chicken pox at disneyland...

Me neither *sigh* Allz I can say is it's a good thing I was at the hossy when I had both kids! :confused3

There are worse things than a homebirth...How about giving birth in the water...with dolphins? I am not making this up....

http://www.geburtskanal.de/index.ht...e/Wissen/W/Wassergeburt_BirthWithDolphins.php

This part is great..."Dr. Motha, 43, has spent 20 years researching childbirth, and believes that dolphins can help a woman deliver with almost no pain by passing an underwater sonar messages of support. And Sarah agrees: "Giving birth in the Red Sea with the dolphins was the most wonderful experience of my life," she says. "I was in complete control of the situation and didn't feel under any pressure to perform, as you do in a hospital with the doctors and nurses milling about."
 
Oh the vaccine is far from full proof. I've worked in the medical community and saw a lot of parents confused when their children came down with it anyway. Chicken pox is a wierd thing, like I said, I've had it TWICE naturally!

I completely understand not vaxing when there is a medical reason not too. My heart goes out to anyone with a child that had a bad reaction. But I do believe in herd immunity. Those of us who do vax keeps those children who didn't safer. Although I know people disagree with that, I'd say we'd still have things like Polio running rampant if that wasn't the case. So it worries me that we'll start to really see the return of such awful diseases as the anti-vax movement gets bigger.
 
I gosh I would be so scared of this. I'm 20 and have never had chicken pox. I got the vaccine when I was 11 but like others have said, it's not foolproof so I have lived in fear of getting the dreaded adult chicken pox. I can only imagine how stinky getting the chicken pox at Disneyland would be. How unmagical.

I'm 21 and I've never had CP either.

I had the vaccine when I was a kid (I have to ask my Mom what age).

DBF's Mom had shingles awhile back and I wasn't sure if I should stay away so I didn't get CP or stay over and hang out with her so I DO get it before I get older.

I have no idea what I'm going to do when I have kids and they get the CP... :confused3
 

haha you hope!! Maybe this is where people should hold CP parties LOL

BTW, a tip I learned that works great for CP as well as eczema (I'm sure you know it) but for the oatmeal baths, if you put oatmeal in a cut off pair of pantyhose and tie the top in a knot, it'll save your drain :)

May your 7 year old's case be light!

thanks for the tip! actually, because of the eczema issues we dealt with in years past, we are VERY familiar with the wonders of oatmeal baths, lol. however, i just recently read something that said baths could help spread more pox to more areas (most notably, some tender areas that we would rather not have pox!). so, so far i've just had my son take showers, just incase that's true. this is the third day that he's had spots appearing, and from what i've read it sounds like new spots only appear for 4 days. so hopefully, that's true, and he'll be on the upswing again in just another day or so!
 
There are worse things than a homebirth...How about giving birth in the water...with dolphins? I am not making this up....

http://www.geburtskanal.de/index.ht...e/Wissen/W/Wassergeburt_BirthWithDolphins.php

This part is great..."Dr. Motha, 43, has spent 20 years researching childbirth, and believes that dolphins can help a woman deliver with almost no pain by passing an underwater sonar messages of support. And Sarah agrees: "Giving birth in the Red Sea with the dolphins was the most wonderful experience of my life," she says. "I was in complete control of the situation and didn't feel under any pressure to perform, as you do in a hospital with the doctors and nurses milling about."


Thats good. I have never heard of dolphin births before!

What about an unassisted birth?

http://www.unassistedchildbirth.com/ucstories/

I was also glad I was in the hospital for both my kiddos... had emergancy csections with both.

Boy, this topic sure got off on a tangent!
 
Boy, this topic sure got off on a tangent!

Aren't they supposed to after a couple pages?:thumbsup2

We had a friend who's wife gave birth on their driveway - waiting for the ambulance.... All we could say, was "Dang!";)

We have friends that have gone all directions. Homebirth, midwife, water, hospital. We aren't particularly granola about homebirth - being and older mom, I wanted the security of the hospital and the epidural! We have others that did a great job, and one that probably wished she would have had a hospital birth instead of the water homebirth. Her son ended up having a ton of medical issues due to "stuck shoulder". They had to fly him to a children's hospital in another state for a series of surgeries. He's doing better, but if he would have been birthed in a hospital, it could have all been avoided.
 
I had my youngest two in the water at a birthing center. I wouldn't trade those experiences for a hospital birth EVER.
 
