Contemporary Suites Permits

[tjkraz]

I hope that this is not off topic, but just for fun: What would you think the price per point would be for this dream dvc of ours? I figure add $3 a point (starting at $104) per year for about five years (approx. opening date of 2012) = $119. Then add a premium of $10 due to location, demand, and because they can and you get $129 a point. What do you think?

Well, there are really two elements to calculating true up-front cost: the price DVC is charging per point AND the number of points required per night.

For instance, let's say it costs 10pts per night to stay in a Studio room and points are priced at $150 each. For every night you want to spend in a studio over the next 50 years, you would have up-front costs of about $1500. On the other hand, if DVC decides that that same Studio should be 15 points per night, they could price the points at $100 each and still have the same revenues.

I don't think it would be fair to even make a guest on CRV point price since DVC could raise the points charts by 20% per night, charge a moderate price per-point, and still make the same amount of money as they would with an outrageous price and points charts similar to what we have now.

I think once we hear details on the AKV point charts it will be a good indicator of their line of thinking. There is a lot of talk that the dues at AKV will be much higher than other resorts because of the savannah. However, if DVC bumps-up the point charts, they are spreading the dues dollars over more points and suddenly they may not seem so out-of-line on a per-point basis when compared to the other resorts.

 

[spiceycat]

you are forgetting the building costs. so far DVC has gotten their building costs out before they have even finished the building.

this thing will be very, very expensive - 15 or 16 floors next door to the MK. now the bcv weren't expensive (okay their price has gone UP) but it wasn't a high rise.

 

[boudreaux0]

I am thinking along the same lines as Barnum. Eagle Pines was anounced, even had artist renderings released and was canceled. But I hope it is true.

I am amazed how you guys can find these reports, permits, etc. and the government can't find bin laden. Maybe some of ya'll need to change careers.

 

[Mike]

I am amazed how you guys can find these reports, permits, etc. and the government can't find bin laden. Maybe some of ya'll need to change careers.

LOL - If he ever files a permit with the letters D-V-C in it, or if he ever becomes a commercial renter, he's a dead man

 

[Muushka]

LOL - If he ever files a permit with the letters D-V-C in it, or if he ever becomes a commercial renter, he's a dead man

 

[Barnum01]

LOL - If he ever files a permit with the letters D-V-C in it, or if he ever becomes a commercial renter, he's a dead man

My guess would be that they'd get the Persian resort out of mothballs if this were the case. It's still a monorail resort, so I'd at least take a look at it

Regards,
Dan

 

[Doctor P]

I think people are reading way, way too much into this. It is very, very common for a developer to try to secure permits for projects that are on the drawing board and many of the projects don't have a ghost's chance of being built. Even after pulling the plug on a project, a developer will often continue the permitting process (since fees have often already been paid to enter the process, or at least a non-refundable bond has been posted) just to have the permit ready to move fast if they ever change their mind. Bottom line: this permit may mean very little in terms of the big picture of seeing a DVC resort at the Contemporary. Probably can't build it without the permit, but the permit itself probably tells us very little.

 

[keishashadow]

sounds about right too me.

the only problem could be if AKV were more popular and Disney had to upscale the price (like at SSR) to kept the sales more in line with the building going up.

I really, really want a DVC resort at the COnt... but at the rate they are going mother will be dead first...

She's in good company then...

DH & I both figure we'll be too decrepit to enjoy CRV once it's offered @ this rate.

 

[keishashadow]

This is all very interesting! I can't wait to find out exactly what is going on with the north tower. When we were staying at the Contemporary in October, we were told by several CM's that DVC is going to happen there. We even talked with one of the Contemporary managers, and he said that they were gutting out the north tower and were going to sell off all the usable items, before the demolition begins. I just don't know! But I love a good mystery!

-Michelle

see mousesurplus.com lol

 

[nuts]

Well, I finally got a hold of my "friend". She just laughed at me (well, us on this board). I think she finds it amazing and funny how obssesive we all are over DVC. Anyway, she hasn't changed her stance that DVC at the Contemporary is just not in the cards. Ok, now I am confused cuz of all this paperwork. She wouldn't (couldn't?) comment.

For those of you who want this, I hope she is wrong (and believe me, I will let her know if she is wrong ).

 

[spiceycat]

see mousesurplus.com lol

I did - couldn't find anything on the Cont - can you be more specific?

 

[DC7800]

see mousesurplus.com lol

I couldn't find anything at mousesurplus either, with the exception of a single Contemporary comforter - and they had those for sale since last summer, months before the north wing closed for renovation.

If you know something we don't, do tell, because I'd love to have some items from those rooms.

 

[sorul82?]

very interesting...

 

[liznboys]

I just saw a news bit from this morning on another site that this is a go with completion in late 2009.

 

[disneymagic316]

Do you mean DVC is a go? Was there any more details?

 

[DVCconvert]

Do you mean DVC is a go? Was there any more details?

What is being reported (on another site) is that demo will begin immediately on the north tower. To be replaced with a 16 story crescent shaped tower with an estimated completion in 2009. This remains unofficial at present, also there is no official confirmation that DVC would occupy the new tower.

 

[mamaprincess]

What will we do with our lives once this speculation is ended one way or the other.

 

[spiceycat]

What will we do with our lives once this speculation is ended one way or the other.

start on the DVC resort at the Polyn of course.... or the one in Hawaii.....

 

[liznboys]

Do you mean DVC is a go? Was there any more details?

I'll send you a pm.

 

[Mama2Matthew]

I still believe that DVC is coming to the Contemporary sooner rather than later. We were at WDW last week. The tennis courts are gone. The water management permits show the tower occupying some of the area where the tennis courts were. Also, there were also a few sections in the parking lot where they had dug deep holes. I couldn't see how deep, but it looked to be at least 6 or 8 feet. They were square sections, about 8 x 8. I'm thinking they were for some demolition prep work.