Crowd Levels Down?

I think it's the best water park in Orlando, by a fair margin. But calling it the 3rd/4th theme park is quite a stretch.
I agree i dont consider a water park a theme park, I love theme parks but not a big fan of water parks although id check this out just to see the big volcano!
 

I already took two trips to Epic. Lines were long because the attractions kept closing/delaying due to technical and weather issues. They were handing out recovery EP to everyone who was ushered from an attraction, and this added more people to the EP lines. It was common to wait 45 minutes in some express lines. I can't imagine what the wait times for the standby lines were.

Despite all that, I still wouldn't discourage anyone from going to Epic. It's a beautiful park and we are returning next month. I just don't think it's an answer for the folks who are currently upset with Disney's pricing. If they can't afford Disney, they won't be able to afford Epic either.

Epic is being put in to the normal bucket of parks later this year for Europe tickets at least from what I saw. Getting stand alone I can't see it making sense but once its dropped in to their normal multi-day ticket it might not be so bad?
 
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In my opinion, they have of course the Harry Potter lands which are as immersive as anything you’ll find anywhere and a few rides at islands of adventure, but everything else is far below even the worst of Disney World.


Nothing is worse than It's a Small World.
 
A lot of people would disagree with that. The 9 and 14 year old were going with do not think Disney is thrilling enough and my wife who didnt grow up with Disney thinks that many of the rides are boring and outdated and I can see why.

I was so excited when main st electrical parade came back to Disneyland, but she thought it was lame. I think Disney banks more on people's nostalgia and I think some of the classic rides could use an update, but people would go nuts if that happened

I would agree with much of this. We love WDW, it's a very fun place that we thoroughly enjoy. However, there are definitely some changes I wish they'd make. Really just more of a modernization. My wish list:

Space Mountain- definitely could use an update
Spaceship Earth- for such an iconic location it feels like it needs a bit more than the current ride offers. Although it's great for those hot August days. (So is the Three Caballeros ride in the Mexican Pavilion)
Soarin' - One of my favorite rides but would be nice if they had more than the one show/video. They used to play the California one and the smell of the oranges was pretty cool. I still love the ride, just would be cool if they rotated 2 or 3 "scenes)
Tomorrow Land Speedway- update the cars and track, it's pretty beat up
Peter Pan- update with Tokyo version
Star Tours- Seems to be a great opportunity here to not just update like they did a while back but really make it pretty dang good.

I also think that not as many young children grow up Disney like they did in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s and even into the 90s.
 
I would agree with much of this. We love WDW, it's a very fun place that we thoroughly enjoy. However, there are definitely some changes I wish they'd make. Really just more of a modernization. My wish list:

Space Mountain- definitely could use an update
Spaceship Earth- for such an iconic location it feels like it needs a bit more than the current ride offers. Although it's great for those hot August days. (So is the Three Caballeros ride in the Mexican Pavilion)
Soarin' - One of my favorite rides but would be nice if they had more than the one show/video. They used to play the California one and the smell of the oranges was pretty cool. I still love the ride, just would be cool if they rotated 2 or 3 "scenes)
Tomorrow Land Speedway- update the cars and track, it's pretty beat up
Peter Pan- update with Tokyo version
Star Tours- Seems to be a great opportunity here to not just update like they did a while back but really make it pretty dang good.

I also think that not as many young children grow up Disney like they did in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s and even into the 90s.
Yes i am one of Disney's biggest fans, but I can definitely see where they lack too. I wish Animal Kingdom had more to do as well and im looking forward to the new things coming 😀
 
Yes i am one of Disney's biggest fans, but I can definitely see where they lack too. I wish Animal Kingdom had more to do as well and im looking forward to the new things coming 😀


I am definitely looking forward to all the new stuff, it's too bad the spaceship earth renovation got cancelled during COVID. I think the new additions to AK will be very cool as it's really a great park. Villains land and Cars will also be cool to see.

Now, for my own personal wishes I'd love to see a Robin Hood ride. Loved loved loved that cartoon as a kid in the 70s. Easily my favorite Disney, that and Sword and the Stone.

As for rides my biggest nostalgia ride is Pirates of the Caribbean.

My mother is from California and my grandmother lived in Anaheim when I was a kid. So around 1976 we went to Disney Land and I was obsessed with it. Rode it over and over and over. Then we went to WDW in roughly 1979/1980 and did it all over again but in MK. They were building Epcot at the time, but it wasn't open yet.
 
I am definitely looking forward to all the new stuff, it's too bad the spaceship earth renovation got cancelled during COVID. I think the new additions to AK will be very cool as it's really a great park. Villains land and Cars will also be cool to see.

Now, for my own personal wishes I'd love to see a Robin Hood ride. Loved loved loved that cartoon as a kid in the 70s. Easily my favorite Disney, that and Sword and the Stone.

As for rides my biggest nostalgia ride is Pirates of the Caribbean.

My mother is from California and my grandmother lived in Anaheim when I was a kid. So around 1976 we went to Disney Land and I was obsessed with it. Rode it over and over and over. Then we went to WDW in roughly 1979/1980 and did it all over again but in MK. They were building Epcot at the time, but it wasn't open yet.
Yes it makes me laugh when people are crying about the section that's being changed for cars like hardly anyone goes there 😅

I am from Cali and the first time i went to Disneyland I was 7 years old and I loved the Matterhorn and rode it over and over.
I didn't really get obsessed with Disney until I worked there during the 50th anniversary. I noticed that happens a lot to CMs, I think they brainwash us or maybe because we're there so much 🤣🤣

Anyways it was pretty magical to be placed in Fantasyland attractions during that time and operate all of the classic attractions Peter Pan, Snow White, Mr Toad, Pinocchio, Dumbo, Casey Jr. And Alice in Wonderland. I remember being scared the first time I had to walk through Snow White at night and how fascinated I was to see what Peter Pan looked like with all the lights off 🤣🤣 Working there you dont get paid much, but you make lifelong friends and memories. The most fun job ive ever had.

My wife grew up in Mexico and Donald and Daisy were huge there so she is about that. I am a Minnie fan. Im happy she enjoys going and is nostalgic about the cartoons, but the rides didnt do it for her and I understood why. She is still a trooper and loves the whole experience thank God, I think that would be a deal breaker 🤣🤣
 















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