CNN & FOX-Al-Zarqawi killed

[cinmell]

As long as he'd DEAD I don't really care how he died. God Bless our Troops and WELL DONE TO OUR SPECIAL OPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[nightowlky]

*Why* did it take so long to catch a one-legged man who's been killed three times before and was shot in the chest/lung?


Put it this way. Before 2003, Zarqawi was a thug who'd served time in Jordan for threatening to topple the Jordanian monarchy and was hiding out in Northern Iraq, after having been in Afghanistan, where Bush actually had a chance to capture him BEFORE the invasion but he honestly wasn't too worried about him. War was going to happen no matter what. I think Zarqawi was killed early on as some reports allude to:
http://www.conjur.com/blog/2005/11/20/zarqawis-dead-again-3rd-times-a-charm-eh

I think the persona of Zarqawi has been kept up to assign a boogeyman in Iraq that the American people could focus on to keep support going for the war. This isn't much different from the neoconservative attempts to paint the Soviet threat as much worse than it was and also for exaggerating the Islamist movement to keep that perpetual boogeyman of fear out there.

Now that the tide has turned against staying in Iraq, this administration needed to kill off the boogeyman. Pulling troops out beforehand would be admitting "defeat" (the US surely couldn't leave behind a horrible, vicious, murderous man like Zarqawi behind!!). Now, they can pull troops out and save some face and hand over control to the fledgling Iraqi gov't now that Zarqawi is "dead".

 

[goofy's friends]

*Why* did it take so long to catch a one-legged man who's been killed three times before and was shot in the chest/lung?


Put it this way. Before 2003, Zarqawi was a thug who'd served time in Jordan for threatening to topple the Jordanian monarchy and was hiding out in Northern Iraq, after having been in Afghanistan, where Bush actually had a chance to capture him BEFORE the invasion but he honestly wasn't too worried about him. War was going to happen no matter what. I think Zarqawi was killed early on as some reports allude to:
http://www.conjur.com/blog/2005/11/20/zarqawis-dead-again-3rd-times-a-charm-eh

I think the persona of Zarqawi has been kept up to assign a boogeyman in Iraq that the American people could focus on to keep support going for the war. This isn't much different from the neoconservative attempts to paint the Soviet threat as much worse than it was and also for exaggerating the Islamist movement to keep that perpetual boogeyman of fear out there.

Now that the tide has turned against staying in Iraq, this administration needed to kill off the boogeyman. Pulling troops out beforehand would be admitting "defeat" (the US surely couldn't leave behind a horrible, vicious, murderous man like Zarqawi behind!!). Now, they can pull troops out and save some face and hand over control to the fledgling Iraqi gov't now that Zarqawi is "dead".

Are you kidding me??!! and now the conspiracy theories begin.........


I for one am so glad to know he's gone as are the thousands of Iraqi families of those he terrorized and killed.

 

[transparant]

*Why* did it take so long to catch a one-legged man who's been killed three times before and was shot in the chest/lung?


Put it this way. Before 2003, Zarqawi was a thug who'd served time in Jordan for threatening to topple the Jordanian monarchy and was hiding out in Northern Iraq, after having been in Afghanistan, where Bush actually had a chance to capture him BEFORE the invasion but he honestly wasn't too worried about him. War was going to happen no matter what. I think Zarqawi was killed early on as some reports allude to:
http://www.conjur.com/blog/2005/11/20/zarqawis-dead-again-3rd-times-a-charm-eh

I think the persona of Zarqawi has been kept up to assign a boogeyman in Iraq that the American people could focus on to keep support going for the war. This isn't much different from the neoconservative attempts to paint the Soviet threat as much worse than it was and also for exaggerating the Islamist movement to keep that perpetual boogeyman of fear out there.

Now that the tide has turned against staying in Iraq, this administration needed to kill off the boogeyman. Pulling troops out beforehand would be admitting "defeat" (the US surely couldn't leave behind a horrible, vicious, murderous man like Zarqawi behind!!). Now, they can pull troops out and save some face and hand over control to the fledgling Iraqi gov't now that Zarqawi is "dead".

Knew this was coming. How predictable. Like I said before - God Bless our Troops and GREAT JOB TO OUR SPECIAL OPS!

 

[transparant]

Are you kidding me??!! and now the conspiracy theories begin.........


I for one am so glad to know he's gone as are the thousands of Iraqi families of those he terrorized and killed.

You and me both. The fact that he was betrayed by one of his own makes me even happier! I guess there are some that aren't quite as happy about our Airforce taking this monster out.

 

[goofy's friends]

You and me both. The fact that he was betrayed by one of his own makes me even happier! I guess there are some that aren't quite as happy about our Airforce taking this monster out.

Ridiculous, isn't it?

 

[lyeag]

Tinfoil hat anyone??

 

[Teejay32]

I think the persona of Zarqawi has been kept up to assign a boogeyman in Iraq that the American people could focus on to keep support going for the war. This isn't much different from the neoconservative attempts to paint the Soviet threat as much worse than it was and also for exaggerating the Islamist movement to keep that perpetual boogeyman of fear out there.

I think he's a newly-deceased head-chopping nutball.

Cheers, everyone.

 

[MagicKingdom05]

I'm surprised that this thread lasted 6 pages without someone posting there conspiracy theory on here. I knew it would only be time until it happened.

It's like the caller on the radio this afternoon on the way home from work who had the gall to say that this was unjust and that those responsible should be held accountable. I almost ran my car off the road when I heard this.

This guy needed to be taken out, he was taken out yesterday and great job to our military once again.

