest, and more likely Feb '25.

But I also am not going to get too worked up over the TEA/AECOM attendance guessitmates until 2024 seeing as how Disney will have only been selling new APs for about 2/3ds of 2023, and excluding all of spring break season. I'll bet money that the Universal parks will no longer be ahead of any WDW park in '24 other than maybe AK--and that's the next park up for investment on (and probably expanding) the Dinoland plot.
 
Regarding the Minion stuff: This is a great change for USH. Much as with DHS, this park has had some challenges transitioning from a theme of "working studio" to...not that. The Springfield and Potterverse sections are nice examples of retheming, and remaking the entrance as All Minions All The Time is IMO a good move. Rise of Gru was more fun than I expected it to be given the last few entries in this franchise, and if you haven't watched it, it is definitely worth the time.

MINI BOSS!
 
Lots of great speculation here about how people might (or might not) be reacting, but that's all you (or I) are doing.

Anecdotally, I currently hold three valid annual passes---Universal Orlando, Dollywood, and Cedar Point---none of which are named "Disney." I probably won't be back to WDW until May '24 at the earliest, and more likely Feb '25.

But I also am not going to get too worked up over the TEA/AECOM attendance guessitmates until 2024 seeing as how Disney will have only been selling new APs for about 2/3ds of 2023, and excluding all of spring break season. I'll bet money that the Universal parks will no longer be ahead of any WDW park in '24 other than maybe AK--and that's the next park up for investment on (and probably expanding) the Dinoland plot.
Oh, no my post was mainly reporting and summarizing a great many posts I have read in another forum on this topic, not personal speculation, though I did give a few personal examples for clarity.

The other forum used to be nearly as chipper as this forum. Now the other forum's focus is much more about WDW's many shortcomings. Where FP+ had fans, the Genie+ system is universally despised for example.

Disney appears to be faltering in a big way right now.
 
Disingenuous. That single day ticket back then only included gate admission. Almost everything else was a separate cost. Plus there was less than 5% of what is there now to lure guests across a stateline.
Interesting. What cost extra when the MK first opened?
 
Interesting. What cost extra when the MK first opened?
Guests paid separately for rides and attractions. It was not included with the gate admission cost.

From mouseplanet.com

Magic Kingdom Admission​

  • General Admission and Transportation: Adult $3.50, Junior $2.50 and Child $1.
  • Seven Adventure Ticket Book: Adult $4.75, Junior $4.25, and Child $3.75
  • Eleven Adventure Ticket Book: Adult $5.75, Junior $5.25 ,and Child $4.75
  • Guided Tour: Adult or Junior $6.50 and Child $3.75
  • Parking: Fifty cents per day
  • Kal Kan Kennel Club: Fifty cents per day and $1 for overnight. Kal Kan Kennel Club was a pet motel located to the side of the Magic Kingdom where guests could check their pets. It operated from 6 a.m. to midnight every day and the stay included a free meal for the pet. Kal Kan had been around since 1936. Doc Brown in Back to the Future (1985) fed his dog, Einstein, the brand. An overnight stay was not an option at a similar facility at Disneyland Park because, at WDW, it was assumed that a guest would be staying multiple days.
  • What is this "transportation" cost in general admission?
"Included in this Magic Kingdom ticket Book is your Walt Disney World Transportation Ticket, which allows Guest Transportation to and from the Magic Kingdom (Monorail, Steamboat, Motor Tram) of the Walt Disney World Transportation System. If you plan to return today or this evening to either the Magic Kingdom or the Walt Disney World be sure to have hand stamped at the exit."
The Magic Kingdom was the only theme park, with the opening of EPCOT still a decade away.

An "A" ticket ($0.10) was good for a one-way ride on Main Street's Omnibus, Horse Cars, or other Main Street vehicles. Or you could choose a spin on Cinderella's Golden Carrousel in Fantasyland.

A "B" ticket ($0.25) was good for a visit to the Main Street Cinema, Frontierland's Shootin' Gallery, Mike Fink Keelboats, or Adventureland's Swiss Family Treehouse.

