Conservative Thread: U.S. Steele - Back In Business

[Humphrey Bear]

Isn't it part of Obama's plan to pay for everyone to go to college? I thought it was.

I was able to watch Glenn today. I thought his head was literally going to explode. He's trying so hard to talk sense into people but unfortunately the only people who are listening agree with him already.

I also listened to a snipit of Rush today. He played something from the Chicago board of trade that happened this morning. The guy that was talking called for a Tea Party in Lake Michigan. Not sure what we could throw in there to get our point across... maybe all the politician from IL.

Here is the video from the Chicago Board of Trade guy. It is great!

http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=1039849853



Did you see this article that Rush read about the high school students that were critical of Obama? It has been changed on the newspaper's website. It now has the same title, but has been completely changed to praise Obama. Kind of weird, I wonder how that happened.

I had saved a copy of the origianl article though:

Hayley Ringle, Tribune

February 18, 2009 - 2:59PM



A Dobson High School Advanced Placement government class with strong opinions about Barack Obama watched the president's speech Wednesday on a small, grainy TV in the corner of their classroom.


Some of the students attentively watched the speech, giving questioning looks and comments, shaking their heads and laughing at some of Obama's words. Other students listened, occasionally glancing up to watch, while texting on their cell phones, reading a book or finishing school work.

The gymnasium's events were shown simultaneously in rooms throughout the Mesa school, and teachers were given discretion on whether to show the speech, the students said.

The students in the class were hopeful things will work out but questioned whether Obama's plan would actually work to dig the country out of its economic woes. They also expected a longer speech.

Senior Syna Daudfar took some notes during the speech and was among the most vocally opposed to Obama's words.

At one point, when he talked about the costs of his stimulus plan, senior Maaike Albach and Daudfar looked at each other and said, "uh-oh."

"Overall I think it's a good idea, but he's not addressing the issues of the economic crisis," said Daudfar, a John McCain supporter who added he leans more toward being a moderate conservative. "The spending bill he just passed is just progressing the Democratic agenda rather than addressing the economic issues in the country."Daudfar thinks Obama's plan is backward and deals with the "less important stuff" first. "Bailing out businesses" and "providing better regulatory systems for giving out money to businesses" should have been first, he said.

"If businesses can't afford to hire people, then people won't be able to work and pay off their mortgages," he said. "It's kind of like putting money into a funnel."
Albach, who is also a Republican, said Obama's plan sounds good but questioned how Obama can want to rely on "people's responsibility" when that is "what got us in this economic crisis in the first place."
"This puts us more into debt," said Albach, 18. "It's a horrible situation we're in."Senior Brandon Miller wore a shirt with the words, "Hitler gave great speeches, too" above a picture of Obama.

Miller said he had been an Obama supporter "because of his speeches," but after debating the issues in this class and looking more into Obama's policies, his vote was swayed toward McCain.
He showed a video on his camera he had just taken of the president's minutelong motorcade and talked about what a "great experience" it was to watch it. Miller had also spent a couple of hours in front of the school, hanging out and watching the protesters.

"Even though I don't support him, I think it's cool he's here," said Miller, 18. "I just don't believe all the things he's telling us. His goal is just too big and broad."

Miller wanted to hear more about the costs and guidelines the stimulus bill entails.

Senior Katelyn Meyer, who also leans more toward being a Republican, said Obama's plan sounds good, "but it's easier said than done."

"I like the refinancing part, and I like the part about mortgages, but I'm afraid we're going to put the money in but won't see any effect," said Meyer, 18, who still thought it was "cool" to say the president was at her school, even though she didn't get to see him live.

The students also questioned why Obama chose their school for his speech since he wasn't talking about education and wondered how much money the district spent on beautifying the campus while district positions and services are being cut.

District officials noted this week that the landscaping project completed over the weekend at Dobson was already in the works and was just expedited by the president's visit. Funding came from voter-approved bonds.

New sod was laid in front of the school Tuesday, and Daudfar said, "The joke at the school is they're going to take it away when he (Obama) leaves."AP government teacher Jeff Sherrer said his students "feel very strongly about the issues, maybe more than the general population." He thought at least one of his students was outside protesting, and he had planned to take his students outside as a class project to show them what was going on but didn't get the chance.

"These kinds of kids really get into it," Sherrer said. "During the election we had lots of debates on the issues."

