Chubby Kids...

[wvjules]

Is Jill Greenberg the one that is making Sarah Palin look like a transvestite?

http://www.disboards.com/showpost.php?p=27596247&postcount=13

I believe that a moron who wears her make-up like an Atlantic City trannie prostitute representing our great country IS an issue. Furthermore, she's a congenital liar.

http://www.disboards.com/showpost.php?p=27599450&postcount=12

People inititally liked Palin because they identify with her. The truth about her is, however, that she is a congenital idiot, she looks like a transvestite, she's a compulsive liar, and she is incompetent and cruel. So, the more that it known about her, the less people are willing to identify with her.

http://www.disboards.com/showpost.php?p=27598695&postcount=5

Let me add that I've had many dealings with trannie prostitutes, and for the most part they have been splendid. I just don't want one to lead the nation.

http://www.disboards.com/showpost.php?p=27599482&postcount=14

Just to list a few.

 

[xoprincessmomxo]

I don't hate fat people! Not in the least! I do wish that my family members who are obese would lose some of the weight to stay healthier! My brother recently lost 100 lbs by diet and exercise and I am soooo proud of him! Did I hate him when he was fat? Heck no! But I worried about him!

But, I do hate seeing obese chilren. I don't hate them, but I hate the fact that they are at such a high risk of diabetes, heart disease, and pre-mature death. I hate seeing a child not be able to run at recess because he loses his breath from being overweight.

 

[SteveInBrooklyn]

Is this really coming from the poster that constantly referred to Gov Palin as a tranny, white trash, and various other names?

Well, she is. But seriously, you do see the differece between criticizing one individual, public figure and an entire group of people, right?

 

[xoprincessmomxo]

http://www.disboards.com/showpost.php?p=27596247&postcount=13

http://www.disboards.com/showpost.php?p=27599450&postcount=12

http://www.disboards.com/showpost.php?p=27598695&postcount=5

http://www.disboards.com/showpost.php?p=27599482&postcount=14

Just to list a few.

Not part of this discussion at all....


Of course, I agree with him on that topic....

 

[wvjules]

Why do you care? Why can't you just live and let live? Why be so judgmental?

Not part of this discussion at all....


Of course, I agree with him on that topic....

When someone posts that other people are being judgemental after some of the stuff that they've said on here, they're going ot get called on it. He brought up being judgemental but apparently when he does it its ok because he doesn't like her or her politics. Saying someone looks like a tranny prostitute is being judgemental.

 

[SteveInBrooklyn]

When someone posts that other people are being judgemental after some of the stuff that they've said on here, they're going ot get called on it. He brought up being judgemental but apparently when he does it its ok because he doesn't like her or her politics. Saying someone looks like a tranny prostitute is being judgemental.

Well, generally it's ok to judge one individual, especially if she is in the public eye. It's pre-judging people based on their membership in a group that is frowned upon. Usually.

 

[islandmum]

I too am wondering why people are getting so defensive, even hostile, when they are asked not to be so down on fat people. .

I'm not 'down on fat people', what I'm 'down' on is parents who are the cause and supplier of their childs obesity - of which there are currently milions.

As an adult you have a choice (in non medical cases) to be the size you are through the food you eat and exercise you take - its their body, go kill it if you want. But to do it to a CHILD is inexcuseable. Thats my judgemental point of view - purely on the parents who do this to their children.

how many 1 and 2 year olds do you see slurping soda's out of sippy cups every day ...... *** would you give your little kids that? Insanty!

 

[dogluva]

You are ENRAGED at me? My daughter is overweight because she has a medical condition that causes weight gain and is also on medicine to treat it that causes weight gain. It is a no win situation and you judging me as a mother does nothing to help our situation.

My daughter is in the OWL program at Children's Hospital in Boston, exercies daily, eats healthy and is pretty much doing everything she can to stay healthy. She also has a very supportive mother who does not buy ANY junk food or take out. I cook healthy, low fat food daily (ask my skinny kids, they eat it too). It is a constant battle we deal with on a dailyl basis and you questioning our mothering skills in Walmart just adds insult to injury.

How dare you.

