CM missing from Wonder 03/22/11??

[maria-fan-22]

and prayers for everyone involved!

 

[DizDragonfly]

Also, there is already some commentary appearing in the media questioning why Disney didn't go public with this news until over 48 hours after the disappearance - and then only after prodding by reporters.

Let's gain some perspective here ... there have been 6 other man overboard incidents already this year amongst the many cruise lines. There were 19 in 2010 and 25 in 2009. How many did you hear reported in the news?

 

[rie'smom]

Not to discount your opinion in any way but why are you on the DCL Board then?

Because I read about the girl and I also have seen posts on the Creative Dis board by people who frequent this section of the DIS.

 

[smilingmouse]

Pravers for all involved

 

[PoppyAnna]

To those connected to this.
I heard this when it broke and became concerned at the thought of somebody disappearing on board a holiday cruise ship particularly as we are about to embark on our first cruise with our two precious children.
To be honest, my curiosity ends there. I have no concern how Disney deals with the issue I just hope their employees and their families are first in their thoughts when they make decisions relating to this sad incident.
I am from England and it is one of my follow citizens that is missing, I feel for her family initially being so far away from their little girl. Whatever has happened and how ever they have been treated, lets hope that none of us have to go through the feelings of utter desperation that they must have. Leave them be to deal with it how they wish. Making up stories and guessing outcomes on this board is hurtful particularly as her family and friends could be reading this as, lets face it, none of us really know whats going on.

 

[Eliza32]

I too am from England and this is a very sad time for her family and friends. Regarding the press reports that the family have flown out and are going to create a storm by searching the ship themselves, I somehow doubt it, it's not what we English do!!!! Maybe they just want to see the ship to feel close to her, and the press should back off and leave them alone!

 

[MandMLUVMMandDVC]

I am sincerely sorry you feel so strongly in such a negative way towards ship life. However, I am also a DCL CM & I have not had such bad experiences that you seem to be alluding to. Yes, ship life is hard work. We get very little time off & are always supposed to have good show- even when we're off the clock. It is very stressful & yes, as with any job- company politics & the way things are done are not always clear but none the less, crappy things are going to be handed down for the higher ups- no matter what job you do. All of these things are made very clear in our interviews, trainings & our first few days aboard the ship. And I knew that had I needed support- I could get it. No matter what. The ship is a great place if you can choose to find a way to be happy with where you are. If you are not happy or feel you're not doing well, there are other roads to take to either leave the company or whatever. Please do not blanket all of us CMs as slaves living in caves.

Well said. Even during the MULTIPLE interviews a CM goes through prior to being hired, it is CLEARLY stated the number of hours, the pay, the tiny cabin, etc. Just as any career, some will love it & some won't.

 

[orlandothebeagle]

I will be setting sail this Sunday on the Wonder as well. This whole situation has made the upcoming trip bittersweet. My family and I had been looking forward to a week of fun and "leaving your cares behind". But now I approach it with a just a tiny bit of trepidation, wondering what the poor CMs are going through and how it's affected their psyche. And I have to admit, it's a little unsettling not knowing all the circumstances involved in Rebecca's disappearance.

As a previous poster had mentioned, it has not been entirely confirmed yet as to whether or not foul play was involved. I understand that as of right now, that is not the case, but who is to say more facts leading to the contrary will not be discovered? Then another side of me thinks, why am I creating all these hypothetical situations. I'm starting to become "one of those people" who create their own fears without all the facts. So I think the plan is to go in with a positive attitude and react based on facts and try to have a good time.

With me being naturally inquisitive, I can see myself bringing up the recent events with some of the CMs and gauging their thoughts on the matter. Of course, I'd do so with the utmost highest level of tact.

No amount of tact would cover it.
It must be hard enough for them without having to be polite when they really want to tell folk to "&%"&*

It is just so so terrible, i hope a miracle occurs and she is safe.
Her poor poor family must be beside themself.

 

[clawmachine]

Someone here recommended the book Cruise Confidential and I read it with great interest. I think it is quite an eye opener about what life is really like for crew members, if anyone is interested. Our server in Palo was so interested in it I really wished I had brought it so I could just give it to him. He seemed grateful that we kind of understood what his job was like from "behind the scenes."

 

[ash-n-brensmom]

If it were my daughter, I would be trying to find a way to get on that ship..with an official escort if necessary, and search EVERY nook and cranny...there are predictable patterns of grieving and denial is first...I would always feel like I didn't do my best to find my baby if I didn't look for her myself! That being said, I feel for DCL as well, as I am sure that will try to help the family as best as they can, and that will make for a complicated turn over on Sunday....
As to all those folks who will be boarding the ship this Sunday...remember that while you want to pass along your sympathy, you aren't the only ones and can you imagine what it would be like to have to face all of that while working...and I don't mean just a nice gesture or a few kind words..I mean the masses of nice gestures and kind words that they may be facing next week...that's a lot for them to process while trying to stay professional. I think it would just be too overwhelming, no matter how kindly meant.

I hope for the family and friends of this young girl...whatever happened, it's tragic.