We have others that did a great job, and one that probably wished she would have had a hospital birth instead of the water homebirth. Her son ended up having a ton of medical issues due to "stuck shoulder". They had to fly him to a children's hospital in another state for a series of surgeries. He's doing better, but if he would have been birthed in a hospital, it could have all been avoided.

my son (the one who now has chicken pox) experienced this during birth as well (shoulder dystocia). it was VERY scary, and even though we were at the hospital, when it was all said and done the nurses told us we were "very lucky" that he had survived (he nearly suffocated). they had to work on him for a long time after the delivery just to get him breathing...he was gray and all i could think of was that scene from E.T. where E.T. is dying and turns gray. ugh, i shudder at the memory....

they told us that most often, they must actually break the child's shoulder (or collarbone?) to get them out, and said again, that we were "very lucky" that he had not had to have that done. he was 9.5 lbs., and they attributed his shoulder dystocia to his size. (and that was at being born one full week before his due date...imagine if he'd gone to term or a little over, like most babies).

but because of it, my subsequent two children were monitored very closely during pregnancy, just to make sure they didn't get so big that we might risk the same type of event. it was so scary to me. i actually told the physicians that if they thought there was ANY chance it would happen, to just give me a c-section. but fortunately, my last two weighed in at 8.2 and 8.3 respectively, so there were no complications as far as shoulder dystocia goes. whew!

my dear cousin, on the other hand, delivered both of her babies at home, in a water tub, and didn't have a single complication. she actually wanted an unassisted birth for the second child, but i think her husband was a little too nervous to go without at least having a midwife there.

unfortunately, lots of babies are lost during delivery due to physician error, so sadly, just being at a hospital during childbirth isn't the guarantee that i definitely wish it was!

personally, i'm really glad my child-birthing days are behind me. as much as i love anticipating the event, my husband and i also always found it very frightening after having such a close call during our son's delivery.
 
my son (the one who now has chicken pox) experienced this during birth as well (shoulder dystocia). it was VERY scary, and even though we were at the hospital, when it was all said and done the nurses told us we were "very lucky" that he had survived (he nearly suffocated). they had to work on him for a long time after the delivery just to get him breathing...he was gray and all i could think of was that scene from E.T. where E.T. is dying and turns gray. ugh, i shudder at the memory....

they told us that most often, they must actually break the child's shoulder (or collarbone?) to get them out, and said again, that we were "very lucky" that he had not had to have that done. he was 9.5 lbs., and they attributed his shoulder dystocia to his size. (and that was at being born one full week before his due date...imagine if he'd gone to term or a little over, like most babies).

but because of it, my subsequent two children were monitored very closely during pregnancy, just to make sure they didn't get so big that we might risk the same type of event. it was so scary to me. i actually told the physicians that if they thought there was ANY chance it would happen, to just give me a c-section. but fortunately, my last two weighed in at 8.2 and 8.3 respectively, so there were no complications as far as shoulder dystocia goes. whew!

my dear cousin, on the other hand, delivered both of her babies at home, in a water tub, and didn't have a single complication. she actually wanted an unassisted birth for the second child, but i think her husband was a little too nervous to go without at least having a midwife there.

unfortunately, lots of babies are lost during delivery due to physician error, so sadly, just being at a hospital during childbirth isn't the guarantee that i definitely wish it was!

personally, i'm really glad my child-birthing days are behind me. as much as i love anticipating the event, my husband and i also always found it very frightening after having such a close call during our son's delivery.

Hey mugglemama... we had a similar experience. Instead of actually delivering though, I had an emergancy c. With my first I went through the whole deal, pushing, episiotomy etc. At the point of her crowning... they decided that shoulder dyscoxia (sp?) was a real possibility, and were fearful her head would deliver but not her body. Forcing them to break her shoulders. At any rate, I was glad to be at the hospital;)
 
I'm 21 and I've never had CP either.

I had the vaccine when I was a kid (I have to ask my Mom what age).

DBF's Mom had shingles awhile back and I wasn't sure if I should stay away so I didn't get CP or stay over and hang out with her so I DO get it before I get older.

I have no idea what I'm going to do when I have kids and they get the CP... :confused3

Whoa, I don't know why I never thought about having kids with CP thing...I've made myself paranoid about it in every other way. Oh geeez. I was exposed to it multiple times as a kid(before the vaccine) but never got it, so I'm hoping I just have a crazy immunity towards it.

