Covid And The Rest of Us

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I will be getting the vaccine as soon as I’m eligible as well. Not sure where I fall in the rankings, Ontario has quite the broad groupings. There are rumors of including teachers in the next group. While I’m not a teacher I am a casual school board employee who is face to face with kids each day when we are in school. I miss school btw, for my kids AND myself. Glad to be safe right now but man I hope things calm down and we get back in there soon!
 
I presume that's in Florida? Tell us a little bit about how that works. Are there priority groupings or can anybody get it right now? Where are the shots being administered? Is there any cost? I'm sure it's been discussed on many other threads but I haven't waded through them enough to understand exactly what's what.
In Fla. My parents are in the 80’s. They signed up along with the others. In fact my wife did it for them. They were given a second appointment when getting the first shot. In and out. No long lines like the news up north likes to show. Made them wait 15 mins after the shot. Total time was about 30 mins including that wait.
 
In Fla. My parents are in the 80’s. They signed up along with the others. In fact my wife did it for them. They were given a second appointment when getting the first shot. In and out. No long lines like the news up north likes to show. Made them wait 15 mins after the shot. Total time was about 30 mins including that wait.
Was anyone allowed to "sign up" or are there priority groupings? What kind of facility?
 

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Schools for kids till 12 years old will reopen here in NL on the 8th :) Childcare will reopen. Also stores will be allowed for click and collect at the stores.
The official announcement for the new measures will be tomorrow.

Figures are going down (not fast enough), but the measures do not weigh up to the damage it does to society.
If figures keep going down the curfew will end on the 10th.
 
To answer some questions about vaccination procedures here in the States. Each state is doing things a little differently which would be expected since each state has handled the pandemic differently. Some of the smaller states are doing a great job in getting there seniors and essential workers vaccinated. The larger states are having some issues. I can give you what is happening in NY. We are currently vaccinating anyone 65 or older and essential workers - police, health care, fire, EMT, teachers, grocery store clerks (It is a group of 7.1 million people). According to the governor all nursing home residents and staff who want the vaccine has already been vaccinated. The roll out has been bumpy to say the least. You are required to have an appointment . On the first day of eligibility the pharmacies and health departments were overwhelmed with calls. My father who is 78 and lives with us called multiple pharmacies and his doctors office to be told that the pharmacies do not have the vaccine and his doctors office is doing it like the lottery system. I am a teacher and went online to find the only appointments were still for health care workers (my husband is considered a health care worker since he is part of testing students at the college he works for). I kept looking for availability on the state's website - must have filled out the information at least 50 times between my father and myself. Finally was able to book an appointment for both of us and hour away at a state run distribution site. We went for our first shot on January a 18th (Pfizer) and we booked our second shot while waiting the 15 minutes for February 8th (I am hoping for no snow storms like we are getting this week - the site had to be shut down tomorrow due the expected foot or more of snow. The appointments are being rescheduled). If I was not computer savvy and basically spent every spare minute in between my classes refreshing pages we would still be waiting. That is the biggest complaint is the computer system for a group of people who are not computer literate or who may not even have a computer or smart phone. In the inner city the county has had a couple of pop up events for seniors who do not have the ability to drive to one of the state distribution sites. They held one at a church and one at a senior living facilities (Not a long term care or nursing home). This is a big issue how to bring the vaccine to the city population who can not drive to the state sites. I think the county is going to do more events that bring the vaccine to them.

Sorry this got long but wanted to give you an idea of what is going on in NY states.
ETA: No cost for the vaccine and at the state run site they did not even as for my health insurance. My husband went to a county run site and he needed to provide health insurance.
 
https://www.thejournal.ie/airport-travel-offence-5341465-Feb2021
Going to the airport to leave Ireland without a valid reason is now an offence

It has now been made a specific offence to travel to an airport to leave Ireland without a reasonable excuse.

The provision was introduced by way of a Statutory Instrument signed by Health Minister Stephen Donnelly on Friday and means that people in breach can now be subject to a fine of €500.