A "C" ticket ($0.50) was good for Tomorrowland's Grand Prix Raceway; Fantasyland's Dumbo the Flying Elephant, Peter Pan's Flight, Snow White's Adventures, Mr. Toad's Wild Ride, or Mad Tea Party; or Frontierland's Davy Crockett's Explorer Canoes (that closed at dusk with a reminder of that fact on the ticket itself, to avoid disappointing guests).

A "D" ticket ($0.75) was good for the Main Street Railroad Train Grand Circle Tour; Tomorrowland's Skyway to Fantasyland or Flight to the Moon; Fantasyland's Skyway to Tomorrowland; Frontierland's Country Bear Jamboree; and Liberty Square's Admiral Joe Fowler Riverboat or The Hall of Presidents.

An "E" Ticket ($0.80 to $0.90) was good for Fantasyland's "it's a small world," The Mickey Mouse Revue or 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea Submarine Voyage; Adventureland's Jungle Cruise, Tropical Serenade (name changed in September 1972 to Enchanted Tiki Birds and dropped to a "D" ticket); or Liberty Square's Haunted Mansion.

The Hall of Presidents and Country Bear Jamboree would move up from "D" to "E" in 1972, and The Mickey Mouse Revue would drop from "E" status to "D" in 1972.

Walt Disney World was not just a larger theme park, but an entire vacation kingdom so there were multiple recreation opportunities as additional costs:

Recreational Watercraft​

  • Capri (14 foot): $6 per hour
  • Sunfish: $4 per hour
  • Sailing Outrigger: $6 per hour
  • Bob-A-Round: $8 per hour
  • Pedal Boat: $3-$5 per hour
  • Paddle Wheeler (5 seats): $8 per hour
  • Outrigger Excursion: $1 per person
  • War Canoe Excursion: $1 per person
  • High Speed Ski or Jet Boat Excursion: $1 per person
  • Hobie Catamaran Excursion: $2 per person
  • Ski Boat with Driver: $15 per hour
  • Ski Boat with Driver and Instructor: $25 per hour
  • Aqua Cats: $5 per hour
  • Super Dingies: $2 per hour
  • Sailing Instructor (Private): $6 per person per lesson
  • Sailing Instructor (Semi Private 3-4): $3 per person per lesson. Sorry, but limited lake space prohibits private boats.

Beaches and Pools​

  • Early Morning Exercise Program: $1-$2
  • Skin Diving Instruction: $3
  • Synchronized Swimming: $3
  • Swimming Lessons (6 in class): $3
  • Evening Exercise Program: $1
  • Private Swimming Instruction: $5
  • Diving Instruction: $3
  • Junior Lifeguard Program: $1
  • Water Introduction for Children: $1
  • Walk-Jog-Swim: $1

Resort Recreation​

  • Bicycle: $1 per hour
  • Tandem: $2 per hour
  • Bicycle $5 per day
  • Tandem: $8 per day
  • Cyclery Trail Ride: $3 per hour
  • Youth's Package Program: $1 per hour
  • Tennis Instruction (10 in a class): $3 per hour
  • Tennis Instruction (Private): $8 per hour

Fort Wilderness Activities and Prices​

  • Archery: $1 for 60 arrows
  • Archery: $0.80 for 25 arrows
  • Archery: $0.50 for 20 arrows
  • Bicycle: $1 per hour
  • Tandem: $2 per hour
  • Bicycle: $5 per day
  • Tandem: $8 per day
  • Beach Umbrella: $1 per day
  • Canoes: $1 per hour per person
  • Canoe Breakfast Rides: $2
  • Canoe Night Nature Excursion: $1 per person
  • Recreation Package Programs: $2 per person
  • Recreation Package Programs: $4 for four hours
  • Fins, Mask and Snorkel: $1 per day
  • Surf Mats: $1 per day
  • Electric Boat: $2 per hour

Tri Circle D Ranch Activities and Prices​

  • Breakfast Ride (by horseback): $6.50 for 90 minutes
  • Wilderness Ride (by horseback): $5 for an hour
  • Old-Fashioned Hayride (ninety minutes to two hours in length): Child (age 11 and younger) $1; Adult (12 and older) $2

Golf​

  • Green Fee: $10
  • Electric Golf Cart: $10
  • Green Fee and Cart: $15 each for twosome
  • Bag and Club Rental: $5
All prices subject to change without notice.