There are some teachers and some kids still out there who have not been totally brain washed.......

 

["Got Disney"]

And where is this money supposed to come from? I suppose one of two ways:
It's taken from those who already have their degrees or they'll take it back from me after I become an RN by only letting me have a take-home pay of $10,000 a year.

Well we made $255,000 this past year and so I guess it willl be coming from me also they(as in the GOV) will be making more money

By the way....got a phone call from our Tax guy a little over an hr ago...after all of our right offs we will be paying

$56,848 to IRS and 12,501 to the State... total = $69,349

DH says this year he will work to make less because with Obama we may walk away with only 50 bucks. Sad thing when you have to feel like to reach the stars in no longer worth it.

 

[Tink & Goofy]

Here is the video from the Chicago Board of Trade guy. It is great!

http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=1039849853



Did you see this article that Rush read about the high school students that were critical of Obama? It has been changed on the newspaper's website. It now has the same title, but has been completely changed to praise Obama. Kind of weird, I wonder how that happened.

I had saved a copy of the origianl article though:

And the reason these kids are leaning Republican? It's an advanced placement school.

Don't worry, GotDis. I won't take any money from you...I refuse.

 

[loco4dis]

All day long I've been hearing the Beatles in my head:

You say you want a revolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
You tell me that it's evolution
Well, you know
We all want to change the world
But when you talk about destruction
Don't you know that you can count me out
Don't you know it's gonna be all right
all right, all right

You say you got a real solution
Well, you know
We'd all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well, you know
We're doing what we can
But when you want money
for people with minds that hate
All I can tell is brother you have to wait
Don't you know it's gonna be all right
all right, all right
Ah

ah, ah, ah, ah, ah...

You say you'll change the constitution
Well, you know
We all want to change your head
You tell me it's the institution
Well, you know
You better free you mind instead
But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow
Don't you know it's gonna be all right
all right, all right
all right, all right, all right
all right, all right, all right

Who would have ever thought that THOSE words would fit so much with THIS president. Ironic, no?

 

[MeghansMommy]

Here is the video from the Chicago Board of Trade guy. It is great!

http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=1039849853



Did you see this article that Rush read about the high school students that were critical of Obama? It has been changed on the newspaper's website. It now has the same title, but has been completely changed to praise Obama. Kind of weird, I wonder how that happened.

I had saved a copy of the origianl article though:

DO you have a link to the revised article?

 

[Humphrey Bear]

DO you have a link to the revised article?

Here is the article and the link. It is the link to the origianl story. Still has the same title but it is completely different.

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/135656

Dobson students question Obama's plan
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Hayley Ringle, Tribune

February 18, 2009 - 2:59PM


Matt Gehrman looked — and sounded — like a proud papa after President Barack Obama’s speech at Mesa Dobson High School Wednesday morning.

When asked about the students’ response to the president’s visit, the principal paused, the grin on his face growing.


“My kids are awesome,” he shouted, and pumped his fist. “From the kids in the press to the kids on stage singing to volunteers, every step of the way the kids represented us the way I want people to view teenagers.”

Gehrman was with a small group of school officials — including Mesa Unified School District Superintendent Debra Duvall — who got to meet with the president before his speech. For being an “all-around good guy,” Gehrman brought with him 17-year-old Casey Benford, a member of Dobson’s varsity swimming, baseball and basketball teams, to meet Obama.

“It was an amazing experience,” the high school senior said afterward. “I can’t tell Mr. Gehrman thank you enough for letting me accompany him.”

The teenager said that after introductions, he and Obama talked about school sports, with Obama offering to “find a ball and play a game of H-o-r-s-e.”

“It’s nice to know such an important figure in our lives can joke around with a 17-year-old from Mesa, Arizona,” Benford said. “I was in awe. It’s so weird seeing him in real life, shaking his hand.”

The buzz was still going Thursday, Benford said.

“I know in my government class that’s all we talked about today. We talked about what we thought about his speech in general, his visit,” Benford said. In fact, the students talked about the visit in most of his classes, Benford said. “It’s still a huge buzz.”

Benford didn’t tell many people about getting the chance to meet the president before Wednesday, he said. But several on Thursday came up to talk to him about it when lessons were done in classes.

Soon, he may have a picture to share as well.

Gehrman said Obama suggested a group photo, shot by a White House photographer before the speech.