The specific offence was introduced under the provisions of the emergency Covid-19 measures that were passed in the Dáil last year.

Last week the government sought to clamp down on travel into and out of the country and announced its intention to introduced a system of mandatory hotel quarantine for arrivals.

Prime Minister Micheál Martin was specifically critical of people who may be leaving the country and returning for the purposes of a holiday.

Police also increased their visible presence at entry points, including checkpoints at airports to ensure people were travelling for essential reasons.

The bolster these efforts, a specific offence is now in force that makes it a penal offence for individuals to “leave his or her place of residence to go to an airport or port for the purpose of leaving the State without reasonable excuse”.

Among the reasonable excuses include:
  • to leave the country if not ordinary a resident
  • for work reasons
  • to provide the functions of an elected office holder
  • for educational reasons
  • to attend a medical or dental appointment
  • seek medical assistance for themselves or a vulnerable person
  • to attend to vital family matters (including providing care to vulnerable persons)
  • to attend a funeral
  • to fulfil a legal obligation (such as attend court)
  • child access arrangements
Regulations surrounding the mandatory quarantining of individuals arriving into Ireland has not yet been published.

Deputy Prime Minister Leo Varadkar said last week it may take “a few weeks to operationalise” the new travel restrictions.

The plans would compel people arriving into this country to undertake mandatory quarantine either at home or in a hotel. “In most cases” people would be quarantining at home.

Persons arriving from Brazil and South Africa or those without a negative PCR test will be required to quarantine in a designated facility such as a hotel, with that quarantine lasting for 14-days.
 
Schools for kids till 12 years old will reopen here in NL on the 8th :) Childcare will reopen. Also stores will be allowed for click and collect at the stores.
The official announcement for the new measures will be tomorrow.

Figures are going down (not fast enough), but the measures do not weigh up to the damage it does to society.
If figures keep going down the curfew will end on the 10th.
Salons and table-service dining resume here on February 8, under the same strict conditions they were observing when the clamp-down was imposed in November. There is great elation in the hospitality and personal services industries but it will be interesting (and sad) to see which places don’t open up because they went into insolvency over the past 3 months. There were lots and lots of places that didn’t re-open after the first shut-down last spring. 119,000 hospitality workers were laid-off that time and according to the news, about 15,000 were permanent job losses.

It’s a good decision on the part of government. People here are reaching the end of their patience and quiet defiance of the rules is mounting. I’m not talking about marches or riots - that’s not really our way. More so just people individually going outside the rules, especially in the smaller and more isolated parts of the province where there is next to no Covid and the restrictions seem ridiculous. Allowing the very strict conditional re-opening is safer than people just clandestinely doing their own thing. We saw a good reduction in cases AFTER people were permitted to meet again outdoors and with precautions; the previous draconian ban on any and all in-person social interactions had the opposite effect because it drove people underground into much riskier conditions.
 
Borrowed from another thread here on the CB: Has anyone here yet received their vaccination, and/or do you intend to be vaccinated when it is available to you?

Nations world-wide are all at various stages of vaccine availability and priority protocols. I think it would be an interesting to hear from one another what's happening in real-time in our respective regions.

Canada has currently approved both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines but we do not have production facilities for either of them here. Our first doses arrived and were distributed to the provinces in late December. Priority phasing is the jurisdiction of each province's Ministry of Health, as is the delivery of all healthcare. Things are rolling out a little differently province-to-province and at this moment, we are in a holding-pattern nationally due to supply chain disruptions.

As for me, I certainly intend to be vaccinated, with whichever product is available as soon as I qualify - no qualms whatsoever. I haven't been vaccinated yet nor has anyone I know. Alberta's Group 1 was front-line healthcare providers and 1(b) was extended care facility workers and residents in those facilities. We almost got first doses into all of those people before the supply dried up but not quite. Announcements about who will be included in Group 2 will not be formalized until we have surety of supply again, hopefully by mid-February.

