Child-free, but not by choice?

[PrincessSuzanne]

I am so off topic right now, but I'm so excited I just booked a short trip to WDW for My DH's Birthday in August. I feel like I have hit the lottery. He wanted to go to Panama City Beach, but I figured out how to go to WDW for just a little more money. I am really excited ,and I think we might even be able to go the the Pirate and Princess Party.

Suzanne

 

[hematite153]

I am so off topic right now, but I'm so excited I just booked a short trip to WDW for My DH's Birthday in August. ...

 

[R Dog Walt]

I am so off topic right now, but I'm so excited I just booked a short trip to WDW for My DH's Birthday in August. I feel like I have hit the lottery. He wanted to go to Panama City Beach, but I figured out how to go to WDW for just a little more money. I am really excited ,and I think we might even be able to go the the Pirate and Princess Party.

Suzanne

Woo hoo! Sounds awesome! I hear the Pirate and Princess parties are excellent!!! Where are you staying?

What a great trip to look forward to!

 

[SumMickeyfans]

I am so off topic right now, but I'm so excited I just booked a short trip to WDW for My DH's Birthday in August.

Good for you Suzanne!!! I am also going in August but I am going the 1st week! Hope you have a FABULOUS time

Hello to everyone else out there!!!

 

[brightspark]

Hi there, well dh and I just got back from a gynae appointment! Feel rubbish.. had the lovely internal exam to check everything ok - which thankfully it is, but he's now putting me on a 3-4 month waiting list to check my tubes... Also dh's last SA was so much better that he wants him to wait another 4 months for another one to see what happens to that. I'm 34 and fed up of waiting on more tests... I want to get on with this whole thing...

Anyone else fed up with the waiting.

Sorry girls taht I've not had the chance to read all the posts yet.. kinda busy here. I sometimes visit another site to babycentre.com (or I use the uk one) but they have an ivf board which is quite good. It's a busy site so lots of people to chat to.

 

[hematite153]

Hi there, well dh and I just got back from a gynae appointment! Feel rubbish.. had the lovely internal exam to check everything ok - which thankfully it is, but he's now putting me on a 3-4 month waiting list to check my tubes... Also dh's last SA was so much better that he wants him to wait another 4 months for another one to see what happens to that. I'm 34 and fed up of waiting on more tests... I want to get on with this whole thing...

Anyone else fed up with the waiting.

Definitely! I'm really glad we started working me up about 7 months before we were ready to give up on my DW. It meant that we got a reasonably smooth transition--we've managed 3 tries in the 7 months since we switched. Before, I started all of this I thought you got to try every month--silly me!

However, along the way, we waited a long time (several times) for my DW's test results. Once we waited 3 months for an MRI that didn't even provide any information! Another time we waited 4 months for surgery that got cancelled about 30 minutes before she was due to go in--i.e. after being fully prep'd. Then 1 month to reschedule surgery--1 month by agreeing to have a different surgeon. All to discover that she didn't actually need surgery--not discovered until the post-surgery analysis!

I am fortunate, though, that my dr has a habit of discussing the next 2-3 interventions when we meet with her. So, she says, let's try X. If X works as planned continue it for 3 tries. However, if X causes symptom Y then we should do Z. Tell the nurses that you have already discussed it with me and you understand what is happening. Tell them to give me your file and I will write the prescription.

One thing to consider with regards to the tube-testing is that they are usually trying to do the test within a fairly narrow window of your cycle. This makes it hard to schedule. I was initially bumped to the next month a bunch of times until I hit a nurse who read my file more thoroughly and noticed that the timing wasn't important. The window they give you is about making sure they don't interupt a spontaneous pregnancy. You could probably get them to test in a wider window (meaning you could take a cancellation) if you agreed not to have sex. Might not matter though if you are waiting for a SA anyway. Just a thought.

 

[brightspark]

Oh dear it's such a minefield... the gynae didn't even talk about my cycle with me, just that he's going to book me in for an x-ray, but if thats inconclusive they'll do a laparoscopy... But there was no mention that it had to be at a particular time of the month. We have a relation who is a clerk to the the gynae ward at the hospital, so she's going to try and bump our names up the list (she did that for this appointment). I like to be in control and this is all so frustrating.

Thanks for being nice to me!

 

[hematite153]

Oh dear it's such a minefield... the gynae didn't even talk about my cycle with me, just that he's going to book me in for an x-ray, but if thats inconclusive they'll do a laparoscopy... But there was no mention that it had to be at a particular time of the month. We have a relation who is a clerk to the the gynae ward at the hospital, so she's going to try and bump our names up the list (she did that for this appointment). I like to be in control and this is all so frustrating.

Thanks for being nice to me!

