Communities with an HOA

[sam_gordon]

Could be I confess I don't know the specifics around that. I just know I would be annoyed with constant beeping. At least with all the construction going on in my neighborhood I know a home will be completed at some point..that the construction noises will stop at some point (and there are ordinances when noise can happen which def. do not include overnight hours) when the home is at a point where it's interior stuff and when it's complete. The OP has no idea how long the tow truck will be around.

It may not be a law, but it would be a liability issue. It doesn't take much to imagine someone backing up and hitting someone they didn't see. Then:
"Did you have a backup beeper installed?"
"Yes"
"Did it go off?"
"No"
"Why?"
"I bypassed it".

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

It may not be a law, but it would be a liability issue. It doesn't take much to imagine someone backing up and hitting someone they didn't see. Then:
"Did you have a backup beeper installed?"
"Yes"
"Did it go off?"
"No"
"Why?"
"I bypassed it".

Yeah I know that's why I said I get the annoyance to it because I was thinking the liklihood of it being able to be turned off was probably fairly low be it mechanically unable to turn it off or because of a rule (whose ever rule that would be) or general safety guideline

 

[luvsJack]

And we wonder why there are so many threads over the years about people not getting along with their neighbors. Good grief.

Rules are rules are rules. And rules can be broken. Most usually are in some cases.

Ever consider the man has to go to work and perhaps this is his only way right now? Maybe instead of sending complaining emails someone could just ask the man?

If the worst thing a neighbor does is park a truck he uses for work in his driveway, consider yourself lucky and move on with your day. It really isn’t effecting you even if he is breaking a rule.

 

[tvguy]

Could be I confess I don't know the specifics around that. I just know I would be annoyed with constant beeping. At least with all the construction going on in my neighborhood I know a home will be completed at some point..that the construction noises will stop at some point (and there are ordinances when noise can happen which def. do not include overnight hours) when the home is at a point where it's interior stuff and when it's complete. The OP has no idea how long the tow truck will be around.

Like I posted, I am out and about early since I have to be at work at 3 am. I live 2 blocks from 2 schools and the garbage trucks are all out at that time dumping dumpsters and backing up with their beepers. They don't want those garbage trucks moving around on campus when students are there for safety reason. But that time of night the noise travels a long ways.

 

[tvguy]

The other downside of HOAs, it can be expensive or impossible to fight them, even if they break their own bylaws or if they are out and out wrong. A former co-worker got dinged with a $1,000 fine for being late with his dues, even though he hadn't closed escrow yet by the due date. The fine was levied by the Property Management company, and the fine WENT to the property management company, not the HOA. He spoke to an attorney who told him "just write the check, it's cheaper that fighting them"

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Like I posted, I am out and about early since I have to be at work at 3 am. I live 2 blocks from 2 schools and the garbage trucks are all out at that time dumping dumpsters and backing up with their beepers. They don't want those garbage trucks moving around on campus when students are there for safety reason. But that time of night the noise travels a long ways.

That wouldn't happen here--we have noise ordinances.

At least for our City the trash should be out by 8am and they wouldn't be collecting any business or school's dumpster at 3am.

I know in my college I don't believe they would be doing that at 3am either and they def. didn't do that at the apartment complex (off campus) I lived at.

I think that's an excuse being used for safety. Somehow in all the residential neighborhoods here in the suburbs you don't hear one complaint from anyone nor have I ever heard a noise that the garbage dumpsters at the schools were being picked up late at night or the wee hours of the morning. That may be a preference to do it at that time OR time management in terms of resources.

 

[Hikergirl]

And we wonder why there are so many threads over the years about people not getting along with their neighbors. Good grief.

Rules are rules are rules. And rules can be broken. Most usually are in some cases.

Ever consider the man has to go to work and perhaps this is his only way right now? Maybe instead of sending complaining emails someone could just ask the man?

If the worst thing a neighbor does is park a truck he uses for work in his driveway, consider yourself lucky and move on with your day. It really isn’t effecting you even if he is breaking a rule.

Good grief is right. Rules can be broken, that doesn't mean they should.
And you are right about people not getting along with their neighbors. How could anyone get along with someone so cavalier about breaking agreed to rules because they don't suit them

The OP is the one in the right here, it's the truck driver that should have went to her. She said this has been going on for months, that means he had months to make other arrangements. He is in the wrong, the OP owes him nothing.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

The other downside of HOAs, it can be expensive or impossible to fight them, even if they break their own bylaws or if they are out and out wrong. A former co-worker got dinged with a $1,000 fine for being late with his dues, even though he hadn't closed escrow yet by the due date. The fine was levied by the Property Management company, and the fine WENT to the property management company, not the HOA. He spoke to an attorney who told him "just write the check, it's cheaper that fighting them"

Same could be said for the city's or county's or states.

Get damage on your vehicle from the roads, especially potholes? Some cities or states or counties won't pay even with their own laws say they are the responsible party OR they'll contend that because the road is on so and so it's really so and so who is responsible but that other party says no it's actually so and so who is responsible. Fight them on it? You're probably better off getting the local news involved in certain cities.