 

[dogluva]

I have a weight problem. My DD8 has a weight problem. From birth she was bigger than her twin. A pound bigger at birth. 10 pounds bigger by 1 yr. 20 pounds by 4. She remains 20 pounds bigger. They're given the same food. If anything, she eats more fruits and vegetables than he does. I've lost weight and we work hard to have healthy meals and snacks in the house. My kids are enrolled in Tae kwon Do, swimming and play outside. DD has recently been diagnosed with hypothyroidism and is beginning treatment.


But you know what? None of that is your business. You have no clue what kind of things are going on at another person's home. You have no idea what those parents are doing to help or hurt that child. Just as I don't know if your (presumably) thin child is nurtured and loved in your home, or degraded and abused. I don't know if you work hard to provide your child with educational opportunities or are guilty of educational neglect. I don't know if you're raising a cultured, open-minded individual or if you are raising (by example) a foul mouthed bigot.

Just because you see a fat kid doesn't mean you know the whole story. I can't look at your kid and automatically know what kind of parent you are either. It's none of my business and none of your business. Save your anger and pity please.

I completely agree. I have never been so mad at a post as I had towards this one.

The OP knows nothing about my family and how I would cut off my right arm if it meant that my daughter would be a healthy weight. Pretty much the only thing I haven't done to help her. We are working on it the best we can and insensitive and ignorant remarks do nothing to help our situation.

OP-mind your own business. Take care of your children, I will take care of my "chubby" ones.

 

[dogluva]

ThreeMusketeers, thanks for being brave and bringing up this topic.

As a pediatrician, I can tell you that it is a VERY significant problem that is probably the biggest (no pun intended) issue facing us, and our children today.

The NHANES data is the best and most comprehensive statistics on this epidemic - and yes, it is indeed an epidemic. The trend is clear and indisputable:

This is also worth viewing. It is a slide show of the trend for increasing obesity in adults, from 1985 to 2007. Follow the colors in the legend below the map. It is very sobering:

http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/obesity/trend/maps/



I know this is a real crisis and not just charts and numbers. Just today, a patient came to my clinic - 3 1/2 years old, and weighing 120 pounds . . .

There are right ways of bringing up sensitive topcis and there are wrong ways. I don't think the OP is more disgusted that concerned.

 

[dogluva]

Oh, good grief.

You know, StevieBoy, the vast majority of overweight/obese people are NOT professional athletes, WWF wrestlers, body builders, etc.

And the vast majority of fat kids do not have cancer, are on steroids, or have thyroid problems.

You can always find exceptions to just about every "rule", but most fat people are just plain fat.

Is that how you helped your little three year old patient, called him "just plain fat"?

 

[Judy from Boise]

Anyone who carefully reads the majority of the posts in this thread, including the OP, will see that the discussion is about parents who enable their children's obesity by supplying/preparing a majority of poor nutritional choices.
And, how it can be a form a child "neglect" and how as a society we all bear the financial burden of the pattern.

 

[cheermom1]

I find this all so awful for kids - every one has said that they are NOT talking about people and children with medical issues - they are talking about children who are just plain eating poorly with no exercise and YES that blame should be on the parents they buy the food and cook it or they go out to eat and get unhealthy food which is NOT good for the kids which is what this is all about - this is NOT a bash fat people at all it is a concern for the over weight people and children - I am sorry for those that feel it is a bash session just maybe though that if you feel that it is then do something about it and make yourself healthy - note that I said HEALTHY!!!!

edited to say that I have a child in my home that I have to watch what he eats all the time b/c he is prone to gaining weight and it has paid off b/c he is leaner then he used to be - I say that it was ME that had to point it out to my dh and i was very concerned for him it took a while to get it on track but I did it! he wanted to eat junk but I wouldn't let any of them so i wasn't singling anyone out....

 

[cheermom1]

Anyone who carefully reads the majority of the posts in this thread, including the OP, will see that the discussion is about parents who enable their children's obesity by supplying/preparing a majority of poor nutritional choices.
And, how it can be a form a child "neglect" and how as a society we all bear the financial burden of the pattern.