That does somehow sound different from what I had. They used an ultrasound along with a special probe, air bubbles (and bubbles of some type of special dye). Believe me, it was a far from pleasant experience but my dr can be amusing and the US tech was friendly and they both explained what was going on (and I could watch it on the screen) so it wasn't horrible.

I seem to recall my DW having some x-rays...she had some abnormalities on the first US. I'll ask her if she remembers.

Although an x-ray won't mess with the uterine wall, it could still disrupt a spontaneous pregnancy. So, I would think it still matters.

Ask your relative exactly what your orders say and then you can do some specific research.

Good luck with it all! And, if you can manage it, try to believe that patience will pay off.

 

[R Dog Walt]

Hi there, well dh and I just got back from a gynae appointment! Feel rubbish.. had the lovely internal exam to check everything ok - which thankfully it is, but he's now putting me on a 3-4 month waiting list to check my tubes... Also dh's last SA was so much better that he wants him to wait another 4 months for another one to see what happens to that. I'm 34 and fed up of waiting on more tests... I want to get on with this whole thing...

Anyone else fed up with the waiting.
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Yes, I'm definitely tired of waiting!!!! I feel like there is a lot of "hurry up and wait" with IF treatments. I had to wait months to start this treatment or that treatment and months to wait for testing and months on a waiting list for embryos and ... I hate WAITING!!!!

The only test I know to check tubes is the HSG (hysterosalpingogram). That's the one with the dye that hematite mentioned. When both DP and I had this, we both had to do it on day 9 or 10 of our cycle. My DP had to have a lap after the HSG to check for endometriosis and to see what problems she might have because of it appeared her tube was blocked. Of course, she had to wait 2 months to get the lap scheduled! She goes in Friday for her post op, we'll find out.

Good luck!

 

[PrincessSuzanne]

Woo hoo! Sounds awesome! I hear the Pirate and Princess parties are excellent!!! Where are you staying?

What a great trip to look forward to!

Well, right now we are booked for All Star Movies, but I don't know I might change it. I am so looking forward to it. I have been whining since we got back in December that I wanted to go again and I finally won, even if it is only for two days. I'm "home" sick

Suzanne

 

[DznyLvr2005]

I'm anxiously awating my husband and I's Chromosome analysis for my 2 miscarriages... I'm so scared right now
It should be about a week until we get our results... I'm almost 100% positive that we don't have a genetic problem...
I just don't know what's wrong
I have a paper the genetic councelor gave us...
It says there are many reasons for miscarriages...
1)hormonal problems
2)random chromosone problems at conception (this does not mean WE have chromome problems, this just means that this can happen, which she said happens out of 50% off all pregnancies because 50% off all pregnacies end in miscarriage!!!) so this leaves me with the though, how are there so many kids in the world!?!?!?
3)blood clotting problems
4)immune problems
etc...etc...etc...
Geneticist said that the MD won't even think twice about my two losses, actualy what she said was that "he won't be impressed" IMPRESSED?!? ughhh!!
Wish us luck please

 

[hematite153]

...she said ... 50% off all pregnacies end in miscarriage!!!

Yes. According to the numbers from my clinic...

80% of the time that an egg and sperm come into contact the egg is fertilized. But, only 1/4 of these lead to a live birth.

An article I read in a fertility magazine said that 71% of pregnancies in NA are unplanned.

It does make one wonder whether anyone practices safe-sex! I mean, the numbers certainly suggest that there should be a lot fewer babies if people were actually paying attention to the issue.

The (hopefully) good news is that IVF is supposed to have better odds of a live birth. I noticed that when I was looking at these numbers there is a wide range depending upon clinic. For those of you who are dr/clinic shopping, try asking for their numbers.

 

[hematite153]

I'm anxiously awating my husband and I's Chromosome analysis for my 2 miscarriages... I'm so scared right now
It should be about a week until we get our results...

P.S. I've got my fingers crossed for you.

 

[brightspark]

Yes, I'm definitely tired of waiting!!!! I feel like there is a lot of "hurry up and wait" with IF treatments. I had to wait months to start this treatment or that treatment and months to wait for testing and months on a waiting list for embryos and ... I hate WAITING!!!!

The only test I know to check tubes is the HSG (hysterosalpingogram). That's the one with the dye that hematite mentioned. When both DP and I had this, we both had to do it on day 9 or 10 of our cycle. My DP had to have a lap after the HSG to check for endometriosis and to see what problems she might have because of it appeared her tube was blocked. Of course, she had to wait 2 months to get the lap scheduled! She goes in Friday for her post op, we'll find out.

Good luck!

Good luck to you too!
This HSG is what I'm going to be having - oh great joy! I just met with a friend who's on her second ICSI and she warned me that this HSG thing is really nasty. She (like me) thought it was just an x-ray (that's what we get told) and went on her own. She was really sick and had to call her mum to come and get her from the hospital! UGH.

Going to chase up the private clinic and check they've had our referral. If we go with them... there is practically no wait - but we have to find the cash.