Yes, back in 1971, people also complained at how expensive a Walt Disney World vacation trip was, but all agreed that they got top value for their money. This was only Phase One of the plans for the property and guests were eager to see all the additions that were promised to appear by 1975.

Unfortunately, the gas crisis in 1973, when Arab countries declared an oil embargo, made a visit to WDW much more expensive. That scuttled many of the announced additions to the property as attendance dropped significantly.
 
As soon as an article states something like the following they get a big REJECT stamp:

“When Magic Kingdom opened in 1971, a single-day admission ticket was $3.50. Someone earning federal minimum wage in 1971 ($1.60 an hour) only needed to work 2.19 hours to pay for admission. Fast forward to today, and prices have skyrocketed. A one-day ticket to a single Disney World park varies from $109 to $159 per day, depending on the day.

To put that into perspective, a minimum wage worker visiting a single Disney World park on the cheapest of days would have to work 15.03 hours to afford admission, an increase of 586% since the park first opened. If the same person wanted to visit the park on a high-demand day, they would have to work 21.90 hours, a massive jump of 900% since 1971.”

Disingenuous. That single day ticket back then only included gate admission. Almost everything else was a separate cost. Plus there was less than 5% of what is there now to lure guests across a stateline.
That’s as much a reflection on the inequity of the minimum wage as it is on Disney prices
 
Thanks for the info, Genie+! I didn't realize that WDW ever operated on the ticket system. They were in use in Disneyland in the mid/late 1950s when I went there, but were gone by my next visit in 1983. My first visit to WDW was also in 1983--just EPCOT--and we didn't get ticket books, so it never occurred to me that they might have been used earlier at WDW.
 
Meanwhile, IMO, Universal has been consistently improving. The new Minions foods look super fun! I can't wait for the new attraction to open. While Disney stumbles to decide if they want to sell AP's, Universal's offering a 15month AP that costs less than half the price of a WDW AP. the differnce is pretty staggering.
I will disagree that Universal is improving. Universal's parks are not in great shape compared to pre pandemic. Saying they are improving because they are aren't making the same bad decisions Disney are making doesn't mean they are doing great. They are offering 15 months annual pass the same reason Disney is doing discounts, they are also having a light summer.

Universal Orlando is in rough shape and Minion Land is a start but that park needs so much more work to make it functional. Islands has a whole area that is just there, no different than Dino Land. Universal appears to be functional thanks to Disney's reservation system, Genie + and limited park hopping, but just because it's not making bad decisions does not mean it is not also flailing.
 
I will disagree that Universal is improving. Universal's parks are not in great shape compared to pre pandemic. Saying they are improving because they are aren't making the same bad decisions Disney are making doesn't mean they are doing great. They are offering 15 months annual pass the same reason Disney is doing discounts, they are also having a light summer.

Universal Orlando is in rough shape and Minion Land is a start but that park needs so much more work to make it functional. Islands has a whole area that is just there, no different than Dino Land. Universal appears to be functional thanks to Disney's reservation system, Genie + and limited park hopping, but just because it's not making bad decisions does not mean it is not also flailing.

Plus a universal AP should cost less than Disney ones simply because there are only 2 parks 3 if you count the water park vs 4 major ones at Disney.

The lost continent section is so bad , it needs something badly since on that side of the park forced to walk through it.
 
Plus a universal AP should cost less than Disney ones simply because there are only 2 parks 3 if you count the water park vs 4 major ones at Disney.
I was about to mention the same - yes its half the price for half (or arguably less than half) the experience.
 
Guests paid separately for rides and attractions. It was not included with the gate admission cost.

