coronavirus

[Mainsail Minnie]

I just added three nights to our trip in early June. We'll just have to wait and see. What else can we do? I'm not going to cancel unless the situation is truly dire by that time. It seems inevitable that the virus will be everywhere soon, so why hide?

I'm an elementary schoolteacher and am put into close physical contact every year with sick kids who have the flu, strep, pink eye, etc. This winter was noticeably bad for all that, before coronavirus was even widely heard of. I usually manage to avoid illness through stringent handwashing & disinfection, and practice the same habits while on vacation. It works. I suppose being able to keep myself healthy at work gives me confidence for dealing with an outbreak like this. And the fact that most cases are mild.

I live in a medium-sized city that has a good number of Asian immigrants, so there is plenty of travel between here & China. I don't think hiding from this virus is an option, frankly. I'm not retired. I still have to work, shop, eat, etc. I might as well get to enjoy a vacation, too.

 

[Sandiz08]

We arrive July, hopefully the effects of the virus are a bit more clear by then. Only thing that gives me apprehension is traveling by airplane. Don't have flights booked yet, but with all that is happening, I'm not in a hurry.

 

[Heather07438]

I just added three nights to our trip in early June. We'll just have to wait and see. What else can we do? I'm not going to cancel unless the situation is truly dire by that time. It seems inevitable that the virus will be everywhere soon, so why hide?

I'm an elementary schoolteacher and am put into close physical contact every year with sick kids who have the flu, strep, pink eye, etc. This winter was noticeably bad for all that, before coronavirus was even widely heard of. I usually manage to avoid illness through stringent handwashing & disinfection, and practice the same habits while on vacation. It works. I suppose being able to keep myself healthy at work gives me confidence for dealing with an outbreak like this. And the fact that most cases are mild.

I live in a medium-sized city that has a good number of Asian immigrants, so there is plenty of travel between here & China. I don't think hiding from this virus is an option, frankly. I'm not retired. I still have to work, shop, eat, etc. I might as well get to enjoy a vacation, too.

You have probably built up a pretty good immune system at school too

 

[quandrea]

Ugh...after 180 days of meticulous planning, I'm waiting to pull the plug on this trip...We are DVC members with a lot of invested points in this trip for nine (3-Bedroom, Boardwalk Villa end of April for 7 nights). Booked our airfare using credit card points, not sure what would happen with them...and bought all our multi-day tickets with cash. Fingers crossed this too will pass, or at least quiet down a bit for our trip!

Im in the same boat. Lots of points on the line, not to mention two years of anticipation for a huge family gathering.

 

[BellaPetunia]

This is something I saw in The Wall Street Journal yesterday, the Article was All Your Coronavirus Travel Questions Answered.

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"What about crowded places or events? Should I cancel my spring-break vacation to Walt Disney World?

No. There are still relatively few cases in the U.S., pointed out Dr. Lisa Lockerd Maragakis, senior director of infection prevention for the Johns Hopkins Health System, and the new coronavirus isn’t a reason to avoid events or gathering places. “We may get to the point where that is a public health measure that is recommended,” she said. “But we’re not at that point now.”
Still, you should think twice in countries where the virus has spread more widely. “It makes sense to avoid crowded places where there’s ongoing person-to-person transmission,” Dr. Kappagoda said."

Didn't see it shared yet, but I thought I would since it specifically mentions Disney.

 

[DaisyNY]

Im in the same boat. Lots of points on the line, not to mention two years of anticipation for a huge family gathering.

Good luck...really keeping my fingers crossed on this one!

 

[ISUamanda]

Yes!! And the flu has a higher death rate than coronavirus. I'm not worried about 2 people who have coronavirus in FL when 20 people in my state have died of the flu this season. Keep it in perspective.

This isn't true. Seasonal flu has a mortality rate of ~0.1%, corona virus so somewhere between 6 and 20 times higher (data is a bit fuzzy, but experts seem in agreement that it's much higher than seasonal flu).

