Concert photography

MICKEY88 said:
you should buy a vest, much easier than holding a bag on your shoulder while shooting, I bought 2 ,,a black and a khaki for around 35 dollars each....

I thought about it, but it won't offer any protection against Florida's sudden and often unpredictable rain storms. My gear bag does. Also getting through a jam packed club in a vest loaded with gear is just an invitation to get snagged on and smashed against everyone and thing, the padded bag gives a lot more protection.

What I'd really like to get is one of those Lo-Pro backpacks (I hope I have the right brand name), but they are soooo expensive...

Anne
 
ducklite said:
I thought about it, but it won't offer any protection against Florida's sudden and often unpredictable rain storms. My gear bag does. Also getting through a jam packed club in a vest loaded with gear is just an invitation to get snagged on and smashed against everyone and thing, the padded bag gives a lot more protection.

What I'd really like to get is one of those Lo-Pro backpacks (I hope I have the right brand name), but they are soooo expensive...

Anne
a rain poncho or jacket kept in one of the pockets, does offer rain protection.

a vest shouldn't get snagged on anything anymore than your clothes do, and unless superman himself is there I doubt bumping into people is going to damage anything, I keep camera in hand which leaves, lenses{rather solid}, batteries{ditto} and memory cards in protective case, in the vest,

photographers have been using vests for years in much harsher conditions than concerts, but to each his own..

I have a lowepro backpack, it stays in my car with my various chargers usb cords card readers etc...when I do a shoot the camera and lenses go from backpack to vest, as they did February in WDW
 
MICKEY88 said:
a rain poncho or jacket kept in one of the pockets, does offer rain protection.

a vest shouldn't get snagged on anything anymore than your clothes do, and unless superman himself is there I doubt bumping into people is going to damage anything, I keep camera in hand which leaves, lenses{rather solid}, batteries{ditto} and memory cards in protective case, in the vest,

photographers have been using vests for years in much harsher conditions than concerts, but to each his own..

I can't stand wearing poncho's. I don't mind getting soaked myself, but want to keep my gear dry. I always keep a couple clear plastic bags in my case to wrap the camera in while shooting in the rain.

It's not really "bumping into people"--it's squeezing past them like a mouse squeezing through a teensy hole, and dodging the crowd surfing idiots while I'm at it.

And I forgot the other hazard. All the crap being tossed over the barricade, including the flying bodies of 280 pound guys. SMASH! They fly into you, you go flying into the front of the stage or the barricade. During one show there was no barricade and the crowd swell ended up under me and launched me onto the low stage stage. I landed flat on my torso, camera in the air. Had I been wearing a vest my gear would have been landed on full force, and it or I or both would have been injured. (It also reminded me why I generally don't shoot shows in crappy little clubs. :rolleyes1 )

Anne
 
ducklite said:
I can't stand wearing poncho's. I don't mind getting soaked myself, but want to keep my gear dry. I always keep a couple clear plastic bags in my case to wrap the camera in while shooting in the rain.

It's not really "bumping into people"--it's squeezing past them like a mouse squeezing through a teensy hole, and dodging the crowd surfing idiots while I'm at it.

And I forgot the other hazard. All the crap being tossed over the barricade, including the flying bodies of 280 pound guys. SMASH! They fly into you, you go flying into the front of the stage or the barricade. During one show there was no barricade and the crowd swell ended up under me and launched me onto the low stage stage. I landed flat on my torso, camera in the air. Had I been wearing a vest my gear would have been landed on full force, and it or I or both would have been injured. (It also reminded me why I generally don't shoot shows in crappy little clubs. :rolleyes1 )

Anne

OK so instead of a poncho, carry a large plastic bag, and put the vest in that if it rains...

you said before you shoot with bag on shoulder, how would that not hit the floor if you were knocked down,

actually since the pockets are to the sides, your gear may have been fine,

squeezing past people is much esier wearing a vest than carrying a bag, I've done both, I can work through a crowd way faster and easier without a bag...


if you saw a 280 man flying thru the air, you weren't at a concer t, you were at a wrestling match and even those guys don't fy thru the air against their will
 

>I don't mind getting soaked myself, but want to keep my gear dry.

