Convincing a Worlder

[emjo1]

I am trying to convince my dad to go to Disneyland with my mom and me. I have never been, but my mom really wants to go with him and me. I need no convincing as I am a huge Disney geek , but he believes that the World is better because it is bigger, and closer to where we live . What arguments can I use to get him to go there? Thanks!

 

[damo]

I am trying to convince my dad to go to Disneyland with my mom and me. I have never been, but my mom really wants to go with him and me. I need no convincing as I am a huge Disney geek , but he believes that the World is better because it is bigger, and closer to where we live . What arguments can I use to get him to go there? Thanks!

No buses!!! A lot less waiting and a lot less walking.

 

[abbie13_15]

LOCATION! You stay right there and walk across the street to both parks. WEATHER! No hot hot hot days like in FL.

 

[KCmike]

I am trying to convince my dad to go to Disneyland with my mom and me. I have never been, but my mom really wants to go with him and me. I need no convincing as I am a huge Disney geek , but he believes that the World is better because it is bigger, and closer to where we live . What arguments can I use to get him to go there? Thanks!

There is no substitute. This is where Walt lived, breathed, and made his vision come true.

The nostalgia is so think in the air its amazing.
The weather is picture perfect.
Parades, fireworks, and stage shows are just a step above WDW's stuff.
Most rides are much better in my opinion too.
2 parks, 1 downtown disney, no long hikes, no bus transportation. Imagine TRUE park hopping.
So much to see and do in SoCal.

Tell him that this WDW vet use to think that the "world" was the end all be all to vacations. It's not. I'm now a die hard "lander".

You must also visit San Diego. Go and stay at the Hotel Del Coronado. Think Grand Floridian 100 years before and its on the ocean!

 

[arthur06]

We are big "worlders" too. But as KCMike said, there is just something magical and charming about Disneyland.

We love spending a week at the parks in Florida (we get AP's every other year). But we also love doing things outside the parks too. DLR for 3/4 days and 3/4 days around SD or LA are really fun too.

We are staying at Grand Californian this trip. Private entrance into DCA, no cars, buses, monorails for the 4 days we are there.

I read that the DLR is a bit over 600 acres, where WDW is 47,000 acres.

2 parks, DTD, 3 hotels and so much magic packed in. My wife and kids have never been to DLR, but I know they will love it when we go. The location and transportation (or no need for it) are hard to beat!

 

[HydroGuy]

I am trying to convince my dad to go to Disneyland with my mom and me. I have never been, but my mom really wants to go with him and me. I need no convincing as I am a huge Disney geek , but he believes that the World is better because it is bigger, and closer to where we live . What arguments can I use to get him to go there? Thanks!

An excerpt from "A DLR Guide for WDW Vets" www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1162599

22. Areas Where DLR Exceeds WDW

Let me come out and say it right upfront - WDW has many things about it better than DLR. However, not everything about WDW is better than DLR and there are several areas where DLR exceeds WDW. That is what makes each resort special. Here is my list of areas where DLR exceeds WDW:

1. Weather - IMO the weather at DLR is better than WDW on average, and especially in the summer. Less rain and less humidity. See "Comparison of Weather For WDW and DLR" www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=1711098

2. Ride concentration - One would think that WDW would have twice as many rides as DLR since it has twice as many parks. Nope. DLR's two parks have more rides than WDW's four parks put together. DLR has lots more rides packed into those little parks!

3. Entertainment - as of today DLR's top four shows are better than their counterparts at WDW. That would be World of Color, the Remember Dreams Come True fireworks/laser/special effects show (shown seasonally), Fantasmic and the Aladdin stage show

4. Accessibility - everything can be reached on foot and park hopping takes about 1 minute. The walking distance hotels makes for a different experience.

5. Longer park hours - along with #4 above makes it easier to spend more time in the parks.

6. Much less need for planning - for those accustomed to choosing parks and ADR's 6 months in advance you can forget about that. You can't make dining reservations until 2 months in advance and even then they are in much less demand than WDW. Even if you wait until a week before your trip many dining reservations are still available. And since it is so easy to parkhop there is no need to commit to parks on given days. Finally, if you stay at a walking distance hotel there is no need to plan for transportation.

7. Seasonal makeovers - Because DLR caters less to out-of-town vacationers they are more free to change their rides. So every year three rides get seasonal makeovers: From September-January Haunted Mansion is converted into "Haunted Mansion Holiday". From November-January It's A Small World is converted into "It's A Small World Holiday" and from September-October Space Mountain is converted into Space Mountain Ghost Galaxy. This keeps the parks more dynamic and interesting. This does require taking down the rides to install and remove the makeover elements.

8. Extended trip touring outside DLR - as discussed in the next section, there is a lot to do in California if you stay longer than DLR - natural, cultural, historical, entertainment, sports, etc. More of a variety and more interesting things than Florida. Fabulous National Parks such as Yosemite and Sequoia, within reach of the Grand Canyon in adjacent Arizona, accessible to Las Vegas, San Francisco, Lake Tahoe, Wine Country north of the Bay Area, Monterey, Big Sur coastline, and Death Valley. Then there is Hollywood and the entertainment industry, aviation history, a real Universal Studios that is not just a theme park, Spanish mission history, mountains and skiing, and whitewater rafting. The list goes on and on and on. Florida is not without opportunities outside WDW but the list is much shorter.

 

[PinkBudgie]

You should go listen to this week's WDW podcast! I've only listened to a few minutes of it but Pete starts off by saying he wants to convince people on the east coast to visit DLR. He even said most people think WDW is better just because it's bigger. They will be discussing their recent trip to DLR. Sounds like the perfect podcast for you and your dad!

http://www.wdwinfo.com/disney-podcast/

It is the show for May 25th.