Some places are better than others some HOAs are better than others.

 

[kirstenb1]

We've lived in 2 homes, both with HOAs. The one in Virginia Beach was pretty strict. But land there is so expensive that houses are really close together, so I understood. We've lived in a rural subdivision for 22 yrs, 3-6 acre lots. This HOA is much less stringent. Basic stuff like mow your grass, no above ground propane tanks, no RVs, etc. But since many homes aren't even visible from the street, there are probably violations that no one even notices.

That horn thing would aggravate me too. I wouldn't worry too much about it being a work truck. OP, I'd try to talk to the guy. He's probably so used to the horn, he doesn't even hear it anymore.

 

[luvsJack]

That wouldn't happen here--we have noise ordinances.

At least for our City the trash should be out by 8am and they wouldn't be collecting any business or school's dumpster at 3am.

I know in my college I don't believe they would be doing that at 3am either and they def. didn't do that at the apartment complex (off campus) I lived at.

I think that's an excuse being used for safety. Somehow in all the residential neighborhoods here in the suburbs you don't hear one complaint from anyone nor have I ever heard a noise that the garbage dumpsters at the schools were being picked up late at night or the wee hours of the morning. That may be a preference to do it at that time OR time management in terms of resources.

The dumpsters on our college campus are emptied at some wee hour of the morning because they go to both nearby elementary schools at that time. It’s not an excuse or a time management. It’s really is for safety. The elementary schools requested it not the pick up company.

I only know this because when the time for their pick up, the company called us to give us a heads up about when they would be on campus and I was the one that happen to answer the phone.

One of the schools is very close to a residential area but the truck beeps a few times while the dumpster is in the air and a few times if they have to back up. It’s jot beeping the whole time it’s moving. If I had to guess, those residences get picked up when the school does too.

 

[luvsJack]

Good grief is right. Rules can be broken, that doesn't mean they should.
And you are right about people not getting along with their neighbors. How could anyone get along with someone so cavalier about breaking agreed to rules because they don't suit them

It’s a truck. The man is using it to work. Most people in this world have to have a job.

It may not be a matter of the rule just not suiting him. There could be extenuating circumstances. But hey that doesn’t matter right? It’s a RULE.

And how exactly is his horrid rule breaking hurting the op?

 

[DisLiss]

We had a neighbor who worked a night shift and took a motorcycle to work. Every night he'd be out there starting the incredibly loud engine and it took awhile. Woke me up every night. So I'd welcome some back-up beeps, myself, LOL!

So just bear in mind that if he winds up parking his truck 20 blocks away, he might opt to start riding a motorcycle from the house to get to his work truck every day!

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

The dumpsters on our college campus are emptied at some wee hour of the morning because they go to both nearby elementary schools at that time. It’s not an excuse or a time management. It’s really is for safety. The elementary schools requested it not the pick up company.

I only know this because when the time for their pick up, the company called us to give us a heads up about when they would be on campus and I was the one that happen to answer the phone.

One of the schools is very close to a residential area but the truck beeps a few times while the dumpster is in the air and a few times if they have to back up. It’s jot beeping the whole time it’s moving. If I had to guess, those residences get picked up when the school does too.

Doesn't seem to be an issue in our areas none what so ever. Nor my alma mater. And we're considered very safe around here. Guess they just utilize better safety procedures

I can see a school saying "don't pick up around this time when the students are coming to school" and the dumpster getting picked up at a time when that's not happening I cannot see picking up at 3am for the same reason.

 

[Hikergirl]

It’s a truck. The man is using it to work. Most people in this world have to have a job.

It may not be a matter of the rule just not suiting him. There could be extenuating circumstances. But hey that doesn’t matter right? It’s a RULE.

And how exactly is his horrid rule breaking hurting the op?

Maybe the OP moved into a neighborhood like that because she didn't want to live in a truck-stop or a commercial area. It's an eyesore and a nuisance.
Maybe seeing it and hearing it every day is horrid to the OP- who are you to say it isn't?

The man agreed to those rules, and he's being a selfish, entitled *** to his neighbors who agreed to them as well. Period.
What extenuating circumstances could possibly force him park it at his home?

 

[luvsJack]

Doesn't seem to be an issue in our areas none what so ever. Nor my alma mater. And we're considered very safe around here. Guess they just utilize better safety procedures

I can see a school saying "don't pick up around this time when the students are coming to school" and the dumpster getting picked up at a time when that's not happening I cannot see picking up at 3am for the same reason.

Well it may have been the best time they could all work it out or have something to do with where the dumpsters are in relation to students moving around campus.

An elementary school of any size has kids moving about all through the day with recesses and lunches plus drop off and pick up. And the truck has to pick up over a large area so it all has to work for both.

