COVID super spreading family we know **Our friend has passed away**

[hsmamato2]

As long as you all keep that narrative, nothing can be discussed. It's a fight not a discussion. Not once have I heard anyone saying they don't care that almost 300k Americans have died. Not a single person has said this. How do you catch it and die if you don't interact with these people who "don't care"? My suggestion is and always has been, stop interacting with people if you think you are going to die by interacting with people.

sorry but your response is nonsensical to that post.... By plainly stating "I refuse to change any of my patterns in any way bc I'm not *scared*" that is stating outright that you just don't care enough about the overall effects of this on our population to change any behaviors of your own. YES, that is a very clear way of saying ou don't care enough to try to change anything to help the problem.
And your previous "if you're scared then quit interacting" response is also nonsensical. There is no way to completely halt ALL interaction with ALL people at ALL times. (well, maybe possible bet even then we're all still breathing the same atmosphere on earth here...) I mean...where does it end (or even begin?) Yes,you can do pretty much do what you want. But should you? And IMHO yes,we have folks working out there daily,and (hopefully) trying to stay as safe as possible for themselves and those they serve (or does that make those essential workers "scared"?) There is a WORLD of difference between "I'll do whatever I please" and trying to safely carry on essential work for our own and others benefit.

 

[Dan Murphy]

Asking for this thread to be closed. Has drifted into another back and forth COVID thread.

 

[jaybirdsmommy]

As long as you all keep that narrative, nothing can be discussed. It's a fight not a discussion. Not once have I heard anyone saying they don't care that almost 300k Americans have died. Not a single person has said this. How do you catch it and die if you don't interact with these people who "don't care"? My suggestion is and always has been, stop interacting with people if you think you are going to die by interacting with people.

How do I stop interacting with people? Please tell me how to do this?

My husband missed 7 weeks of work due to covid and got screwed out of unemployment for that time period by his employer. His small side business took a huge hit when the local college sent students home and stopped having sporting events in the spring. He doesn't qualify for small business aid for our state because he has 1 (yes, 1) client just over the border in a neighboring state. All that to say, I have to work. I have to feed my kids. I have to pay our bills and keep the roof over our heads. Is it too much to ask people to take reasonable precautions to protect others? I can't work from home. I've used up all my sick time being in quarantine at various points throughout the year. I don't think I'm the only one in this boat.

I have no way of knowing who is taking precautions and who isn't. It isn't about fear, it's about protecting others. If you don't want to follow the established protocol for protecting those around you, then you stay home.

 

[maxiesmom]

I think it is the ones who are not scared, and pile into the stores but either don't wear a mask or pull it down whenever they feel like it, who are the problem. The ones who are scared to be out and about, and yet have to go out for one reason or another, are most likely being very cautious.

 

[Farro]

I think it is the ones who are not scared, and pile into the stores but either don't wear a mask or pull it down whenever they feel like it, who are the problem. The ones who are scared to be out and about, and yet have to go out for one reason or another, are most likely being very cautious.

Those are two extreme points of view...

Then there are people like me. I'm not scared, we do our own shopping, go in the stores, go in Starbucks or whatever, go pick up take-out. We wear masks and social distance. I mean, we live 2 blocks from Target, the pull is strong...

You can be cautious and also not be scared to be out and about.

 

[BrianL]

Those are two extreme points of view...

Then there are people like me. I'm not scared, we do our own shopping, go in the stores, go in Starbucks or whatever, go pick up take-out. We wear masks and social distance. I mean, we live 2 blocks from Target, the pull is strong...

You can be cautious and also not be scared to be out and about.

This is what I do. I wear a mask, but do go to stores and get food. I have eaten inside some places, but only places that I have seen being cautious - I keep my mask on until the I have my food and the server has left (usually these are just counter service places where they drop your order at the table). I am washing my hands and just generally using common sense. Is there a still a risk? Sure, but I feel it is sufficiently mitigated.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I think it is the ones who are not scared, and pile into the stores but either don't wear a mask or pull it down whenever they feel like it, who are the problem. The ones who are scared to be out and about, and yet have to go out for one reason or another, are most likely being very cautious.