 

[bagpiper]

US Low Infection Numbers = Low Tests Administered

People who have been exposed, do not have severe symptoms, ARE NOT Tested

As some have posted about this is a regular flu, please under this is not the regular Flu

The Regular Flu doesnt make countries worldwide quarantine entire cities (11 Million People in a single city), Close schools for several weeks, cancel planned public gatherings, Close borders/Travel/Flights, Companies like Google are directing employees to work from home, Amazon instructing their 798,000 Employees to cancel all International & Domestic Travel, etc

Looking at how fast it spreads, Remember keep in mind these numbers are based on those who have been Tested !!!

ITALY
- 2/19/20 had a couple of cases,
- 2/24/20 it jumped to 200
- - RESPONSE: Quarantined 11 Cities with 58,000 people in the north.
- 3/3/20 reports of 1,835 people infected

Thats about 1,635 new cases in 8 Days from 2/24/20 - 3/2/20

There are several reports/opinions from the medical community worldwide studying the virus that they are seeing evidence that the virus has been present amongst the populace long before any of the first patients became symptomatic.

 

[bagpiper]

As I just posted my previous post, just heard the first case in Westchester County, NY, a community just north of NYC and it was a community spread case

The man had traveled to Miami by air and commutes on Metro North Railroad from Westchester to NYC the last past two weeks

 

[Spridell]

As I just posted my previous post, just heard the first case in Westchester County, NY, a community just north of NYC and it was a community spread case

The man had traveled to Miami by air and commutes on Metro North Railroad from Westchester to NYC the last past two weeks

I do not think there will be a way to get REAL numbers.

There will be many many many cases of people getting the Virus and not being tested for it. CDC and doctors have said a HEALTHY person will not have severe symptoms and it will run it's course and that's it. So with that being said we will never have TRUE numbers.

 

[bagpiper]

I spoke with my Dr yesterday and the scary thing he said children DO NOT exhibit symptoms unlike the way adults do, so picking up on whether they are sick is really difficult

 

[Dream is a Wish]

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[Spridell]

As of today, there are now 3 cases in Florida. One is "Presumptive Positive". The third case is the sister of one of the first two cases identified in Florida, a Hillsborough County woman who traveled to Italy. Source is Herald Tribune and Florida Health website. Number of people under Public Health Monitoring in Florida is now 247.

My guess a number of those people are people that were on the same plane as the woman or same train or bus or whatever the man was on etc....

There really is no way to know.

If I were a betting man, I would bet there are people right now at Disney World that have been exposed to someone who has had contact with with someone has the virus and so on. Probably even people walking around Disney right now who have the virus.

Not saying it to scare people but, like I have been saying and the CDC says, there will be people who get the virus and think its just a cold or something and will never get tested.

 

[jennyq87]

In my opinion, those in this thread should be much less concerned about catching the coronavirus than they should be about getting quarantined for 14 days because you could have been potentially exposed to it.

THIS! We have a European cruise scheduled for September and it's not the virus itself i'm concerned about, but a potential quarantine. A 2 week cruise + a 2 week quarantine would not be good. Also, though -- I think it's important to be considerate of others in times like these. Just because it won't kill YOU because you're young and healthy, doesn't mean you won't accidentally pass it an immunocompromised person and kill them. There's more to it than how it will affect you personally.

 

[ofcabbagesandkings]

THIS! We have a European cruise scheduled for September and it's not the virus itself i'm concerned about, but a potential quarantine. A 2 week cruise + a 2 week quarantine would not be good. Also, though -- I think it's important to be considerate of others in times like these. Just because it won't kill YOU because you're young and healthy, doesn't mean you won't accidentally pass it an immunocompromised person and kill them. There's more to it than how it will affect you personally.

Agree. I don't get the flu shot for myself, I get it to protect my kids and my elderly relatives. Likewise, I want to avoid catching this and passing it on to my elderly relatives even if I am asymptomatic.

 

[la79al]

Just got back this morning. Saw a handful of people wearing masks in the parks. No one on the plane ride down was wearing a mask while about 10/105 were on the way home, as well as several wandering around the airport at 10pm. TBH, glad our trip is over and I don't have to make the agonizing decision to cancel. I would never forgive myself if I 'had' to go to Disney only to have someone in my family affected by Coronavirus because of it. I understand not living in fear but I also understand being smart with risk taking.