“It was interesting. We met him outside the boys’ locker rooms, of all places on our beautiful campus we could have been,” Gehrman said. “Then there were all the processes and all the rules. It’s very protective. Then he comes around and he’s so warm and gracious and wanted to take the time to talk to us.”

“We spent a boatload of time talking about basketball” with Benford, Gehrman said after Wednesday’s event.

Obama is known to relax with a game of hoops with friends.

Benford said even his girlfriend pointed out that the experience is something he’ll one day be able to share with his own kids.

“Some of my friends were giving me a hard time, ‘why you?’ But I guess I expected it. A lot of it is ‘Casey you’re so lucky,’” Benford said. “I’m just really grateful for it. I guess I didn’t think about it. ... Now I get to have a story like that for the rest of my life.”

High school senior Katelyn Wiley, 17, was also in awe. She got a call Tuesday night from the principal that she would be able to join the press corps at the event. She is student manager of the school’s newspaper, The Mustang Roundup.

Standing up against the metal gates about 30 feet from Obama, Wiley snapped photos of the crowd, the president during his speech, and folks reaching out to shake Obama’s hand afterward. She even got to interview Gov. Jan Brewer before Obama spoke.

“I asked her what she was expecting to hear, but I don’t know what she said. I was too nervous,” Wiley said. “It was such a whirlwind. It went by way too fast. I just took pictures and stood in awe of being in such close proximity to essentially the most powerful man in the world.”

Dobson student Najja Porter, 17, was one of those students who rushed up to shake Obama’s hand.

“I’m really excited. I thought it was really fun,” he said.

While some students waited in line for tickets to the event, others received tickets unexpectedly.

Hannah Minard, 17, a senior, said she received a phone call Tuesday afternoon that her marine biology class of 16 students got randomly selected for tickets.

“It was so amazing to see the president,” Minard said, after the event.

Isaac Martin, 10, missed classes Wednesday morning at St. John Bosco, a private Catholic school in Ahwatukee Foothills, but said it was worth it. At the speech with his dad, Isaac also got to shake the president’s hand.

“It was really cool. I shook his hand. It was really awesome,” Isaac said.

His dad, David Martin, said it was a “good civics lesson” for his son.

 

[MeghansMommy]

Here is the article and the link. It is the link to the origianl story. Still has the same title but it is completely different.

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/135656

Dobson students question Obama's plan
Comments | Recommend
Hayley Ringle, Tribune

February 18, 2009 - 2:59PM


Matt Gehrman looked — and sounded — like a proud papa after President Barack Obama’s speech at Mesa Dobson High School Wednesday morning.

When asked about the students’ response to the president’s visit, the principal paused, the grin on his face growing.


“My kids are awesome,” he shouted, and pumped his fist. “From the kids in the press to the kids on stage singing to volunteers, every step of the way the kids represented us the way I want people to view teenagers.”

Gehrman was with a small group of school officials — including Mesa Unified School District Superintendent Debra Duvall — who got to meet with the president before his speech. For being an “all-around good guy,” Gehrman brought with him 17-year-old Casey Benford, a member of Dobson’s varsity swimming, baseball and basketball teams, to meet Obama.

“It was an amazing experience,” the high school senior said afterward. “I can’t tell Mr. Gehrman thank you enough for letting me accompany him.”

The teenager said that after introductions, he and Obama talked about school sports, with Obama offering to “find a ball and play a game of H-o-r-s-e.”

“It’s nice to know such an important figure in our lives can joke around with a 17-year-old from Mesa, Arizona,” Benford said. “I was in awe. It’s so weird seeing him in real life, shaking his hand.”

The buzz was still going Thursday, Benford said.

“I know in my government class that’s all we talked about today. We talked about what we thought about his speech in general, his visit,” Benford said. In fact, the students talked about the visit in most of his classes, Benford said. “It’s still a huge buzz.”

Benford didn’t tell many people about getting the chance to meet the president before Wednesday, he said. But several on Thursday came up to talk to him about it when lessons were done in classes.

Soon, he may have a picture to share as well.

Gehrman said Obama suggested a group photo, shot by a White House photographer before the speech.

“It was interesting. We met him outside the boys’ locker rooms, of all places on our beautiful campus we could have been,” Gehrman said. “Then there were all the processes and all the rules. It’s very protective. Then he comes around and he’s so warm and gracious and wanted to take the time to talk to us.”