 

[clawmachine]

I also think it's good to remember the Plato quote that goes something like "be kind, because everyone is fighting a hard battle." This event is fresh, and publicly known, but that doesn't mean that 20 other crew members might not have been going through awful personal things the last time you boarded, or that the cashier at Walmart didn't just find out she had a miscarriage, or that the used car salesman goes home every night to a disabled child, etc, etc. I'm not trying to be preachy in the least- I can get just as cranky as the next person. I'm just trying to make the point, as others have, that while specific words of sympathy might backfire, general kindness, patience and tolerance never will..

 

[kreedham]

Until this is resolved I believe it probably wouldn't be appropriate for those going on the Wonder to bring it up to staff members in conversation.

Maybe take a card on board to give to the youth counselors. Something to the extent of "thinking of you in this difficult time. They often lift our spirit and mood, maybe we can lift theirs!

 

[MouseinMelbourne]

My daughter and I have been struggling with whether we should ask for her to go to the Edge while we are on the Dream in May. it will be 20 days before her 11th birthday. The fact that a CM can disappear into thin air has me feeling that the Lab is the way to go for us. I am sailing alone with her and would rather she not roam alone.

That said, I just told her about the missing CM. We were on the Wonder in October and now she is very worried the missing girl is one of her "friends." (She means CM's, of course.) Her two friends were both from England (as I think the missing CM is) and their names are Jenny and Emma. Does anyone know if they are safe and accounted for?

Our thoughts have been with the family for the past week. I cannot imagine the feelings they have right now. I will keep hoping for a positive outcome.

 

[QuiltTeddy]

Let's gain some perspective here ... there have been 6 other man overboard incidents already this year amongst the many cruise lines. There were 19 in 2010 and 25 in 2009. How many did you hear reported in the news?

To those connected to this.
I heard this when it broke and became concerned at the thought of somebody disappearing on board a holiday cruise ship particularly as we are about to embark on our first cruise with our two precious children.
To be honest, my curiosity ends there. I have no concern how Disney deals with the issue I just hope their employees and their families are first in their thoughts when they make decisions relating to this sad incident.I am from England and it is one of my follow citizens that is missing, I feel for her family initially being so far away from their little girl. Whatever has happened and how ever they have been treated, lets hope that none of us have to go through the feelings of utter desperation that they must have. Leave them be to deal with it how they wish. Making up stories and guessing outcomes on this board is hurtful particularly as her family and friends could be reading this as, lets face it, none of us really know whats going on.

I also think it's good to remember the Plato quote that goes something like "be kind, because everyone is fighting a hard battle." This event is fresh, and publicly known, but that doesn't mean that 20 other crew members might not have been going through awful personal things the last time you boarded, or that the cashier at Walmart didn't just find out she had a miscarriage, or that the used car salesman goes home every night to a disabled child, etc, etc. I'm not trying to be preachy in the least- I can get just as cranky as the next person. I'm just trying to make the point, as others have, that while specific words of sympathy might backfire, general kindness, patience and tolerance never will..

Having watched this thread since it commenced, it just blows my mind how insensitive and self-centered some people are. The posters above have stated my thoughts eloquently. Why everyone feels the need to speculate on facts they have absolutely no personal knowledge about is mystifying. No where has it been indicated that there is any foul play, and IF and UNTIL that comes to light, everyone should try to put themselves in the place of those directly involved. I seriously doubt you would be okay with it.

 

[Rono007]

A previous post said it best, "Be kind, because everyone is fighting a hard battle".

None of us know what is going on ... period. This is not the place for assumptions, accusations or unkind words about the situation or each other. The simple fact is we are not there.

I can tell you from experience (I worked on cruise ships for 5 years) that life aboard the ships can be pretty exciting, but it's also hard, grueling and relentless. Most of us are lucky to have made it out alive - literally.

All I can say at this point is...

Peace, Prayers and Blessings to the staff, family and friends of those aboard the Wonder.

Shine on!

 

[larryz]

I've been on exactly one cruise, and it's sad to think that a ship where I found profound joy and peace is now going through major trauma.

My thoughts and best wishes to the CMs and crew of the Wonder, and the family and friends going thru this turmoil.

 

[AC7179]

First, of course my thoughts and prayers are with this CM and her family, as well as the cruise staff.

 

[orlandothebeagle]

I hear what your saying but I have to say sorry when I am correct and bend over backwards for annoying rude folk, I am sure lots and lots of folk have to do this in the work place, as you get older it comes easier as rightly or wrongly its just less hassle. I am hoping though like my work the nice ones make up for the annoying ones.

 

[mmouse37]

This really is not the thread to discuss CM working conditions. It is understood that they work very hard but this thread is about the missing CM.

Start a new thread if you want to discuss that aspect of ship life....actually it would probably be better on the debate board as that what it will turn into. I will give you some time to cut and paste if you want to start a new thread... I am going to delete it soon.

MJ

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

Until this is resolved I believe it probably wouldn't be appropriate for those going on the Wonder to bring it up to staff members in conversation.

Maybe take a card on board to give to the youth counselors. Something to the extent of "thinking of you in this difficult time. They often lift our spirit and mood, maybe we can lift theirs!

Perfect idea

AKK