 

[starry_solo]

Just came back from a trip to WDW (2 weeks). DLR is much better.

 

[Jacie]

Indiana Jones... nuff said!

Actually, I agree with that list up there 100%

 

[Argento]

Forget that, your Dad is right! WDW is light years beyond. Even Walt himself was disappointed with the limits he had to work at Disneyland which is why WDW came into existence in the first place. Disneyland was like the prototype for the real deal.

Nothing to see in Anaheim. Nothing to see at all.

 

[abbie13_15]

 

[OKW Lover]

We've been to WDW too many times to count. Probably over 100 trips there. We've only been to DL/CA three times now, but are going back for #4 shortly. There is a world of difference in the parks. In many things, WDW is better. In many other things DL is better.

Do you always go for Chinese food at the same restaurant or do you try others?
Do you always order the same thing at your favorite restaurant or do you try other dishes?
Do you always see the same movie at your local theater or do you try others?

Its the same idea. Different things to do/try. Different experiences.

 

[zeferjen]

Funny, a podcast on this exact topic was posted last week. Maybe you can play it for him?

 

[BuzzBiteyear]

I think it depends on what your intentions for the trip are. If you want to be engulfed by all things Disney, for myself and my family WDW is the place to go. Our trips there it seems to be all Disney all the time as we stay onsite, ride Magical Express, use Disney transportation (no need for a rental for us), etc.

Now, for myself, I do enjoy DLR moreso than WDW when it comes to just the experience of the parks themselves. I like that I can walk to the parks, even without staying at the imo, pricey DLR hotels. I like how close together attractions are. I I like that the 2 parks and DTD are all beside each other which makes for easy park hopping, or grabbing lunch or dinner somewhere at DTD without feeling like you are wasting precious park time, hoping the bus schedule works out just right for you like you'd have to have at WDW going from a park to DTD to eat (ie park to hotel to DTD to hotel to park).

The other thing I like about DLR is it doesn't have to be 100% Disney. Our family are baseball fans, so this trip we'll have 3-day park hoppers, but also get to see the Reds play at Dodger Stadium and PETCO, as well as taking in an Angels game. We'll also visit the San Diego Zoo for a day. Plus we are planning to spend two days at Legoland, which our 8 y/o is looking most forward to on this trip.

That all said, I agree with what was said above. Perhaps some of my feelings have to do with generally going to WDW so I look more forward to some of the DLR things. One thing having gone to both that I really enjoy is seeing how the "same" rides/attractions can be different, ie Pirates, Buzz, small world.

 

[nana50]

I have no desire to go to Florida, so I'm probably not the best person to convince you. The idea of having to stay a week is too expensive, the idea of all that walking and bus riding tires me out just thinking about it. I love my DL and I run up there (I'm in San Diego) every couple of months. I love being able to pop back and forth between parks. I love that the hotels are on site. I could go on and on, but if he won't go, don't deprive yourself, go without him.

 

[blackjackdelta]

Forget that, your Dad is right! WDW is light years beyond. Even Walt himself was disappointed with the limits he had to work at Disneyland which is why WDW came into existence in the first place. Disneyland was like the prototype for the real deal.

Nothing to see in Anaheim. Nothing to see at all.

I do not know where you got your facts but what you are saying is not quite right. They built the World to give better access to the people on the east coast and Europe..had an Uncle who worked for Walt(directly each day) for many years( he also worked with him during the initial concepts of WDW) and not once in any conversation that we had was what you are saying ever mentioned, at the same time I spent many hours with Walt and Lillian and never heard what you stated.

Jack

 

[SomeDude78]

Probably not much help here, because I've been to DLR countless times but have never been to WDW, so I'm kind of in the opposite boat as you Only thing I can think of is what others have stated, that DLR is the original, and for a lot of Disney geeks it's kind of a pilgrimage of sorts to see what Walt personally saw and conceived. Ok and So Cal weather does tend to be more comfortable than Florida weather during summer, but that's a poor argument because it can be hot in both places and then it's just a matter of "muggy heat" versus "dry heat" hehe.

Btw I'm sometimes in Ontario for work, and honestly it's not THAT much farther to go to DLR versus WDW. The difference is somewhere around 3 hours max depending what itinerary you take. It's just that to come out west you have a smaller range of routes to choose from, the main ones are through Toronto if you do Air Canada and Chicago if you do United or some other US airline. To head down to Florida there are all kinds of routes you can take so it's more flexible. But we're talking a few hours more to check something off the bucket list, that's about the best argument I can come up with Tell him you'll bug him forever if he doesn't pony up the 3 extra hours!

 

[Argento]

I do not know where you got your facts but what you are saying is not quite right. They built the World to give better access to the people on the east coast and Europe..had an Uncle who worked for Walt(directly each day) for many years( he also worked with him during the initial concepts of WDW) and not once in any conversation that we had was what you are saying ever mentioned, at the same time I spent many hours with Walt and Lillian and never heard what you stated.

Jack

i·ro·ny /ˈīrənē/

Noun: The expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.

 

[KCmike]

Forget that, your Dad is right! WDW is light years beyond. Even Walt himself was disappointed with the limits he had to work at Disneyland which is why WDW came into existence in the first place. Disneyland was like the prototype for the real deal.

Nothing to see in Anaheim. Nothing to see at all.

Hilarious!

Love your ticker!

 

[HydroGuy]

i·ro·ny /ˈīrənē/

Noun: The expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect.

Irony works better when it is clear that it is irony. Typically on a forum like this folks will expect an emoticon to give them enough of a hint. I did not see the emoticon and assumed there was a reasonable chance you were serious. I was 50/50.

Further, folks do say things on this forum like what you said and are serious. It is hard to tell them apart.