“We spent a boatload of time talking about basketball” with Benford, Gehrman said after Wednesday’s event.

Obama is known to relax with a game of hoops with friends.

Benford said even his girlfriend pointed out that the experience is something he’ll one day be able to share with his own kids.

“Some of my friends were giving me a hard time, ‘why you?’ But I guess I expected it. A lot of it is ‘Casey you’re so lucky,’” Benford said. “I’m just really grateful for it. I guess I didn’t think about it. ... Now I get to have a story like that for the rest of my life.”

High school senior Katelyn Wiley, 17, was also in awe. She got a call Tuesday night from the principal that she would be able to join the press corps at the event. She is student manager of the school’s newspaper, The Mustang Roundup.

Standing up against the metal gates about 30 feet from Obama, Wiley snapped photos of the crowd, the president during his speech, and folks reaching out to shake Obama’s hand afterward. She even got to interview Gov. Jan Brewer before Obama spoke.

“I asked her what she was expecting to hear, but I don’t know what she said. I was too nervous,” Wiley said. “It was such a whirlwind. It went by way too fast. I just took pictures and stood in awe of being in such close proximity to essentially the most powerful man in the world.”

Dobson student Najja Porter, 17, was one of those students who rushed up to shake Obama’s hand.

“I’m really excited. I thought it was really fun,” he said.

While some students waited in line for tickets to the event, others received tickets unexpectedly.

Hannah Minard, 17, a senior, said she received a phone call Tuesday afternoon that her marine biology class of 16 students got randomly selected for tickets.

“It was so amazing to see the president,” Minard said, after the event.

Isaac Martin, 10, missed classes Wednesday morning at St. John Bosco, a private Catholic school in Ahwatukee Foothills, but said it was worth it. At the speech with his dad, Isaac also got to shake the president’s hand.

“It was really cool. I shook his hand. It was really awesome,” Isaac said.

His dad, David Martin, said it was a “good civics lesson” for his son.

I noticed that they don't have the comments enabled on this article. Sad.

 

[Tink & Goofy]

I'm speechless.

 

[Humphrey Bear]

I noticed that they don't have the comments enabled on this article. Sad.

It is just a little creepy when the original article that I posted was critical of LTEC. Then later in the day everything in it changes, except the critical title.

 

["Got Disney"]

It is just a little creepy when the original article that I posted was critical of LTEC. Then later in the day everything in it changes, except the critical title.

Wow that is strange. To change an article after it had been sent out without remarks to state that it has been edited form the original and why...

Geesh!!!!

The boards are funny tonight......there are us that are in reality about the pain of all this stimulus stuff and talk about nationalizing the banks and others that have there head in the sand saying "Oh all will be well now you'll see... that Obama is doing what he is doing...

I wonder by some of the posters if they are just mad at others that have made a better life for themselves by working hard and smart....than they have. Some feel with Obama we will all live the same...make the same money and share everything....can anyone say Socialism.

The only ones that I can see wanting that are those that dont value earning a better way of life ...this way they have nothing to feel bad about for settling for what they have instead of what they could have had if they tried a little bit harder. Instead there logic is lets share the wealth...I will sit back and not work hard why you do and you can give me some of your money.... attitude. Good Grief Charlie Brown

 

[Tink & Goofy]

Did ya'll see this little gem?
And I believe Michelle Malkin confirmed that the police officer is the same race as LTEC hussein. So it's politically and racially motivated. Nice.

Oklahoma City police officer pulls man over for anti-Obama sign on vehicle

The police officers who stopped Oklahoma City motorist Chip Harrison and confiscated a sign from his car told him he has a right to his beliefs, but the Secret Service "could construe this as a threat against President Obama," according to the incident report released this morning.



Capt. Steve McCool of the Oklahoma City Police Department is seen in this NewsOK.com video frame grab. McCool says an officer who wrongly pulled a man over last week and confiscated an anti-Barack Obama sign from his vehicle misinterpreted the sign as threatening.

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Feb 19 OCPD Capt. Steve McCool addresses an incident in which an officer confiscated an anti-Obama sign from a man's vehicle.

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The sign, which read "Abort Obama Not the Unborn," was returned to Harrison later that day, the report said.

Police spokesman Steve McCool said this morning that the sign was taken in error, and Oklahoma City residents should not be worried that their First Amendment rights will be violated.