From mouseplanet.com

Magic Kingdom Admission​

  • General Admission and Transportation: Adult $3.50, Junior $2.50 and Child $1.
  • Seven Adventure Ticket Book: Adult $4.75, Junior $4.25, and Child $3.75
  • Eleven Adventure Ticket Book: Adult $5.75, Junior $5.25 ,and Child $4.75
  • Guided Tour: Adult or Junior $6.50 and Child $3.75
  • Parking: Fifty cents per day
  • Kal Kan Kennel Club: Fifty cents per day and $1 for overnight. Kal Kan Kennel Club was a pet motel located to the side of the Magic Kingdom where guests could check their pets. It operated from 6 a.m. to midnight every day and the stay included a free meal for the pet. Kal Kan had been around since 1936. Doc Brown in Back to the Future (1985) fed his dog, Einstein, the brand. An overnight stay was not an option at a similar facility at Disneyland Park because, at WDW, it was assumed that a guest would be staying multiple days.
  • What is this "transportation" cost in general admission?

The Magic Kingdom was the only theme park, with the opening of EPCOT still a decade away.

An "A" ticket ($0.10) was good for a one-way ride on Main Street's Omnibus, Horse Cars, or other Main Street vehicles. Or you could choose a spin on Cinderella's Golden Carrousel in Fantasyland.

A "B" ticket ($0.25) was good for a visit to the Main Street Cinema, Frontierland's Shootin' Gallery, Mike Fink Keelboats, or Adventureland's Swiss Family Treehouse.

A "C" ticket ($0.50) was good for Tomorrowland's Grand Prix Raceway; Fantasyland's Dumbo the Flying Elephant, Peter Pan's Flight, Snow White's Adventures, Mr. Toad's Wild Ride, or Mad Tea Party; or Frontierland's Davy Crockett's Explorer Canoes (that closed at dusk with a reminder of that fact on the ticket itself, to avoid disappointing guests).

A "D" ticket ($0.75) was good for the Main Street Railroad Train Grand Circle Tour; Tomorrowland's Skyway to Fantasyland or Flight to the Moon; Fantasyland's Skyway to Tomorrowland; Frontierland's Country Bear Jamboree; and Liberty Square's Admiral Joe Fowler Riverboat or The Hall of Presidents.

An "E" Ticket ($0.80 to $0.90) was good for Fantasyland's "it's a small world," The Mickey Mouse Revue or 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea Submarine Voyage; Adventureland's Jungle Cruise, Tropical Serenade (name changed in September 1972 to Enchanted Tiki Birds and dropped to a "D" ticket); or Liberty Square's Haunted Mansion.

The Hall of Presidents and Country Bear Jamboree would move up from "D" to "E" in 1972, and The Mickey Mouse Revue would drop from "E" status to "D" in 1972.

Walt Disney World was not just a larger theme park, but an entire vacation kingdom so there were multiple recreation opportunities as additional costs:

Recreational Watercraft​

  • Capri (14 foot): $6 per hour
  • Sunfish: $4 per hour
  • Sailing Outrigger: $6 per hour
  • Bob-A-Round: $8 per hour
  • Pedal Boat: $3-$5 per hour
  • Paddle Wheeler (5 seats): $8 per hour
  • Outrigger Excursion: $1 per person
  • War Canoe Excursion: $1 per person
  • High Speed Ski or Jet Boat Excursion: $1 per person
  • Hobie Catamaran Excursion: $2 per person
  • Ski Boat with Driver: $15 per hour
  • Ski Boat with Driver and Instructor: $25 per hour
  • Aqua Cats: $5 per hour
  • Super Dingies: $2 per hour
  • Sailing Instructor (Private): $6 per person per lesson
  • Sailing Instructor (Semi Private 3-4): $3 per person per lesson. Sorry, but limited lake space prohibits private boats.

Beaches and Pools​

  • Early Morning Exercise Program: $1-$2
  • Skin Diving Instruction: $3
  • Synchronized Swimming: $3
  • Swimming Lessons (6 in class): $3
  • Evening Exercise Program: $1
  • Private Swimming Instruction: $5
  • Diving Instruction: $3
  • Junior Lifeguard Program: $1
  • Water Introduction for Children: $1
  • Walk-Jog-Swim: $1

Resort Recreation​

  • Bicycle: $1 per hour
  • Tandem: $2 per hour
  • Bicycle $5 per day
  • Tandem: $8 per day
  • Cyclery Trail Ride: $3 per hour
  • Youth's Package Program: $1 per hour
  • Tennis Instruction (10 in a class): $3 per hour
  • Tennis Instruction (Private): $8 per hour