*That's* the spirit!!! ;)


boB
 
boBQuincy said:
>I don't mind getting soaked myself, but want to keep my gear dry.

*That's* the spirit!!! ;)


boB

sounds good in theory, but a soaked photographer usually leads to wet gear, unless you call it quits and head home for the day..
 
MICKEY88 said:
sounds good in theory, but a soaked photographer usually leads to wet gear, unless you call it quits and head home for the day..

I shoot until it's raining so hard that I can't keep the lens clear of rain drops, then it's time to pack it in. Of course during the walk to the car with the gear safely stowed I usually end up soaked. :)

Anne
 
Oh sorry, my misunderstanding of the situation. They didn't lose the barricade. Although, 20,000 people rushing a barricade generally would do it lol.

About a month ago my nephew called me to find out for him how to go about getting authorized to take pictures of bands performing live. I spoke with my husband about it, it's pretty involved as far as the credentials go. There usually is a seperate window or depending on the promoter/venue the photographers head to the backstage entrance where they would get the credentials. They are then brought to a room to sign various paperwork. He did say most of the time there is a room that they can leave their bags and stuff. Most of the time they are only allowed to shot the first three songs. After that the photographers are escorted out of the building.

So, my nephew isn't going to be doing that type of concert stuff anytime soon. The club route will probably be the way for him to start.
 
crazyme5kids said:
Oh sorry, my misunderstanding of the situation. They didn't lose the barricade. Although, 20,000 people rushing a barricade generally would do it lol.

Actually about four years ago the same promoter DID lose the barricade when the fans purposely tried to break it down during a show with sevendust and Godsmack as the headliners. When you've got 10,000 people hellbent on doing so, there's just not much you can do to stop them. It's one of the reasons that promoters have HUGE and very expensive GL policies and bonds in place.

About a month ago my nephew called me to find out for him how to go about getting authorized to take pictures of bands performing live. I spoke with my husband about it, it's pretty involved as far as the credentials go.

This is generally true. Some bands are very easy, some are nearly impossible. I also write for a print magazine, so for me it's been pretty easy, although some of the really large bands (Stones) only grant photopasses for daily's. Fortunately the type of act that I enjoy shooting and the venues I prefer working in are perfect fits for the publication I write for. :)

The publicists don't care about photographers, they are a dime a dozen. What they really want are "words", and my rule is no photopass, no review. When Papa Roach decided to leave me a ticket and no photopass, even though the photopass had been agreed on and I had that in writing, I gave the ticket to some girl and left. They got nothing. It's a two-way street. :thumbsup2

There usually is a seperate window or depending on the promoter/venue the photographers head to the backstage entrance where they would get the credentials. They are then brought to a room to sign various paperwork. He did say most of the time there is a room that they can leave their bags and stuff. Most of the time they are only allowed to shot the first three songs. After that the photographers are escorted out of the building.

Press credentials are generally at the "Will Call" window with guest list and Ticketmaster pickup's. The "paperwork" part depends on the act and the venue. At HoB venues you sign prior to receiving the credentials. Some publicists require you to sign and fax back releases before putting you on the list--and the size of the venue has nothing to do with that.

At many arenas you are required to leave your gear in a secure location if you want to watch the show after the first three songs--and you must have a ticket to do so. A few allow you to keep it with you, but it must be left in your bag. First two or three is industry standard, regardless of where you are shooting--club, theatre, arena, or stadium. Also you aren't allowed to use flash. I can count on one hand the times/bands I've been able to shoot the entire show--and then it's usually been a very new/baby band, or where I was the only photographer and had special permission from management because I was doing promo work at the bands request as opposed to for the publication I write for.

So, my nephew isn't going to be doing that type of concert stuff anytime soon. The club route will probably be the way for him to start.

Absolutely. Many publicists won't even take his calls until he's got a portfolio and is published, even if it's a college newspaper.

Anne
 
Hey Anne good morning! Thanks for all your info! I tried to type a very small condensed version of my husbands explanation, which was very long. He has worked in the industry for almost 30 years now, the last 23 as a production manager. He very rarely steps into a club to do a show anymore, only does so at the request of a bands manager, agent or production manager. At that point he is just "babysitting" the staff. The bands he works with are 99.9% of the time only the large acts, so what he was explaining about the press photographer passes based on that.