Harrison told the officers that in his opinion the words "Abort Obama" meant to impeach him. He told the officers he does not believe in abortion because he is a Christian.

Harrison was stopped on westbound Interstate 240 at 8:45 a.m. on Feb. 12, according to the police report.

Harrison said he later received a call from a person who said he was a lieutenant supervisor for the Internal Investigations Department and wanted to know his location and return his sign to him.

According to Harrison, the supervisor said the Secret Service had been contacted on the matter and had told them the sign was not a threat to the president.

Harrison was asked if he would like to file a complaint. He said he was not sure but would take the paperwork, just in case.

But his run-in with the law wasn't over yet.

''The Secret Service called and said they were at my house," Harrison said.

After talking to his attorney, Harrison went home where he met the Secret Service.

''When I was on my way there, the Secret Service called me and said they weren't going to ransack my house or anything ... they just wanted to (walk through the house) and make sure I wasn't a part of any hate groups."

Harrison said he invited the Secret Service agents into the house and they were "very cordial."

''We walked through the house and my wife and 2-year-old were in the house," Harrison said.

He said they interviewed him for about 30 minutes and then left, not finding any evidence Harrison was a threat to the president.

''I'm still in contact with a lawyer right now," Harrison said. "I don't know what I'm going to do."

Harrison said he feels his First Amendment rights were violated.

McCool said the officer who pulled over Harrison misinterpreted the sign.

''We had an officer that his interpretation of the sign was different than what was meant," McCool said. "You've got an officer who had a different thought on what the word 'abort' meant."

McCool said the sign basically meant Obama should be impeached and it was not a threat.

''(The officer) shouldn't have taken the sign," McCool said. "That was (Harrison's) First Amendment right to voice his concern."

McCool said although the sign should not have been confiscated, the situation was made right in the end.

''We always try to do the right thing and in the end we believe we did the right thing by returning the sign," McCool said.

 

[Humphrey Bear]

Did ya'll see this little gem?
And I believe Michelle Malkin confirmed that the police officer is the same race as LTEC hussein. So it's politically and racially motivated. Nice.

He dares to speak out against LTEC hussein and gets in trouble. I never heard of this happening when Bush was in office. I guess the old double standard is at work again.

 

[ravencotygrandma]

Near the bottom of page 2 not a good thing.

Sandy

 

[JPN4265]

The battle to take back America has started. Will you join the fight?


Would You Join Santelli's "Chicago Tea Party?"
Topics:Barack Obama | Housing | Economy (U.S.) | Economy (Global)
By: CNBC.com | 19 Feb 2009 | 04:08 PM ET
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CNBC's Rick Santelli leads the trader mortgage revolt. Would you want to join his "Chicago Tea Party?" Let us know:
CNBC Poll: Tell Us What You Think
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Vote to see results
CNBC Poll: Tell Us What You Think
Would you want to join Rick Santelli's "Chicago Tea Party?" * 121692 responses
Yes
92%
No
5.9%
Not Sure
1.7%
Not a Scientific Survey. Results may not total 100% due to rounding.

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* Don't know about the "Chicago Tea Party"? Watch the video here.
* Mr. Obama: Not All Real Estate Investors Are Irresponsible
* Housing Plan: $275 Billion to Help 9 Million Families
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What Readers are Saying:

The plan is a discrace! I pay my mortgage and bills on time. I live on a fixed income. I find it tough each month to make ends meet, but do. I did not go out and buy a home I could not afford. No one is helping ME! The Bleeding heart Democrats might as well give the country away. God Bless Rick Santelli!! —Steve

Why are the very people who never seem to do the right things, being rewarded with my tax dollars? This country has come to the point where there is no incentive to do what's right! ... The government should be rewarding the successful people, not making them out to be the villain and confiscating their tax dollars,to redistribute it to the people living above their means! — David

Here is the message Obama and Congress are sending: Work hard, pay your bills on time, and you will be penalized by having your hard-earned money reward those who wallow in irresponsibility and have a total disdain for those who play by the rules. — Kathy

The Obama housing plan is absolutely ridiculous. As a disabled person, I could not afford to buy a home after housing prices took off. To think that if I had bought above my means the government would have paid my mortgage makes me now feel like a jerk. — Rob

I paid off my mortgage this month. What a mistake, I should have just sat back and demanded that the government [taxpayers] help me. I'm being punished for being successful and doing what was once deemed right. — Don

It's not fair to the TAXPAYERS! We'll never get out of this mess! We need to get back to the ones, that started this mess. They need to ALL go to prison! — Betty
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[chicagoshannon]

The battle to take back America has started. Will you join the fight?