 

[eeyoreandtink]

This isn't true. Seasonal flu has a mortality rate of ~0.1%, corona virus so somewhere between 6 and 20 times higher (data is a bit fuzzy, but experts seem in agreement that it's much higher than seasonal flu).

The data size is too limited to make that comparison accurately. If you look at flu data in the province where this originated vs corona virus the death rate normalizes much more closely. Even that is not an accurate assumption though because there are not enough people infected as yet for statistically significant data to be collected. That alone is telling as to how overhyped this really is. Also, no one is talking about the statistics on those who have recovered, or tested positive and never required treatment. That number is approaching 2/3 of all cases.

For that vast majority of those who contract it, this is a relatively minor respiratory virus, just like flu, SARS, MERS, RSV, H1N1 and the multitude of other acronyms floating around. We didn't shut down the country and go into panic mode for any of these. Data are starting to indicate that most people infected experience little more than common cold symptoms, although again the amount of data to be analyzed is still small, but what we have is pointing more in this direction. Certain groups are more at risk than others from any repository virus and will have a higher incidence of complications. For RSV that is infacnts. Similarly, the elderly seem to be the at risk group for this virus.

This thing has been over hyped by the media as some kind of killer pandemic. We have, what, 100 or so cases in the US, or of millions of people? H1N1 KILLED 12,000 people in the US and no one was doomsday prepping for that. I think we need a little perspective on this.

 

[eeyoreandtink]

Just got back this morning. Saw a handful of people wearing masks in the parks. No one on the plane ride down was wearing a mask while about 10/105 were on the way home, as well as several wandering around the airport at 10pm. TBH, glad our trip is over and I don't have to make the agonizing decision to cancel. I would never forgive myself if I 'had' to go to Disney only to have someone in my family affected by Coronavirus because of it. I understand not living in fear but I also understand being smart with risk taking.

Unless you have someone in your group elderly or with underlying health issues, being effected by Coronavirus would in the vast majority of cases be basically the same as being effected by the flu or common cold.

I agree with being smart. If I was traveling wit h a 80 year old, I might t think twice, but otherwise for us being smart means doing the same things we do in flu season, washing hands and using sanitizer when we can't.

 

[eeyoreandtink]

I spoke with my Dr yesterday and the scary thing he said children DO NOT exhibit symptoms unlike the way adults do, so picking up on whether they are sick is really difficult

They won't be "sick" in most cases. Many don't even know that have it as in most people, it just presents as a cold.

 

[osufeth24]

The data size is too limited to make that comparison accurately. If you look at flu data in the province where this originated vs corona virus the death rate normalizes much more closely. Even that is not an accurate assumption though because there are not enough people infected as yet for statistically significant data to be collected. That alone is telling as to how overhyped this really is. Also, no one is talking about the statistics on those who have recovered, or tested positive and never required treatment. That number is approaching 2/3 of all cases.

For that vast majority of those who contract it, this is a relatively minor respiratory virus, just like flu, SARS, MERS, RSV, H1N1 and the multitude of other acronyms floating around. We didn't shut down the country and go into panic mode for any of these. Data are starting to indicate that most people infected experience little more than common cold symptoms, although again the amount of data to be analyzed is still small, but what we have is pointing more in this direction. Certain groups are more at risk than others from any repository virus and will have a higher incidence of complications. For RSV that is infacnts. Similarly, the elderly seem to be the at risk group for this virus.

This thing has been over hyped by the media as some kind of killer pandemic. We have, what, 100 or so cases in the US, or of millions of people? H1N1 KILLED 12,000 people in the US and no one was doomsday prepping for that. I think we need a little perspective on this.

They were a little bit. I remember the media hyping the crap out of that too. I remember being nervous about it myself as I was in college and it was a big deal when a student got it. But that was 10-12 years ago. Even from that time period social media is so much bigger now than then.