Church says girl's communion not valid

[RitaZ.]

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/08/19/communion.denied.ap/index.html

 

[Scratch42]

That is Unbelievable considering everything the Catholic Church has done in recent years!

HYPOCRITES!

Scratch

 

[spacemountain]

Wow. The Catholic Church can really go over the top on some things.

 

[calypso*a*go-go]

Why did she not choose the option to have wine instead? All it would require is a very small sip. I agree that it is a pity that any child should be denied Communion due to a food allergy but it does seem the Catholic Church was willing to work with the family.

 

[Aimeedyan]

Originally posted by calypso*a*go-go
Why did she not choose the option to have wine instead? All it would require is a very small sip. I agree that it is a pity that any child should be denied Communion due to a food allergy but it does seem the Catholic Church was willing to work with the family.

It was my impression was that she could just sip the wine, but that it still wouldn't count because she had to have both sacraments there... though the wording is confusing. I'd assume the child already had the wine, so her mom wouldn't be raising a stink over that, it's that they won't allow a rice wafer in exchange.

It says:
The diocese has told Haley's mother that the girl can receive a low-gluten wafer, or just drink wine at Communion, but that anything without gluten does not qualify. Pelly-Waldman rejected the offer, saying her child could be harmed by even a small amount of the substance.

I am very familiar with Celiac, since I was originally dx with it and lived gluten free for several months. So I was aware of previous issues with the Catholic church over this. I know they do sell gluten free wafers now, just for wheat and gluten intolerant people...

I hope her case is heard and properly responded to. I feel sorry for that litlte girl. Celiac is already hard to live with, you don't need the added embarassment of this.

 

[TheBellhop]

That is just sad...

 

[jimmiej]

It's not about the wafer/cracker or the wine/juice. It's about remembering what Jesus did for us.

 

[shortbun]

Ridiculous!

 

[The Mystery Machine]

Dogma vs Doctrine.

Ha! I give her my full support in her fight to change Doctrine.

 

[auntpolly]

Originally posted by jimmiej
It's not about the wafer/cracker or the wine/juice. It's about remembering what Jesus did for us.

Not really -- for us it's transubstantiation. And we believe it's the real deal.

I'm not defending this diocese -- but I'm not sure if I follow the story well enough. I need to look for more about this.

 

[Betsyt82]

Well at least God loves her and accepts her. People/churches can be so blind sometimes.

 

[Serena]

 

[beattyfamily]

Why didn't she agree that her DD could take the wine instead????????????

This is the doctrine. No shock or surprises. Always been this way. All she had to do was take the wine instead. So simple.

The Priest that gave her the rice waffer was wrong to do so. He and the mother are the reason her First Communion was declared invalid.

Bash away!

 

[auntpolly]

Originally posted by beattyfamily
Why didn't she agree that her DD could take the wine instead????????????

This is the doctrine. No shock or surprises. Always been this way. All she had to do was take the wine instead. So simple.

The Priest that gave her the rice waffer was wrong to do so. He and the mother are the reason her First Communion was declared invalid.

Bash away!

No bashing here - the article says: "<i>The diocese has told Haley's mother that the girl can receive a low-gluten wafer, or just drink wine at Communion</i>

Why didn't she just drink the wine? What? Should everybody just start inventing their own substitute for the <i>Holy Eucharist?</i> How about if I want a peanut butter sandwhich instead? I feel sorry for the little girl but unless I misunderstood they had another option.

 

[beattyfamily]

Originally posted by auntpolly
No bashing here - the article says: "<i>The diocese has told Haley's mother that the girl can receive a low-gluten wafer, or just drink wine at Communion</i>

Why didn't she just drink the wine? What? Should everybody just start inventing their own substitute for the <i>Holy Eucharist?</i> How about if I want a peanut butter sandwhich instead? I feel sorry for the little girl but unless I misunderstood they had another option.

Thanks! And you did not misunderstand, they did have another option.

 

[EsmeraldaX]

That is really terrible. I am not religious, but I really can not understand why just because this little girl has an allergy, they will not let her take communion.

I hope someone higher up in that church steps up and says that this is wrong. I'm sure back when they wrote the scripture, they were not aware of wheat allergies (or whatever she has) and I'm sure they would have found a way around it.

 

[vacationman]

I remember when you could not touch the host. That rule changed and God probably didn't mind. Gluten or no gluten, its not in the Bible. Just another man-made rule.

 

[auntpolly]

Originally posted by EsmeraldaX
That is really terrible. I am not religious, but I really can not understand why just because this little girl has an allergy, they will not let her take communion.

They didn't tell her that. They didn't even tell her she had to take a wafer -- just that she couldn't substitute the wafer for something else.

It might seem silly to some of you, especially non-Catholics -- but I don't judge the things you consider sacred. A lot of the time I don't understand them, but if it's what you believe then I respect that.

 

[beattyfamily]

Originally posted by EsmeraldaX
That is really terrible. I am not religious, but I really can not understand why just because this little girl has an allergy, they will not let her take communion.

I hope someone higher up in that church steps up and says that this is wrong. I'm sure back when they wrote the scripture, they were not aware of wheat allergies (or whatever she has) and I'm sure they would have found a way around it.

Why is it so terrible? Why? She could have received Communion, the wine. Don't know why her mother refused. She COULD take Communion.

If they investigate and say anything's wrong, it will be that that Priest gave her a rice wafer.

There is a way around it, take the wine instead.

 

[EsmeraldaX]

Originally posted by auntpolly
They didn't tell her that. They didn't even tell her she had to take a wafer -- just that she couldn't substitute the wafer for something else.

It might seem silly to some of you, especially non-Catholics -- but I don't judge the things you consider sacred. A lot of the time I don't understand them, but if it's what you believe then I respect that.

Okay. I didn't read the link here. I read an apparently very uninformed article in my morning paper that made no mention of her being offered something else.

If she was offered something else, and was told she'd be fine for communion, then by all means, she should not complain.