Being cautious and being scared aren't the same thing or mutually exclusive.

 

[maxiesmom]

Those are two extreme points of view...

Then there are people like me. I'm not scared, we do our own shopping, go in the stores, go in Starbucks or whatever, go pick up take-out. We wear masks and social distance. I mean, we live 2 blocks from Target, the pull is strong...

You can be cautious and also not be scared to be out and about.

I was mostly replying to the idea that those who are fearful should just stay home.

 

[maxiesmom]

Being cautious and being scared aren't the same thing or mutually exclusive.

Never said otherwise. My comments were driven by the poster who seems to think those who are scared should just stay home. It isn't that simple.

 

[dvcgirl67]

Well...as I said earlier in this thread....my family (sisters, parents, in-laws)....have all been pretty cautious. We do all grocery shop, but have been limiting that in the last month as cases rise. We are all making conscious decisions to be out less frequently. We don't mix households. No other kids allowed inside to hang with my teen niece/nephrew.

And....then today my sister woke up not feeling great. She's 50 years old and in good shape. She does have Rheumatoid Arthritis and takes Humera daily, which can suppress immune system. She said that she woke up in the middle of the night with a "weird headache....not a normal headache". Took Advil, back to sleep to wake up later feeling achy all over and a slightly "weird feeling" in her chest. She said she feels feverish, but has no temp.

Was tested earlier and had the rapid and PCR test done. The rapid test came back positive by the time she got home, and she was told that means she's almost 100% likely to be positive with the PCR test. So...they're all not allowed to go anywhere for 10 days, have to isolate. And we'll all hope that my sister doesn't get worse....odds are she won't. But still...as her older sister I worry. I dropped off a pulse oximeter and soup....because....2020.

My sister has been as careful as one can be without staying inside, never leaving and having everything delivered. I guess at this point there is just a ton of virus out there. Feels like a crapshoot at times....still, I'll continue to do what I've been doing.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Never said otherwise. My comments were driven by the poster who seems to think those who are scared should just stay home. It isn't that simple.

I totally got that and would agree it's not that simple at all. It was just your comment came across like either/or. I can see now that wasn't your intention.

 

[hsmamato2]

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[choirfarm]

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[Dan Murphy]

While the thread is still open, just updating....

The husband friend of ours, at the top of the list in the OP, went to the hospital today. He is 78. Has a temperature and low oxygen. Wishing the best for him, tough times. Our prayers are with him and family.

 

[dvcgirl67]

While the thread is still open, just updating....

The husband friend of ours, at the top of the list in the OP, went to the hospital today. He is 78. Has a temperature and low oxygen. Wishing the best for him, tough times. Our prayers are with him and family.

Oh Boy...really hope your friend is ok. How long ago did he test positive?

 

[choirfarm]

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[Dan Murphy]

Oh Boy...really hope your friend is ok. How long ago did he test positive?

I think this past Friday, like 3 or 4 days ago.

Praying!!! Hope he gets better soon.

Thank you both.

 

[HeatherC]

Asking for this thread to be closed. Has drifted into another back and forth COVID thread.

They all do lately. Same people saying the same things over and over again. And people are so snarky lately. Uggh.

 

[Jrb1979]

Because other people have to break their bubbles to help get your non-essential deliveries to your door. There are actual people involved to deliver stuff and they can’t maintain their bubbles even though the daily gospel from the same people keep saying how important it is to do so.

Your bubble is maintained because millions of other people are going to work.

THE DIFFERENCE IS WHEN YOU ARE OUT IN PUBLIC EVEN IF YOU ARE AROUND A BUNCH OF STRANGERS, YOU ARE WEARING A MASK AND SOCIAL DISTANCING. At home people don't do either of those things. When you invite people over you have a higher chance of getting Covid then you do lined up to get into a store. Which also explains the high number of cases coming from gatherings.

I am sick and tired of the many who don't take this seriously. Wait til you have a family member die from Covid. Maybe then you will understand.

 

[Jrb1979]

They all do lately. Same people saying the same things over and over again. And people are so snarky lately. Uggh.

Maybe if people took this seriously people would be less snarky.