Confused on dates now

sasywtch

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After reading the AP blackout dates and thread on it, I'm confused which dates we should go. We are scheduled to go Dec 9-12 of which the 11th is a blackout date. Our other option is Thanksgiving day, Friday and Saturday which all three days are blackout days. Which one would be better crowd wise? We have been so many times but this is the first Christmas theme time we've ever done.
 
What pass do you have? I have Deluxe and just checked. No Blackout for Deluxe the 11th of December.
 
Thanksgiving, day after, and the weekend will be busier..... regardless of AP blackouts! ;)
 
Thanksgiving, day after, and the weekend will be busier..... regardless of AP blackouts! ;)

Yes, your early december dates should be better crowd-wise. Thanksgiving weekend will be crazy (based on what I've heard - no personal experience with that).
 

Thanksgiving, day after, and the weekend will be busier..... regardless of AP blackouts! ;)
In years past this was always the case and was considered conventional wisdom by everyone including me. But apparently not anymore according to Al Lutz's reports from Nov 2009....

12/1/2009
Thanks a Million (APs)
AP numbers climb - parking doesn't, EO update, DCA update, More...

The Thanksgiving week illustrated perfectly how the huge numbers of Annual Passholders have turned half a century of theme park operations on its ear. From Sunday through Wednesday before Thanksgiving, none of the cheaper Annual Passes which make up the bulk of the 925,000 figure were blocked out. Those days were pegged for huge daily Disneyland attendance numbers of 60,000 and above, with AP's making up 35,000 or more of those daily visitors.

For instance, the day before Thanksgiving had an attendance estimate of 61,000 and by the end of the day around 64,000 had shown up. Of that huge number, nearly 40,000 were Annual Passholders, all arriving in their own personal cars and stretching the Resort infrastructure to the breaking point. The park itself was slammed with crowds in the days leading up to Thanksgiving; walkways ground to a standstill, trashcans overflowed, lines were long for everything from E Tickets to bathroom stalls, and the tempers of both the customers and the Cast Members flared at the slightest provocation.

But then Thanksgiving arrived, with all but the Premium Annual Passes were blocked out, and the daily attendance figures plummeted. Even the day after Thanksgiving, which has traditionally been one of the busiest days of the year for decades at Disneyland, barely saw 47,000 people through the gates. By Saturday of Thanksgiving weekend, the attendance at Disneyland had slumped to 38,000, ranking as one of the slowest Saturdays of the entire year.
 
Thanks for that Al Lutz quote, Trey.

To continue his story, we went the Sun-Thur after Thanksgiving. Walk-on to POTC. 20 minutes max for Indy and Matterhorn. HMH was a little busier, but you could still find times where it was 10-15 minutes. In short, it was a dream! Nearly walk-on conditions to most of the rides in the park.

-Bob
 
The second weekend in December was pretty much perfect for us in 2009, despite dire predictions to the contrary. Wednesday and Thursday were very much like GrandBob's statement, with perfect weather and (probably since those were the days after the Cast Member Parties when DL closes early), the park was open until 11 PM, with two showings of Fantasmic!

That said, we left Sunday about 1 PM, and I think Friday and Saturday would have been much busier if it hadn't been threatening rain on Friday and raining throughout almost all of Saturday. So there's no way to tell how the weekend WOULD have gone. Most schools were still in session so I don't think they would've been awful, but I think it was just the following weekend that crowds were insane.

I think the problem with the days before Thanksgiving was twofold. APs were not blocked out, and I believe many Southern California kids get the whole week off school. Those days before Thanksgiving were busy even back in 2005 because of the school breaks, I believe. With the AP blockout dates on Thanksgiving and following, many guests who wanted to visit the parks around that holiday could only visit BEFORE Thanksgiving, so more visitors were crammed into fewer days.

It appears that school holidays + dates right before a block of time is blocked out for AP-holders = HUGE crowds!

I do remember stories like GrandBob's for the week afterward; lots of DISers were saying that it sounded like an ideal time to go!
 
I don't have an AP. I was just getting a little concerned after reading hydroguys links about attendence with the SoC APs. I think we are going to stick with Dec 9-12. We love the rides but I'm going mostly for the Christmas decorations and the holiday type foods. Thank you all!
 





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