Would You Join Santelli's "Chicago Tea Party?"
Topics:Barack Obama | Housing | Economy (U.S.) | Economy (Global)
By: CNBC.com | 19 Feb 2009 | 04:08 PM ET
Text Size

CNBC's Rick Santelli leads the trader mortgage revolt. Would you want to join his "Chicago Tea Party?" Let us know:
CNBC Poll: Tell Us What You Think
Would you want to join Rick Santelli's "Chicago Tea Party?"
Yes
No
Not Sure

Vote to see results
CNBC Poll: Tell Us What You Think
Would you want to join Rick Santelli's "Chicago Tea Party?" * 121692 responses
Yes
92%
No
5.9%
Not Sure
1.7%
Not a Scientific Survey. Results may not total 100% due to rounding.

92% WOW that's a lot more then I expected. Of course Obama won't listen even if it walked up at hit him in the head!

THe stock market dropped even lower yesterday. How does he not see what he did as making things worse?!

 

[Humphrey Bear]

I also saw on TV last night that 76% of people, both Dem and Rep, think that we are relying on Government too much. It at least shows a glimmer of hope that people get it.

 

[Humphrey Bear]

92% WOW that's a lot more then I expected. Of course Obama won't listen even if it walked up at hit him in the head!

THe stock market dropped even lower yesterday. How does he not see what he did as making things worse?!

Becasue he sees himself as superior to all. He is a king:

 

[chicagoshannon]

Becasue he sees himself as superior to all. He is a king:

all hail king Obama

 

[onelilspark]

[QUOTE="Got Disney";30385730]Well we made $255,000 this past year and so I guess it willl be coming from me also they(as in the GOV) will be making more money

By the way....got a phone call from our Tax guy a little over an hr ago...after all of our right offs we will be paying

$56,848 to IRS and 12,501 to the State... total = $69,349

DH says this year he will work to make less because with Obama we may walk away with only 50 bucks. Sad thing when you have to feel like to reach the stars in no longer worth it.[/QUOTE]

I'm out of the house and my brother graduates from college next year...which means that my parents won't have dependents anymore. If our lovely Congress votes to raise taxes, my parents are seriously considering that one of them will retire because in the end, they'll take more home. What's wrong with that picture???

 

[debbieandroo]

Thanks MM and all for continued prayers.

She got her test results today from a nurse because the doctor didn't bother to show up and went instead to another of his offices. Umm, okay.

Anyway, the doctor (via the nurse) recommended chemo because she's "intermediate risk" according to this test. Said it'd help "a lot", blah blah blah. The testing company, however, and the actual results in their flipping hands say otherwise about the chemo risk and benefits. I guess it's too much to ask for them to go over that part of the report, and to be forced to find the information from the test report on the company's website as we did this afternoon. Can you tell I'm angry and very upset about all this? Basically as I thought all along, she's a guinea pig and I am ticked off.

The company breaks down all of the scores and such, and with the range she is in they say it's a complete guess as to whether to just have pills or chemo and pills. Breastcancer.org says the same thing. They don't know. Research is so new, it can "go either way." It could help cut down the risk by 4-5%, or it could seriously harm her by up to 5%. Because of the range she's in and the risk factors, if she gets chemo she could end up with serious, fatal heart problems and/or leukemia, or just less serious issues. The average benefit of chemo in her range is a negative (negative!) 3%. And yet the doctor says, yup, it's up to you, but go ahead and get it? This is because (here's the guinea pig part) they randomly assign patients with the medium risk result to the trial conditions of pills or chemo and pills. How the heck is a negative 3% benefit helping "a lot"?

She doesn't know what to do, but is leaning against it. They want her to decide by Saturday. Uh, yeah, that's plenty of time to get a second opinion. I hear a quacking noise, and it's not Donald Duck.

I don't know what to say either - all I can do is give you one of these

So we are selling Aerospace systems to Syria, giving money to Syrian charities and now Kerry is Obama's go between for Hamas.

Great.

Here is the video from the Chicago Board of Trade guy. It is great!

http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=1039849853



Did you see this article that Rush read about the high school students that were critical of Obama? It has been changed on the newspaper's website. It now has the same title, but has been completely changed to praise Obama. Kind of weird, I wonder how that happened.

