Coronavirus and DCL Megathread - Suspension of Departures for the fleet until early November. Booking only available from early December.

[FigmentSpark]

Genting Cruise Lines has released a statement announcing their enhanced measures, which appear to be the first cruise line to do so: http://gentingcruiselines.com/media...rds-for-the-fleet-and-the-cruise-industry.pdf

Will be interesting to see if other cruise lines follow suit and whether they are even stronger...

SW

That reminds me... right now, anyone can show up for boarding at any time, regardless of their PAT, but they'll just have to wait to get on the ship. I expect PATs will be used to limit people in the waiting areas, now. If you have an 11:15 PAT, no more getting in at 10:30.

 

[vegs1]

That reminds me... right now, anyone can show up for boarding at any time, regardless of their PAT, but they'll just have to wait to get on the ship. I expect PATs will be used to limit people in the waiting areas, now. If you have an 11:15 PAT, no more getting in at 10:30.

I would hope they do that.

I also didn’t see (but possibly missed it) if they are reducing their ships capacity at all.

 

[DisneyWishes14]

Genting Cruise Lines has released a statement announcing their enhanced measures, which appear to be the first cruise line to do so: http://gentingcruiselines.com/media...rds-for-the-fleet-and-the-cruise-industry.pdf

Will be interesting to see if other cruise lines follow suit and whether they are even stronger...

SW

Genting primarily sails in Asia. Their Crystal brand, while it has some presence in the US, offers mostly river and yacht cruising so doesn't fall within current CDC orders. While this is all well and good and very proactive, it really has no bearing on how ocean-going, large ships (like DCL's) will have to respond to any CDC orders moving forward. Any cruise line that wants to sail in and out of US ports any time soon will have to go above and beyond what Genting is doing in order to comply with CDC orders.

 

[MomOTwins]

I am a bit surprised that the measures are all focused on sanitation of surfaces/objects and nothing on social distancing.

 

[randumb0]

I am a bit surprised that the measures are all focused on sanitation of surfaces/objects and nothing on social distancing.

The entertainment venues will be at half capacity but yeah nothing specifically mentioned it

 

[_auroraborealis_]

Taking temperatures is theatre.

 

[GrrArrgh]

Taking temperatures will not catch everyone, but it will certainly help. Vietnam started temperature testing right away anyone wanting to go into stores or public buildings or transport. They had 300 cases and no deaths.

 

[6Castles]

We are booked on the Greek Cruise on the Magic scheduled June 13th from Rome. I can't believe that Disney canceled all the cruises up to June 13th, but not our cruise. If they canceled it now, I would consider the cruise credit for the same cruise next year, but there are only a few rooms (of the same type) open. If they wait and cancel this cruise in May and no rooms are available we won't be back next summer. Is anyone else booked on the Magic in Europe this summer? Their current plans would assume the boat would sail empty across the Atlantic to Europe and the very first cruise would be ours. That is crazy. I'd be surprised if they did an empty relocation cruise to Europe, but I guess they have to start sometime. I have been watching a few indicators. They are not currently selling any rooms for Europe this summer, until late July 25th. That is a strong indicator that they plan to cancel the cruises before July 25th. They also have an earnings call on May 5th. They will have to give investors some view into their plans for the next quarter (and beyond). The CDC also just extended the "no sail" order in the US until July 9th. Currently the Magic is in US waters, so it isn't clear if they would let it leave to Europe in June with >250 employees on board.

 

[o&smom]

Not that impressed with these measures. I believe Disney already surpasses most of these in regards to cleaning areas. We all had our temperatures taken before boarding the Wonder for the WBPC cruise. My husband and I never had a fever and we tested positive. Even if people were held to their PAT times there would be far too many people at the terminal to practice social distancing. To follow social distancing guidelines it would take days to board everyone 6 ft apart.

 

[randumb0]

@o&smom I think the external fresh air is important along with reduced entertainment capacity

 

[o&smom]

@o&smom I think the external fresh air is important along with reduced entertainment capacity

From what we have heard reported, aren’t they already using external fresh air? Even with reduced capacity in theaters, it would take forever for everyone to line up single-file and stay 6ft apart as you enter the theater and choose where to sit. Otherwise, you have social distancing issues upon entering through the doors.

 

[tidefan]

We are booked on the Greek Cruise on the Magic scheduled June 13th from Rome. I can't believe that Disney canceled all the cruises up to June 13th, but not our cruise. If they canceled it now, I would consider the cruise credit for the same cruise next year, but there are only a few rooms (of the same type) open. If they wait and cancel this cruise in May and no rooms are available we won't be back next summer. Is anyone else booked on the Magic in Europe this summer? Their current plans would assume the boat would sail empty across the Atlantic to Europe and the very first cruise would be ours. That is crazy. I'd be surprised if they did an empty relocation cruise to Europe, but I guess they have to start sometime. I have been watching a few indicators. They are not currently selling any rooms for Europe this summer, until late July 25th. That is a strong indicator that they plan to cancel the cruises before July 25th. They also have an earnings call on May 5th. They will have to give investors some view into their plans for the next quarter (and beyond). The CDC also just extended the "no sail" order in the US until July 9th. Currently the Magic is in US waters, so it isn't clear if they would let it leave to Europe in June with >250 employees on board.