 

[nightowlky]

Are you kidding me??!! and now the conspiracy theories begin.........


I for one am so glad to know he's gone as are the thousands of Iraqi families of those he terrorized and killed.

Conspiracy theory? Not at all.

Here are the headlines from the past:

Lost a leg in 2002 (but US later changed their tune)
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/FJ15Ak02.html

Killed in March 2004
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A29777-2004Mar4.html

Came back to life to personally behead Nick Berg (post-Abu Ghraib photo release)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1136076/posts
(interesting as no one in that video appeared to be handicapped - Zarqawi had one leg amputated)
http://wais.stanford.edu/Individuals/nickberg.htm

Killed again in Oct. 2004
http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/10-17a-04.asp

Seriously injured or killed in May 2005
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/10500
http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level.php?cat=Terrorism&loid=8.0.165740392&par=0

Zarqawi shot in chest/lung in May 2005
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4579885.stm

Killed and body in Falluja cemetery in June 2005
http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level.php?cat=Terrorism&loid=8.0.173437230&par=0

And now killed again in Nov. 2005

Baghdad imam says Zarqawi killed at beginning of US invasion
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/73570F02-EA07-492F-9E04-C080950DF180.htm

Backed up by this March 2004 article
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4446084/




And, here's General Kimmitt saying The Zarqawi PSYOP program is the most successful information campaign to date."
[size=+2]Military Plays Up Role of Zarqawi[/size]
Jordanian Painted As Foreign Threat To Iraq's Stability
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/09/AR2006040900890_pf.html

 

[TDC Nala]

I am very bothered by the fact that we (Americans) rejoice in human deaths though. I am very sad that we've all been robbed of an innocence that we once had.

You mean, like, in 1945?

 

[Charade]

*Why* did it take so long to catch a one-legged man who's been killed three times before and was shot in the chest/lung?


Put it this way. Before 2003, Zarqawi was a thug who'd served time in Jordan for threatening to topple the Jordanian monarchy and was hiding out in Northern Iraq, after having been in Afghanistan, where Bush actually had a chance to capture him BEFORE the invasion but he honestly wasn't too worried about him. War was going to happen no matter what. I think Zarqawi was killed early on as some reports allude to:
http://www.conjur.com/blog/2005/11/20/zarqawis-dead-again-3rd-times-a-charm-eh

I think the persona of Zarqawi has been kept up to assign a boogeyman in Iraq that the American people could focus on to keep support going for the war. This isn't much different from the neoconservative attempts to paint the Soviet threat as much worse than it was and also for exaggerating the Islamist movement to keep that perpetual boogeyman of fear out there.

Now that the tide has turned against staying in Iraq, this administration needed to kill off the boogeyman. Pulling troops out beforehand would be admitting "defeat" (the US surely couldn't leave behind a horrible, vicious, murderous man like Zarqawi behind!!). Now, they can pull troops out and save some face and hand over control to the fledgling Iraqi gov't now that Zarqawi is "dead".

Hmm... just in time for the mid term elections. How convenient.

 

[JoyG]

This is great news.

I am very bothered by the fact that we (Americans) rejoice in human deaths though. I am very sad that we've all been robbed of an innocence that we once had.

I totally agree.

I'm happy he was caught. I don't need to see the picture of his dead body though. That is just over the top for me and it seems to be happening more and more in the media. I don't like that we're getting comfortable with showing that on television.

We should be pleased that the US has one less terrorist to worry about...but I don't think I could ever say I'm happy he's dead. It's just another piece of the tragic times we're living in.

 

[chernabog]

Mel? Mel Gibson is that you? How is Catcher in the Rye? Kill off the boogeyman ! Good golly, give me a break!

What...wait...Area 51...landing tomorrow...bring tinfoil...

Oh...sorry, those voices in my head were speaking to me again!

 

[nightowlky]

So, General Kimmitt is a conspiracy theorist, too?

Believe everything this gov't (which John Dean has even called Worse than Watergate) tells you?


How's that hunt for WMDs going?


I highly recommend watching the following BBC documentary:

The Power of Nightmares
http://www.archive.org/details/ThePowerOfNightmares

And picking up a copy of Al Qaeda, by Jason Burke

 

[chernabog]

I suppose 9/11, Pearl Harbor, D-Day and the Holocaust never happened either!? Just fabricated stories woven into the fabric of our imaginations, right?

 

[TDC Nala]

Believe everything you see posted on the Internet?

 

[nightowlky]

I suppose 9/11, Pearl Harbor, D-Day and the Holocaust never happened either!? Just fabricated stories woven into the fabric of our imaginations, right?

Let's stick with reality, shall we?

All we know about last night is a house was allegedly bombed by two US fighter jets.

The video clip on CNN today showed NO smoldering remains and showed kids jumping up and down on the rubble. Where were the US military and intelligence people cordoning off the area and searching for documents and other evidence?

Hmmm?

Truth is the first casualty of war and it was long buried in this one.

Watch that BBC documentary and read that book and let the wool fall away.

 

[chernabog]

I just don't believe in conspiracies, especially when it involves innocent civilians, police officers, firemen and the men and women of our armed forces.

 

[nightowlky]

I don't believe in conspiracies either (well, except maybe the JFK/Oswald stuff)

That's why I posted several links of stories about Zarqawi's past deaths and injuries as well as an article quoting US Gen. Kimmitt saying "the Zarqawi PSYOPS program was the most successful information program to date".

Now, feel free to reply to those pieces of information but if you're going to continue the Limbaugh/Hannity method of ad hominems, well, guess that means you have nothing to go on.