In Ohio we are vaccinating, starting this week, anyone 70 and older, teachers in K-12 grades (this does not include preschools, daycares or colleges) and others with certain medical issues that put them at a higher risk. My grandparents (85) and DH's grandmother (79) have received their first dose. My mom , a teacher, is getting her first dose on Thursday. First responders and medical was in the previous group. Some are having trouble getting an appointment. I am not sure how my grandparents got one but they are in a smaller county and things seem to be much smoother there. In my county, which is one of the biggest in the state, is having more trouble. I sat on line for an hour or 2 refreshing the many different site pages to find one for DH's grandmother. My mom's, in the smaller county, was scheduled through the county working with the schools. The whole county now has off school on Thursday so all teachers in the county that want the vaccine will get it this day.

DH and I will get the vaccine. It is just a matter of when we will be allowed. We will be in the last group as we are in our 40's and no medical issues. It is looking like it will be at some point in the summer. I don't care which one I get (Pfizer or Mederna). I just want to get vaccinated. DH is hoping for Johnson and Johnson, if they effectiveness is high. It is one shot and he gets really high BP just getting his check up that is done at his work. He gets worked up with anything to do with doctors or medical stuff. One shot would be much better for him. He will get the other 2 if Johnson and Johnson is not as affective.
 
In my state there's state guidance but counties have discretion and some wiggle room. The state wants them to generally follow them and thus has announcements but as the health director put is they don't have to be "lockstep" in line. If you have excess vaccines and have checked surrounding counties for their needs you can proceed ahead. Presently my state is in Phase 2 with leftover Phase 1 to get through.

Right now due to supply my county opted to do age 80+ last week (which is technically not in the state's plan it was simply 65+) after starting with healthcare workers, this week is 65+ and teachers and the priority with the teachers is the state's School for the Deaf and special education teachers. My state has 5 phases and various tiers within them. Presently I would qualify under Phase 4, my husband right now Phase 5. We plan to get them. As for our family members....that's worrisome. I told my husband it's going to be an issue if our social circle largely opts out though I was happy to hear that despite initially saying no father-in-law did get his first dose a few weeks ago (he works for a main health system in the metro). That is the only person in my immediate social circle I know that has gotten it. I have a friend several hours away from me that is an EMT who did get his.

In the States healthcare workers and LTC were first for basically all states. What was considered a healthcare worker varied some though between the states.

Phase 1 in my state was (and they are still finishing those up):

• Health care workers
• Residents or patients in long-term care facilities and senior housing
• Workers critical to pandemic response continuity



Phase 2 in my state has the following and represents about 30-33% of the state's population:

• Persons aged 65 and older

• High-contact critical workers necessary to maintain systems, assets, and activities that are vital to the state security, the economy or public health, or who interact with large numbers of contacts and job-related COVID-19 exposure. COVID-19 risk is associated with the likelihood of infecting oneself or spreading the virus. Factors that increase risk include proximity, type of contact, duration of contacts and challenges to implement protective measures. This includes:
o Firefighters, police officers, first responders, and correction officers
o Grocery store workers and food services
o K-12 and childcare workers, including teachers, custodians, drivers, and other staff
o Food processing, including meat processing plants
o Large-scale aviation manufacturing plants
o Transportation workers
o Workers in retail, agriculture, supply of critical services or materials for COVID-19 response, the U.S. Postal Service, and Department of motor vehicles

• Those living or working in licensed congregate settings and other special care or congregate environments where social distancing is not possible, including:
o Homeless shelters
o Congregate childcare institutions
o Emergency shelters or safe houses
o Corrections facilities
o Behavioral health institutions

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What has come to light in recent weeks is the Federal program partnership with CVS and Walgreens for long-term care facilities seemed like a good idea but it hasn't lived up to its expectations and is considered too slow in getting one of our most vulnerable groups of people vaccinated. It is allowable now to pull excess vaccine from CVS and Walgreens and redistribute it within a state. The state next to me is doing this to try and help get more people vaccinated and has pulled 25,000 doses to be "re-routed to county health departments, medical hospitals and clinics, and hundreds of other state-approved vaccinators." I don't know if my state is doing that and I haven't heard of dissatisfaction with the Federal program from my governor but it's abundantly clear it's an issue in general with it.