We are on the July 1st Greek Isles. What they did to us was for every cruise after us, they moved the PIF date to “within 30 days”. That was 3 days after our PIF date...

 

[Starwind]

From what we have heard reported, aren’t they already using external fresh air? Even with reduced capacity in theaters, it would take forever for everyone to line up single-file and stay 6ft apart as you enter the theater and choose where to sit. Otherwise, you have social distancing issues upon entering through the doors.

I don't know what Disney uses, but on the Diamond Princess, IIRC for the staterooms anyway it was a 50/50 mix of recirculated and external fresh air [their normal operating procedure], until some time into their quarantine period (with # of infected passengers rising) the decision was made to change it to 100% external fresh air. It was noted at the time that the recirculated/fresh mix was the norm in the industry.

SW

 

[ladyofthetramp]

We are booked on the Greek Cruise on the Magic scheduled June 13th from Rome. I can't believe that Disney canceled all the cruises up to June 13th, but not our cruise. If they canceled it now, I would consider the cruise credit for the same cruise next year, but there are only a few rooms (of the same type) open. If they wait and cancel this cruise in May and no rooms are available we won't be back next summer. Is anyone else booked on the Magic in Europe this summer? Their current plans would assume the boat would sail empty across the Atlantic to Europe and the very first cruise would be ours. That is crazy. I'd be surprised if they did an empty relocation cruise to Europe, but I guess they have to start sometime. I have been watching a few indicators. They are not currently selling any rooms for Europe this summer, until late July 25th. That is a strong indicator that they plan to cancel the cruises before July 25th. They also have an earnings call on May 5th. They will have to give investors some view into their plans for the next quarter (and beyond). The CDC also just extended the "no sail" order in the US until July 9th. Currently the Magic is in US waters, so it isn't clear if they would let it leave to Europe in June with >250 employees on board.

We are on this cruise. They are doing cancellations in waves. We will not be sailing. I booked a room next year weeks ago as I knew once these rolling refunds and credits started, we would never be able to get a room for next year. It remains to be seen whether we get to go or not. I am hopeful, but not excited.

 

[randumb0]

We are booked on the Greek Cruise on the Magic scheduled June 13th from Rome. I can't believe that Disney canceled all the cruises up to June 13th, but not our cruise. If they canceled it now, I would consider the cruise credit for the same cruise next year, but there are only a few rooms (of the same type) open.

How do you know how many rooms are open?

 

[tinkerone]

You will not see social distancing on board a ship like you do on land, it would not be possible. Imagine how long it would take for the buffet lunch if everyone had to stand six feet apart? Imagine how long it would take to get an elevator if you had to wait for an empty one? Imagine how many shows they would have to put on just so everyone could see it if the could only use every third seat? And the pools? How do you keep those tiny things going if you need to stay six feet apart? The dining rooms? Tables are already in your lap just to get two seatings in, You can reach out and touch your neighbour, but they can't make a new dining room from nothing. Do they make the halls go one way so you don't have to squeeze past another family, don't see that working.
I know things will be different but it will not be the social distancing that we are seeing today IMO. You may find someone will be serving at the buffet. They may limit the number of people in the pool at one time, but how they do that one I couldn't even begin to think. There will be changes but nothing as extreme as what it is today. It will be interesting.

 

[randumb0]

@tinkerone Your questions are the reasons why I feel there is a chance that cruises may be cancelled for the rest of the year

 

[harriet2]

We are booked on the Greek Cruise on the Magic scheduled June 13th from Rome. I can't believe that Disney canceled all the cruises up to June 13th, but not our cruise. If they canceled it now, I would consider the cruise credit for the same cruise next year, but there are only a few rooms (of the same type) open. If they wait and cancel this cruise in May and no rooms are available we won't be back next summer. Is anyone else booked on the Magic in Europe this summer? Their current plans would assume the boat would sail empty across the Atlantic to Europe and the very first cruise would be ours. That is crazy. I'd be surprised if they did an empty relocation cruise to Europe, but I guess they have to start sometime. I have been watching a few indicators. They are not currently selling any rooms for Europe this summer, until late July 25th. That is a strong indicator that they plan to cancel the cruises before July 25th. They also have an earnings call on May 5th. They will have to give investors some view into their plans for the next quarter (and beyond). The CDC also just extended the "no sail" order in the US until July 9th. Currently the Magic is in US waters, so it isn't clear if they would let it leave to Europe in June with >250 employees on board.

July 25th is the first cruise out of Dover. So the cruises you can't book at the moment are all the Med cruises, which makes complete sense. But I feel like the later ones will be canceled too (we're book on the Norwegian cruise)

 

[Garyjames220]

July 25th is the first cruise out of Dover. So the cruises you can't book at the moment are all the Med cruises, which makes complete sense. But I feel like the later ones will be canceled too (we're book on the Norwegian cruise)

So why don't disney tell everyone there cancelled upto 25th July then so they can plan accordingly

 

[Chemist]

So why don't disney tell everyone there cancelled upto 25th July then so they can plan accordingly

they are spacing the cancellations. Not sure why.

they did it for Alaska. Canada has closed the port but Disney didn’t cancel May June cruises for another 2 weeks.