Fort Wilderness Activities and Prices​

  • Archery: $1 for 60 arrows
  • Archery: $0.80 for 25 arrows
  • Archery: $0.50 for 20 arrows
  • Bicycle: $1 per hour
  • Tandem: $2 per hour
  • Bicycle: $5 per day
  • Tandem: $8 per day
  • Beach Umbrella: $1 per day
  • Canoes: $1 per hour per person
  • Canoe Breakfast Rides: $2
  • Canoe Night Nature Excursion: $1 per person
  • Recreation Package Programs: $2 per person
  • Recreation Package Programs: $4 for four hours
  • Fins, Mask and Snorkel: $1 per day
  • Surf Mats: $1 per day
  • Electric Boat: $2 per hour

Tri Circle D Ranch Activities and Prices​

  • Breakfast Ride (by horseback): $6.50 for 90 minutes
  • Wilderness Ride (by horseback): $5 for an hour
  • Old-Fashioned Hayride (ninety minutes to two hours in length): Child (age 11 and younger) $1; Adult (12 and older) $2

Golf​

  • Green Fee: $10
  • Electric Golf Cart: $10
  • Green Fee and Cart: $15 each for twosome
  • Bag and Club Rental: $5
All prices subject to change without notice.

Yes, back in 1971, people also complained at how expensive a Walt Disney World vacation trip was, but all agreed that they got top value for their money. This was only Phase One of the plans for the property and guests were eager to see all the additions that were promised to appear by 1975.

Unfortunately, the gas crisis in 1973, when Arab countries declared an oil embargo, made a visit to WDW much more expensive. That scuttled many of the announced additions to the property as attendance dropped significantly.
Look at all that nickle and diming!! And we all thought the dynamic Bob duo invented it, they were just paying homage to the originals. :rotfl2:
 
I will disagree that Universal is improving. Universal's parks are not in great shape compared to pre pandemic. Saying they are improving because they are aren't making the same bad decisions Disney are making doesn't mean they are doing great. They are offering 15 months annual pass the same reason Disney is doing discounts, they are also having a light summer.

Universal Orlando is in rough shape and Minion Land is a start but that park needs so much more work to make it functional. Islands has a whole area that is just there, no different than Dino Land. Universal appears to be functional thanks to Disney's reservation system, Genie + and limited park hopping, but just because it's not making bad decisions does not mean it is not also flailing.
For some reason on these boards people believe that because a company is faltering, another is thriving. I think it has to do with them hoping that one forces the other to make a maneuver in a more "positive" direction. I don't think people understand how far apart Disney and Universal are from one another, the numbers don't show them as close at all.

IMO if Disney wasn't around Universal would not be all that viable to tourists, they would probably be viable because of locals, (much like 6 Flags) but i don't think they have enough of a draw to have people stay there for an entire week much like a Disney Land isn't much of a tourist destination. I think EU will be a nice addition, but still doesn't move the needle much IMO
 
Plus a universal AP should cost less than Disney ones simply because there are only 2 parks 3 if you count the water park vs 4 major ones at Disney.

The lost continent section is so bad , it needs something badly since on that side of the park forced to walk through it.
That is pretty bad...and the comics section is so outdated. I have 2 adult children so have been around a while, and some of those I barely remember! lol

One thing Studios has that makes it so much fun is the street ambiance. Characters are all over, lots of streetmosphere and entertainment. One day I spent bouncing between all the shows (Blues Brothers, Beat Builders, Sing It, and the new dance one... there are also a few other ones that we seem to miss or ones I'm not remembering).

Don't get me wrong, WDW has lots too, but it just doesn't feel as easy to do. I am more of a Disney person than Uni, but WDW just sometimes makes things so...hard lol
 
The easiest way to see the difference between Disney Parks and Universal's is to look for a Universal-centric discussion board even remotely the size of DIS. And the DIS is not the only large-scale Disney discussion board.

But in my experience as a theme park guest, Universal's parks are great fun. Between the resorts and City Walk, the Orlando campus is both human in scale while having lots of options. It easily supports a 3-night visit, and the addition of EU will push it to four---which is just about the average US trip length.
 












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