I totally agree great post

 

[funkehouse]

I think its much much more expensive to eat healthy these days also. if your on a tight budget and dont have much money, its a lot cheaper to buy the Kraft Macaroni and cheese, and the canned soup, and the 99 cent double cheese burgers then it is to buy a nice skinless chicken breast, or a multi grain bread. they have set it up in most grocery stores this way, if you want cheap food thats bad for you its EVERYWHERE, you have to look for the good healthy stuff and they jack the price WAY up. if your a single parent, on one income, and you have 50 bucks a week to budget for that weeks meals, you are almost forced to eat crappy food, or get a few healthy meals and starve the rest of the time. there is probably at least 10 times as much processes food in stores than there was in the 50s and 60s. microwave meals and fast food is everwhere these days, its tough to raise a healthy kid in 2008, and the current weight epidemic proves it...

 

[Castlebound]

Anyone who carefully reads the majority of the posts in this thread, including the OP, will see that the discussion is about parents who enable their children's obesity by supplying/preparing a majority of poor nutritional choices.
And, how it can be a form a child "neglect" and how as a society we all bear the financial burden of the pattern.

I agree!

 

[PaulaSB12]

Well, the CDC disagrees with you. Since they have access to much better medical information, I'll take their facts over your opinion.

Well as the bmi was designed by a maths expert studying social physics they also are wrong
http://www.aphroditewomenshealth.com/news/bmi_lie.shtml
Actually, the scale is wrong and the BMI is flawed on a number of levels. Furthermore, the 2004 scare-stats put out by the Centers for Disease Control - that 400,000 deaths in the US were caused annually by obesity - were flawed to the point of deliberate lying. They measured how many of the people who died in the given year - died at all; in car crashes, of Lyme's disease, in bar fights, whatever, it didn't matter, they were all lumped in there - were obese, and then lumped all the deaths of obese people in as death from obesity. It's roughly analogous to saying that a smoker who dies in a cholera outbreak died of smoking. They may have been trying to give people a wake-up call but it's shockingly untruthful.

 

[mkingdomlvr]

Well as the bmi was designed by a maths expert studying social physics they also are wrong
http://www.aphroditewomenshealth.com/news/bmi_lie.shtml
Actually, the scale is wrong and the BMI is flawed on a number of levels. Furthermore, the 2004 scare-stats put out by the Centers for Disease Control - that 400,000 deaths in the US were caused annually by obesity - were flawed to the point of deliberate lying. They measured how many of the people who died in the given year - died at all; in car crashes, of Lyme's disease, in bar fights, whatever, it didn't matter, they were all lumped in there - were obese, and then lumped all the deaths of obese people in as death from obesity. It's roughly analogous to saying that a smoker who dies in a cholera outbreak died of smoking. They may have been trying to give people a wake-up call but it's shockingly untruthful.

Do you have actual statistics to back that up from a non-biased organization?

The CDC is non-profit.

 

[HumanLegs]

At DD's school there's a boy who's about 5. I was SHOCKED to see how big he is. He must weigh 75-100lbs. It was hard for him to play and walk around. I was so sad for him. He might have some kind of medical condition, I don't know but it was still a bummer that he couldn't play or keep up with the other kids.

DD went thru a spell where she was off the weight charts. I think she was 2. She's my first kid so I was following what the doc told me to do. Vitamin D milk, that sort of thing. Then the doc put her on a diet. DD didn't lose any weight but she grew 2 inches so it evened itself out. Thing is, DD has always been at the higher spectrum for height and weight. Her father is 6'3 and 250lbs. I think she inherited his stature. She quite stocky and solidly built and taller than the other kids in class. She looks to be 6-7 and she's only 4! I hope things even out for her cause sometimes other kids are a bit intimitated by her.

I was always overweight, so was my sister. Once I turned 16 my weight started to even out. Not that I was ever skinny but I was a more normal weight. Not so much now! Haha. My sis was the same way. Actually obese around 13-14 then hormones or something evened out her weight. I think sometimes obese kids don't necessarily become obese adults.

 

[jodifla]

A lot of weight goes by genetics. In my friend's family of five children, 3 took after the mom, who was heavy, and two took after the dad, who was always thin.

These folks ate the same foods growing up, yet the weight difference was striking even by the time the five kids were in middle school.

Me, I have better things to do with my time than watch what other people put into their food carts, or try to figure out if they are "bad" parents, or have other medical concerns that I can thank my LUCKY STARS that I am not having to deal with.

(For the record, my DS takes after his father....he's long and lean, just like his dad was when he was little. 95 percentile for height his while life, 5 percentile to 50 percentile for weight, depending on the age).