 

[SumMickeyfans]

I'm anxiously awating my husband and I's Chromosome analysis

DznyLvr2005....So you and your husband had Chrmosome testing done?? I remember when my husband and I had that done. They took like 4 vials of blood from him and a Whopping 15 Vials from me They only did like 2 tests on him and a LOT on me. All of my tests took about a 1 and a 1/2 months to come back. Is that what you had done?? I wish you the best of luck girlie!!

 

[DznyLvr2005]

DznyLvr2005....So you and your husband had Chrmosome testing done?? I remember when my husband and I had that done. They took like 4 vials of blood from him and a Whopping 15 Vials from me They only did like 2 tests on him and a LOT on me. All of my tests took about a 1 and a 1/2 months to come back. Is that what you had done?? I wish you the best of luck girlie!!

Hi
I had three vials on me and only one for him!
They said ours should take 2 weeks. They were only chekcing for abnormal arramgements of chromosomes or soemthing like that... Also 2 other things on me... But I can'e remember what they were...
How did your tests go when you got the results?
Thanks!

 

[R Dog Walt]

DznyLvr2005- I hope you find out some valuable information from these tests. I hope it's not a genetic issue for you guys. I hope the test results come in soon. Waiting can be impossible!

brightspark- The HSG isn't particularly comfortable. Some people have a harder time than others. I had no problems when it really, but my partner had a difficult time. The dr. couldn't find her cervix for a long time!

I just tried making ressies through DVC for BCV for Dec. 30- Jan. 1. No such luck for a studio. (I told DP that we should have booked earlier!
She never listens!) We'll have to wait until the 7 month window opens up. I think we're going to try for OKW in a 1 bedroom since my aunt and her 2 year old son may come. This way when he went to bed in the evening, we could still all hang out together in the living room. I guess I'll call day by day once the 7 month window opens up.

Suzanne- I'm still so excited for you about your trip!

 

[SumMickeyfans]

How did your tests go when you got the results?

I think my Immune Testing took so long because we live in a rather small town my blood had to be shipped out to all these different labs that performed these tests All of my other tests came back Normal except for the Karotype Test they did That's where they found the "Balanced Translocation of Chromosome 5 & 6" (my D/H came back normal).
I found this and I also had them done.

The following blood tests are recommended for the Female:

1. Test for anticardiolipin antibody, if positive, usually treated with 1 baby aspirin a day
2. Test for antinuclear antibody, a titre over 1:40 is cause for concern and is treated with Prednisone, usually 5 mg twice a day on day one of the menstrual cycle and increased to 10 mg twice a day at the time of a positive pregnancy test and continued for at least 12 weeks of pregnancy. Follow-up blood tests may be needed.
3. Test for antiphospholipid antibodies, if positive, treated starting on day 6 of the menstrual cycle with either Heparin injections, 5,000 units once a day or Fragmin injections, 2500 units once a day and continued until at least 12 weeks of pregnancy. Fragmin is preferred because it causes less stress on the body. Follow-up blood tests may be needed.
In addition the couple should be tested for HLA compatibility, also known as DQ-Alpha testing. This determines whether the couple is so similar that the female's immune system does not produce protective antibodies to protect the fetus because her body does not recognize the cells arising from her partner as foreign.

BRIGHTSPARK.......Totally agree with r Dog Walt...I t depends on the person...With my 1st HSG I had absolutely no problem...With my 2nd one It was so much pain!! Who knows why!! It would be nice if it was "just an X-Ray". Try taking some Tylenol an hour before (ask if it's ok) My doc said it was....Anyway...should help with the cramping if any.

 

[hematite153]

This HSG is what I'm going to be having - oh great joy! I just met with a friend who's on her second ICSI and she warned me that this HSG thing is really nasty. She (like me) thought it was just an x-ray (that's what we get told) and went on her own. She was really sick and had to call her mum to come and get her from the hospital! UGH.

Well, it wasn't fun but it also wasn't all that much worse than IUI.
I also went alone (DW travels for work) and was able to drive myself safely.

Two recommendations:
1. My clinic suggested that I take Advil 2 hours before the procedure.
2. My clinic asked me to sit in the waiting room for 30 minutes before I considered leaving. I started out feeling awful, but after about 20 minutes my blood pressure seemed to level out and I was okay. (I might try bringing orange juice if I were to do it again.)

 

[hematite153]

BRIGHTSPARK.......Totally agree with r Dog Walt...I t depends on the person...With my 1st HSG I had absolutely no problem...With my 2nd one It was so much pain!! Who knows why!! It would be nice if it was "just an X-Ray". Try taking some Tylenol an hour before (ask if it's ok) My doc said it was....Anyway...should help with the cramping if any.

Don't know if it matters but my clinic specifically told me to take Advil--they said not to take Tylenol.