West Virginia has been in the news quite a lot for being very successful in distributing their doses. Of special note, part of their success is they are the only state in the U.S. to NOT sign up for the Federal program for CVS and Walgreens for long-term care facilities and have opted to do their own distribution with pharmacies in part due to low number of CVS and Walgreens located within that state and instead they have more of independent pharmacies. I know not everyone is a fan of letting states do their own thing but it's been my opinion throughout this pandemic that some decisions are truly best left up to a state. It always reminds me of my insurance call center days. Decisions made too high up always resulted in problems for us lowly folks. The high up folks never knew what it was actually like to take the phone calls and there were a lot of times we sat there wondering how they could have possibly thought this was going to go over well for xyz to occur. Resources shouldn't be left up to the states though.
 
In my state there's state guidance but counties have discretion and some wiggle room. The state wants them to generally follow them and thus has announcements but as the health director put is they don't have to be "lockstep" in line. If you have excess vaccines and have checked surrounding counties for their needs you can proceed ahead. Presently my state is in Phase 2 with leftover Phase 1 to get through.

Right now due to supply my county opted to do age 80+ last week (which is technically not in the state's plan it was simply 65+) after starting with healthcare workers, this week is 65+ and teachers and the priority with the teachers is the state's School for the Deaf and special education teachers. My state has 5 phases and various tiers within them. Presently I would qualify under Phase 4, my husband right now Phase 5. We plan to get them. As for our family members....that's worrisome. I told my husband it's going to be an issue if our social circle largely opts out though I was happy to hear that despite initially saying no father-in-law did get his first dose a few weeks ago (he works for a main health system in the metro). That is the only person in my immediate social circle I know that has gotten it. I have a friend several hours away from me that is an EMT who did get his.

In the States healthcare workers and LTC were first for basically all states. What was considered a healthcare worker varied some though between the states.

Phase 1 in my state was (and they are still finishing those up):

• Health care workers
• Residents or patients in long-term care facilities and senior housing
• Workers critical to pandemic response continuity



Phase 2 in my state has the following and represents about 30-33% of the state's population:

• Persons aged 65 and older

• High-contact critical workers necessary to maintain systems, assets, and activities that are vital to the state security, the economy or public health, or who interact with large numbers of contacts and job-related COVID-19 exposure. COVID-19 risk is associated with the likelihood of infecting oneself or spreading the virus. Factors that increase risk include proximity, type of contact, duration of contacts and challenges to implement protective measures. This includes:
o Firefighters, police officers, first responders, and correction officers
o Grocery store workers and food services
o K-12 and childcare workers, including teachers, custodians, drivers, and other staff
o Food processing, including meat processing plants
o Large-scale aviation manufacturing plants
o Transportation workers
o Workers in retail, agriculture, supply of critical services or materials for COVID-19 response, the U.S. Postal Service, and Department of motor vehicles

• Those living or working in licensed congregate settings and other special care or congregate environments where social distancing is not possible, including:
o Homeless shelters
o Congregate childcare institutions
o Emergency shelters or safe houses
o Corrections facilities
o Behavioral health institutions

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What has come to light in recent weeks is the Federal program partnership with CVS and Walgreens for long-term care facilities seemed like a good idea but it hasn't lived up to its expectations and is considered too slow in getting one of our most vulnerable groups of people vaccinated. It is allowable now to pull excess vaccine from CVS and Walgreens and redistribute it within a state. The state next to me is doing this to try and help get more people vaccinated and has pulled 25,000 doses to be "re-routed to county health departments, medical hospitals and clinics, and hundreds of other state-approved vaccinators." I don't know if my state is doing that and I haven't heard of dissatisfaction with the Federal program from my governor but it's abundantly clear it's an issue in general with it.