I think it's great that you and Kelly can shed some light on this type of photography.
 
Does he work as a production manager for the venue/promoter or artist. Wondering if I know him, which is quite possible. My background is actually in touring in a capacity other than media.

Anne
 
He works for a promoter,in many different venues, mainly on a international level now, but sometimes nationally. Once in a while he will represent the band, but that's usually as a favor to the bands management.

Where did you start out and what did you do?
 
I'm going to a show in Vegas and was wondering if anyone here can give me a quick tutorial on what to set my camera at for concerts- or if anyone here has a website that I can go to to read about the basic usage of the camera for me. I'm fairly new to all this, but want to become more familar with it so my pics can come out ok.
The last time I used it at the same venue, I got some great pics, but many were blurred. The good pics came when the entertainer was literally only 8 feet from me. How do I get good shots when they're further away? I have front row- side stage seats if that helps??

TIA for any help you can give me!

Karen
 
this is an article I wrote for my blog (which will be part of the lessons, one day)

Wednesday, May 31, 2006
taking concert pictures

Some people claim this is to be the holy grail of photography. I say it's not. Maybe I got off easy, maybe my in-depth background in music, music production and stage production helped. I don't know.

Settings:

- Use lenses with f/2.8 or larger ONLY. f/4 is not good enough (well, good for Jazz concert, but definitely not for Rock or Pop) . My current favourite is Canon 17-55 f/2.8 IS for wide shots and Canon 70-200 f/2.8L IS for medium to waist-up shots. I'm contemplating for a Canon 400 f/2.8L IS for close up shots but the cost is extremely prohibitive (currently about US$8,000 shipped)

- Set the camera to ISO 1600. Nothing lower than that.

- Use spot metering. Focus on the face, press Auto Exposure lock button, recompose, take the pic. Do all that in a split second. You're guaranteed to have great results.

Now, considering you own an S2 IS, the best way is to set it to ISO 400 and hope for the best.
 
Kelly- can you PLEASE tell me how to set my camera to what you suggest? I mean ....like STEP BY STEP! I am slow at learning this stuff, but usually if someone can tell me, then I do ok. I have a hard time understanding what the manuals say because of the words in between the how to's! I just need Step one- do this, step 2- do this etc. Then, once I set it there, do I use the flash?

I'm a simple creature! LOL!!!
 
I don't own that camera, but as far as I can remember, do the following:

turn the knob to P
turn power on
press FUNC button
scroll down to ISO
press right arrow
repeat pressing the right arrow to ISO 400

The manual can help you for sure. I'm just writing based on what I can remember.
 
Your best bet for an S2IS is to turn it to the P dial and change the ISO to 400. I don't have mine in front of me but I think you press the 'function' menu to get to where you can change the ISO.

Then cross your fingers and pray. Don't zoom much at all. The aperture shrinks as you zoom and you'll want it as wide as possible.

I'd consider putting in a burst mode and trying the 'night snapshot' mode under the SCN settings.

I think the S2IS is noisy (grainy) at 400 ISO so I'd look into downloading the free noiseware software Kelly always recommends because you'll likely need to clean up the photos a bit.

Concerts have wacky lighting and the don't allow flashes so they are hard to shoot.

This is one time that digital is good. Just keep shooting!
 
You guys are so great!

OK- I got the camera set at ISO 400- BTW- can you please tell me what ISO stands for?? I can't find my guide to the camera!! I think it's apcked with all our other stuff- we're in theprocess of moving- ugh!! I did , however , download the manual from the canon site, but haven't really had time to go through it yet.

So- is that all I need to do? No other adjustments anywhere? ANd what download for the noise are you talking about?

When I took pics at the show the last time, I simply had the camera on auto- and the ones that were close turned out great, unfortunately, the guy wasn't on our side of the stage very much!
 
There are so many different stories about what ISO stands for. What it stands for doesn't really matter (some claimed to be International Standards Organization). However, it refers to the light sensitivity of the sensor / film.

Please refer to my thread: Learn Photography - The Kelly Way, lesson 3
 


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