I had saved a copy of the origianl article though:

I had just gotten home, was listening to Rush, and was just about to post this -- woo-hoo!

Here is the article and the link. It is the link to the origianl story. Still has the same title but it is completely different.

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/135656

Dobson students question Obama's plan
Comments | Recommend
Hayley Ringle, Tribune

February 18, 2009 - 2:59PM


Matt Gehrman looked — and sounded — like a proud papa after President Barack Obama’s speech at Mesa Dobson High School Wednesday morning.

When asked about the students’ response to the president’s visit, the principal paused, the grin on his face growing.


“My kids are awesome,” he shouted, and pumped his fist. “From the kids in the press to the kids on stage singing to volunteers, every step of the way the kids represented us the way I want people to view teenagers.”

Gehrman was with a small group of school officials — including Mesa Unified School District Superintendent Debra Duvall — who got to meet with the president before his speech. For being an “all-around good guy,” Gehrman brought with him 17-year-old Casey Benford, a member of Dobson’s varsity swimming, baseball and basketball teams, to meet Obama.

“It was an amazing experience,” the high school senior said afterward. “I can’t tell Mr. Gehrman thank you enough for letting me accompany him.”

The teenager said that after introductions, he and Obama talked about school sports, with Obama offering to “find a ball and play a game of H-o-r-s-e.”

“It’s nice to know such an important figure in our lives can joke around with a 17-year-old from Mesa, Arizona,” Benford said. “I was in awe. It’s so weird seeing him in real life, shaking his hand.”

The buzz was still going Thursday, Benford said.

“I know in my government class that’s all we talked about today. We talked about what we thought about his speech in general, his visit,” Benford said. In fact, the students talked about the visit in most of his classes, Benford said. “It’s still a huge buzz.”

Benford didn’t tell many people about getting the chance to meet the president before Wednesday, he said. But several on Thursday came up to talk to him about it when lessons were done in classes.

Soon, he may have a picture to share as well.

Gehrman said Obama suggested a group photo, shot by a White House photographer before the speech.

“It was interesting. We met him outside the boys’ locker rooms, of all places on our beautiful campus we could have been,” Gehrman said. “Then there were all the processes and all the rules. It’s very protective. Then he comes around and he’s so warm and gracious and wanted to take the time to talk to us.”

“We spent a boatload of time talking about basketball” with Benford, Gehrman said after Wednesday’s event.

Obama is known to relax with a game of hoops with friends.

Benford said even his girlfriend pointed out that the experience is something he’ll one day be able to share with his own kids.

“Some of my friends were giving me a hard time, ‘why you?’ But I guess I expected it. A lot of it is ‘Casey you’re so lucky,’” Benford said. “I’m just really grateful for it. I guess I didn’t think about it. ... Now I get to have a story like that for the rest of my life.”

High school senior Katelyn Wiley, 17, was also in awe. She got a call Tuesday night from the principal that she would be able to join the press corps at the event. She is student manager of the school’s newspaper, The Mustang Roundup.

Standing up against the metal gates about 30 feet from Obama, Wiley snapped photos of the crowd, the president during his speech, and folks reaching out to shake Obama’s hand afterward. She even got to interview Gov. Jan Brewer before Obama spoke.

“I asked her what she was expecting to hear, but I don’t know what she said. I was too nervous,” Wiley said. “It was such a whirlwind. It went by way too fast. I just took pictures and stood in awe of being in such close proximity to essentially the most powerful man in the world.”

Dobson student Najja Porter, 17, was one of those students who rushed up to shake Obama’s hand.

“I’m really excited. I thought it was really fun,” he said.

While some students waited in line for tickets to the event, others received tickets unexpectedly.

Hannah Minard, 17, a senior, said she received a phone call Tuesday afternoon that her marine biology class of 16 students got randomly selected for tickets.

“It was so amazing to see the president,” Minard said, after the event.

Isaac Martin, 10, missed classes Wednesday morning at St. John Bosco, a private Catholic school in Ahwatukee Foothills, but said it was worth it. At the speech with his dad, Isaac also got to shake the president’s hand.

“It was really cool. I shook his hand. It was really awesome,” Isaac said.

His dad, David Martin, said it was a “good civics lesson” for his son.

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