West Virginia has been in the news quite a lot for being very successful in distributing their doses. Of special note, part of their success is they are the only state in the U.S. to NOT sign up for the Federal program for CVS and Walgreens for long-term care facilities and have opted to do their own distribution with pharmacies in part due to low number of CVS and Walgreens located within that state and instead they have more of independent pharmacies. I know not everyone is a fan of letting states do their own thing but it's been my opinion throughout this pandemic that some decisions are truly best left up to a state. It always reminds me of my insurance call center days. Decisions made too high up always resulted in problems for us lowly folks. The high up folks never knew what it was actually like to take the phone calls and there were a lot of times we sat there wondering how they could have possibly thought this was going to go over well for xyz to occur. Resources shouldn't be left up to the states though.
I agree about the States. I have a friend who works for CVS as a Pharmacist and has work the past 2 Saturdays doing vaccines at long-term facilities 12-hour shifts. My Kid got her Vaccine right away College Student who works at a Hospital her roommate also. We got my MIL signed up right away online with minimal wait-signing up that is and she gets her 2nd tomorrow. My dad says his friends ( over 75)are not having any trouble except for waiting online to sign up for a half-hour or so. My dad and his wife had covid so they will wait the 90 days. I think in my area Teachers and those who work in Factories should be next.
 
... We went for our first shot on January a 18th (Pfizer) and we booked our second shot while waiting the 15 minutes for February 8th (I am hoping for no snow storms like we are getting this week - the site had to be shut down tomorrow due the expected foot or more of snow. The appointments are being rescheduled). If I was not computer savvy and basically spent every spare minute in between my classes refreshing pages we would still be waiting. That is the biggest complaint is the computer system for a group of people who are not computer literate or who may not even have a computer or smart phone. In the inner city the county has had a couple of pop up events for seniors who do not have the ability to drive to one of the state distribution sites. They held one at a church and one at a senior living facilities (Not a long term care or nursing home). This is a big issue how to bring the vaccine to the city population who can not drive to the state sites. I think the county is going to do more events that bring the vaccine to them.

Sorry this got long but wanted to give you an idea of what is going on in NY states.
ETA: No cost for the vaccine and at the state run site they did not even as for my health insurance. My husband went to a county run site and he needed to provide health insurance.
Here's an interesting thing that happened in Oregon:
Health workers administer COVID vaccine to motorists stuck in snow storm (msn.com)
 
Borrowed from another thread here on the CB: Has anyone here yet received their vaccination, and/or do you intend to be vaccinated when it is available to you?

As soon as we are eligible, all 3 of us will be getting vaccinated! DS only turns 16 in early July so he is not able to get one until after that. Based on the Canada Vaccine Queue Calculator which is based on current levels, we are estimated to get both doses between September 2021 and April 2022. :crazy2: I'm really hoping that date changes for the better as soon as vaccines start coming into Canada faster.
 
As soon as we are eligible, all 3 of us will be getting vaccinated! DS only turns 16 in early July so he is not able to get one until after that. Based on the Canada Vaccine Queue Calculator which is based on current levels, we are estimated to get both doses between September 2021 and April 2022. :crazy2: I'm really hoping that date changes for the better as soon as vaccines start coming into Canada faster.
Although it is not quite through the approval process here in Canada yet, I am rooting hard for the J&J vaccine. It's a one-dose, non mRNA product that, although it's not proving quite as effective as the current one in preventing transmission, is apparently almost 100% successful in preventing sever outcomes. I think it's a very, very sensible option for many priority groups and the flexibility in transport and storage will be a big deal. Canada has pre-ordered 36,000,000 doses apparently ready to ship as soon as the approvals are in place.
Canada has 'no delivery schedule' for Johnson & Johnson vaccine - iPolitics
 
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