Confused with Touring Plans

Frozen2014

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How are crowds this week? My understanding is this week will most likely have an increase in crowds due to Annual Passholders block being lifted. But I'm confused since Touring Plans labelled yesterday (Monday Aug 22) as crowd level 6 and today (Tues Aug 23 as crowd level 5). The week prior (still blocked) was marked as 6 and 7s. Confused.
 
The reduction in crowds prediction is the fact that many (but not all) school districts have started classes, including the largest in the area, Los Angeles Unified.

It is also why Disney unlocked the pass. Without the pass changes, the crowd levels would be between a 3 and 4.
 
Touring Plans has a "What We Saw" level of 8 out of 10 for Monday Aug 22, so that day was busier than they predicted.
 
Since we are headed to DL next week I've been watching the wait times via the DL app and crowds for the past couple of days have been pretty low based on the wait times until mid to late afternoon when they seem to increase dramatically which would seem to jive with the times local schools are getting out and locals are getting off work and headed to the park.
 

Thanks...I haven't subscribed to Touring Plans (yet) but can see the daily crowd level via the Lines app....so don't see the actual crowd.


The reduction in crowds prediction is the fact that many (but not all) school districts have started classes, including the largest in the area, Los Angeles Unified.

It is also why Disney unlocked the pass. Without the pass changes, the crowd levels would be between a 3 and 4.

It's ironic since everyone says to avoid the first week when the block out dates are removed, but yet it't stll less from the blocked dates in their books.

But if 'what we saw' is closer to 8 as metnioend by destro909, then it is higher...or if it gets busier later.
 
Predictions are that, predictions. They are based on historical background, special events scheduled, and things like changes to holiday dates.

Disney does the best on its internal numbers, but they also spend the most time and money on it. They use additional info they get, including their own ticket sales, hotel and vacation bookings through Walt Disney Travel, but also through a semi-official group of most larger Hotels and other nearby Theme Parks and other large Tourist attractions. This information is shared on a daily basis and is used to help set advance Hotel pricing, and attraction staffing. The deal is they get the info in return for providing their own info, and as part of the agreement, that the information is not made public, though some folks have seen them, including people like the Unofficial Guide which run Touring Plans and other similar sites. Many times it is the predections made in advance, which does change and get more precise closer to the date.

And of course, you can never predict the weather, which has impacts, especially for the locals. A hot day, the Water Parks in SoCal sees an increase in business and the main Theme Parks see it go down. Also Southern Californians don't handle rain that well.

So as much as you can predict, something like an unscheduled school closing can increase attendance that day.
 
These days, Disney has done everything to spread the crowds out with AP/pass blockout dates as well as all those runDisney events. Based on last year, there wasn't much difference from the middle of Nov and the middle of June. One of the reasons I decided to buy the AP (in spite of all the things closed and disappearing) is so that I'm not as concerned about crowds as I used to be. Used to, big crowds ruined the trip. But now it's just part of the Disney experience since I can come back in a few months. It means I'm spending more than I want on hotels and travel, but it gives me a better feeling than being disappointed with massive crowds - which now exist everyday at DL.
 












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