Either way, I am still paranoid about adult, life-threatening chicken pox.
 
Whoa, I don't know why I never thought about having kids with CP thing...I've made myself paranoid about it in every other way. Oh geeez. I was exposed to it multiple times as a kid(before the vaccine) but never got it, so I'm hoping I just have a crazy immunity towards it.

Either way, I am still paranoid about adult, life-threatening chicken pox.

you know, i think i read somewhere that 10% of the population is just immune to chicken pox. my dad, who is 74 now, has never had them, either. when my oldest had them 11 years ago, he came over and i was mortified! i insisted he not come into the house, and go home...after all, he was 63 at that time, and i was worried he would be seriously affected if he got them. he just shrugged, told me "if i haven't gotten them by now, i'm not going to get them", and walked past me into the house to hand my chicken-pox covered 5 year old the present he'd brought her. and he was right, he never got them.

TORTUGAVERDE- So sorry to hear of your experience!! how scary that must have been. are you saying that they ended up having to break your baby's shoulders? or that they gave the c-section to avoid having to?

either way, i hope your little one is perfectly healed and totally well!! :hug:

shoulder dystocia is such a scary ordeal, and so dangerous. and despite having read probably half a dozen pregnancy books from beginning to end at that point, i had never even heard of it until it happened to my son.
 
But would you have traded that had there been complications?

Why would I want to play the "what if" game when I had no complications?

There was a hostpital less than half a mile away from the birthing center if for any reason I would need it.
 
I had my youngest two in the water at a birthing center. I wouldn't trade those experiences for a hospital birth EVER.

so glad you had such great experiences! i wish, when i'd had my own children, that the hospitals that we lived near had a natural birthing center *within* them....some do! they have the tub where you can give birth, etc., and of course you can have your midwife and/or doula there, but then the hospital facilities are there if you need them, too. ah, the best of both worlds in my opinion, lol!

we moved to a new state shortly before i became prego with my last child, and i didn't realize until after his birth that the hospital was only a certain *level* of hospital (we had spent our lives in a large metro area and were accustomed to top of the line hospitals, and i don't think i ever considered that some hospitals are better than others, simply because we'd had the luxury of good ones for so long). i'm not sure what the levels are, whether 1 is the best, or 4 is the best, depending on the capabilities of their facilities. but the one we were at, in a pretty small northwestern arizona town, was the lowest level! e-gads! and even though the coziness of the hospital meant that i had a very low stress, very natural-ish delivery that i was basically in complete control of, it also means that if i'd had any serious complications, i (and my baby) would have been out of luck, anyway, *despite* being at a hospital! we would have had to be transported to larger metro hospitals for adequate care, and who knows if that would have taken place soon enough to save anybody in a life & death situation? i didn't realize any of that beforehand.

i think many of the more progressive, and bigger cities, have these high level hospitals *with* the natural birthing centers inside, too. that would have been my optimal choice, if i'd had one.
 
Yikes, that is one suvineer you don't want to bring home from DL!! We homeschool too, sure cuts out on all the illnesses they bring home from school. But sadly you still get in contact with all the "goodies" in other ways!

My son had his booster last year for the chickenpox. I was actually one of those lucky people that had them TWICE as a child. Once when I was 4, and again when I was 12. The second time was NASTY too! I still wonder about my immunity to them!

Hope he feels better soon!

They can actually test your immunity to the virus... ask your Dr. I was lucky enough to have them 3 times, the third while I was pregnant... after that bout they believe I actually have an immunity... I HOPE.
 
Whoa, I don't know why I never thought about having kids with CP thing...I've made myself paranoid about it in every other way. Oh geeez. I was exposed to it multiple times as a kid(before the vaccine) but never got it, so I'm hoping I just have a crazy immunity towards it.

Either way, I am still paranoid about adult, life-threatening chicken pox.

I'm hoping I'm immune too. I'm more afraid about adult chicken pox too. It's scary!
 
We don't vaccinate our kids either. I would like for them to catch chicken pox naturally, but it would be awful for all four to get sick at the same time.
 
Why would I want to play the "what if" game when I had no complications?

There was a hostpital less than half a mile away from the birthing center if for any reason I would need it.

True, the what if game is dumb...But I'm playing for a second.

If I'd given birth at home I would've died within minutes. No hospital could've saved me if I was in transit.

Not to say your experience wasn't amazing and fantastic. That's just why some people (me) don't 'get' it.

:)
 












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