I don’t know on one campus but on the other the dumpster is outside the cafeteria, not far from the car line area. Students from two buildings go that way going to PE and to recess. And the other buildings go that way to lunch. They shouldn’t be close to the truck coming in but if an accident can be avoided it’s a good thing.

I seriously doubt it has anything to do with better utilization of safety procedures. Perhaps just the best safety procedure for those particular schools.

 

[luvsJack]

Maybe the OP moved into a neighborhood like that because she didn't want to live in a truck-stop or a commercial area. It's an eyesore and a nuisance.
Maybe seeing it and hearing it every day is horrid to the OP- who are you to say it isn't?

The man agreed to those rules, and he's being a selfish, entitled *** to his neighbors who agreed to them as well. Period.
What extenuating circumstances could possibly force him park it at his home?

Live in a truck stop? Seriously? A bit over dramatic there don’t ya think?

Extenuating circumstances like not having another way to work?

He is being selfish and entitled because he is going to work? Wow.

How is it a nuisance?

If seeing a truck every day is “ horrid”, then there are bigger issues here than a truck. Goodness.

And some work trucks are newer and better looking than personally owned vehicles. So again, over dramatic.

 

[tvguy]

That wouldn't happen here--we have noise ordinances.

At least for our City the trash should be out by 8am and they wouldn't be collecting any business or school's dumpster at 3am.

I know in my college I don't believe they would be doing that at 3am either and they def. didn't do that at the apartment complex (off campus) I lived at.

I think that's an excuse being used for safety. Somehow in all the residential neighborhoods here in the suburbs you don't hear one complaint from anyone nor have I ever heard a noise that the garbage dumpsters at the schools were being picked up late at night or the wee hours of the morning. That may be a preference to do it at that time OR time management in terms of resources.

Governments usually exempt themselves from their own laws. But like I said, I think safety concerns override a bang in the night.

 

[Hikergirl]

Live in a truck stop? Seriously? A bit over dramatic there don’t ya think?

Yes parking it in your driveway for 3 months make it look like a truck stop.

Extenuating circumstances like not having another way to work?

No taxis, uber or public transportation, no rides from others?

He is being selfish and entitled because he is going to work? Wow.

Nice strawman, this isn't about "going to work" it's about parking his truck where it isn't allowed. But you know that.

How is it a nuisance?
The OP has already complained about the beeping, and maybe being parked in his driveway is blocking OP's line of sight out when she's pulling out of hers.

Why do you feel the right to make the decision of what is a nuisance for the OP?

If seeing a truck every day is “ horrid”, then there are bigger issues here than a truck. Goodness.
Again you have no right to determine that for the OP.

And some work trucks are newer and better looking than personally owned vehicles. So again, over dramatic.

I get it, your dh is a truck driver so you are biased on how ugly and how much of a nuisance they may be parked in a nice residential neighborhood.
The bottom line is that it is against the HOA's rules and does not belong in that driveway. The OP has every right to try to have it removed regardless of your thoughts on the matter.

 

[Disneybuckeye]

Live in a truck stop? Seriously? A bit over dramatic there don’t ya think?

Extenuating circumstances like not having another way to work?

He is being selfish and entitled because he is going to work? Wow.

How is it a nuisance?

If seeing a truck every day is “ horrid”, then there are bigger issues here than a truck. Goodness.

And some work trucks are newer and better looking than personally owned vehicles. So again, over dramatic.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Based on your comments you believe that since the truck would not bother you it should not bother anyone else. Is that not the pot calling the kettle black?

The OP moved into a neighborhood where there was a realistic expectation she would not have to look at a large truck. She has every right to be upset that her expectation is not being met in my opinion. You are entitled to disagree with us as that is your opinion.

OP, good luck getting this resolved which is exactly what I would be working towards also.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

It’s a truck. The man is using it to work. Most people in this world have to have a job.

It may not be a matter of the rule just not suiting him. There could be extenuating circumstances. But hey that doesn’t matter right? It’s a RULE.

And how exactly is his horrid rule breaking hurting the op?

It's a tow truck but consider this from another viewpoint--there are things in the insurance world called attractive nuisances. Any signage on your vehicle can make you an attractive nuisance. I know when I worked on the insurance company we would not write you on the personal lines side if you had any signage on your vehicle even if your business qualified for personal lines. At that point you would have to be written in business lines where the additional exposure could be more accounted for.

Now a neighborhood may have a rule against commercial vehicles or rules pertaining to commercial vehicles in a residential neighborhood for aesthetics but it can also be for other reasons.

A commercial vehicle will almost assuredly have work-related items in it. It's unfortunate but people have their cars broken into especially on the street and one's driveway (and especially if you leave your car unlocked). Things could be stolen from the work vehicle but it could also make a criminal think about going into your home too.

For the OP the rule is those commercial vehicles are supposed to be parked in the garage (and I assume there's probably a rule about keeping the garage doors closed). That can be two fold in possibly decreasing the chances of theft as the vehicle is not continuously visible and easier pickings and not having the aesthetics.