CDC Cruise Ship Active Covid Status Onboard

[Shelly F - Ohio]

This might be helpful for those who are cruising to see if a ship has Covid on board. Just Google CDC quarantine cruise ship color status.

 

[tvguy]

This might be helpful for those who are cruising to see if a ship has Covid on board. Just Google CDC quarantine cruise ship color status.

Problem is, cruise lines are not required to report covid cases. Not sure how helpful this is on the honor system.

 

[sethschroeder]

CDC quarantine cruise ship color

This is the link
https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/cruise/cruise-ship-color-status.html

 

[sabrecmc]

Lots of oranges and yellows, but a good amount of green, too.

 

[Sykes]

Problem is, cruise lines are not required to report covid cases. Not sure how helpful this is on the honor system.

Every cruise line operating from the US has opted in to voluntarily complying with terms of the CDC's CSO, so they are obligated to report cases to the CDC. The CDC says that if a ship opts out of reporting their status will turn gray on that page, and if they are opted in but do not submit their daily status report it'll turn red.

 

[tvguy]

Every cruise line operating from the US has opted in to voluntarily complying with terms of the CDC's CSO, so they are obligated to report cases to the CDC. The CDC says that if a ship opts out of reporting their status will turn gray on that page, and if they are opted in but do not submit their daily status report it'll turn red.

I don't think that is correct. Here are a couple of articles published in the past two days pointing out that ships are not reporting covid cases.
https://news.yahoo.com/27-cruise-ships-reported-covid-224400352.htmlhttps://www.sun-sentinel.com/busine...0210815-z6k3cwfgn5f6vc5p6o2t7r2z5e-story.html

 

[Sykes]

I don't think that is correct. Here are a couple of articles published in the past two days pointing out that ships are not reporting covid cases.

They're reporting cases to the CDC--the articles you posted even say that outright--but the CDC and the cruise lines don't publish case counts to the public.

"CDC has confirmed that the ships listed in the table below (except for “Gray”-designated ships) are operating under health and safety protocols that align with CDC’s standards for protecting passengers, crew, port personnel, and communities by mitigating the public health risks posed by COVID-19. Gray-designated ships may have their own COVID-19 health and safety protocols, which CDC has not reviewed or confirmed.

When a cruise ship operating under the CSO notifies CDC of suspected or confirmed cases of COVID-19 on board, CDC determines whether an investigation is needed, based on a predetermined investigation threshold. This investigation threshold gives CDC and the cruise industry the ability to work closely together to protect the health and safety of those on board and in communities."

 

[tvguy]

They're reporting cases to the CDC--the articles you posted even say that outright--but the CDC and the cruise lines don't publish case counts to the public.

So how can the public make informed decisions then?

 

[Sykes]

So how can the public make informed decisions then?

That's still pretty difficult--my only argument is that the color coding system will be accurate for what it claims to say because reporting to the CDC isn't really optional.

At the very least, you can rely on the fact that if the ship doing revenue sailings is green then no crew and fewer than 0.10% passengers have tested positive in the last 7 days. (What happens to the passengers after they get off the ship isn't considered, as far as I can tell.) The real ambiguity begins when a ship is yellow or orange because there's a lot of gray area between basically no cases (green) and red, which means sustained community transmission or "potential for COVID-19 cases to overwhelm on board medical center resources".

 

[tvguy]

That's still pretty difficult--my only argument is that the color coding system will be accurate for what it claims to say because reporting to the CDC isn't really optional.

At the very least, you can rely on the fact that if the ship doing revenue sailings is green then no crew and fewer than 0.10% passengers have tested positive in the last 7 days. (What happens to the passengers after they get off the ship isn't considered, as far as I can tell.) The real ambiguity begins when a ship is yellow or orange because there's a lot of gray area between basically no cases (green) and red, which means sustained community transmission or "potential for COVID-19 cases to overwhelm on board medical center resources".

I agree it is difficult. There is a cruise blogger who is whining about his cruises not offering everything they normally do, and that things are changing. And then there is of course the controversy on DCL over Mickey Waffles only being available in the MDR. LOL.

 

[lanejudy]

(What happens to the passengers after they get off the ship isn't considered, as far as I can tell.)

I think this is a key point. If folks want to know what's going on before their cruise, they can follow the CDC info and make a somewhat informed decision about cancelling vs cruising. But if they want to know after the cruise about potential exposure or spread that may have occurred onboard -- that isn't going to be tracked or reported.

 

[Shelly F - Ohio]

Problem is, cruise lines are not required to report covid cases. Not sure how helpful this is on the honor system.

Yes the cruise lines have to

Problem is, cruise lines are not required to report covid cases. Not sure how helpful this is on the honor system.

They are required to report to the CDC if anyone has the following symptoms.

Required Reporting
According to U.S. federal regulations, all deaths and ill persons displaying any of the following signs and symptoms must be reported to CDC:

• (A) Fever (has a measured temperature of 100.4 °F [38 °C] or greater; or feels warm to the touch; or gives a history of feeling feverish) accompanied by one or more of the following:
  • skin rash,
  • difficulty breathing or suspected or confirmed pneumonia,
  • persistent cough or cough with bloody sputum,
  • decreased consciousness or confusion of recent onset,
  • new unexplained bruising or bleeding (without previous injury),
  • persistent vomiting (other than sea sickness)
  • headache with stiff neck;
• OR
• (B) Fever that has persisted for more than 48 hours;
  OR
• (C) Acute gastroenteritis, which means either:
  • diarrhea, defined as three or more episodes of loose stools in a 24-hour period or what is above normal for the individual, or
  • vomiting accompanied by one or more of the following: one or more episodes of loose stools in a 24-hour period, abdominal cramps, headache, muscle aches, or fever (temperature of 100.4 °F [38 °C] or greater);
• OR
• (D) Symptoms or other indications of communicable disease, as the Director may announce through posting of a notice in the Federal Register (CDC will notify partners in applicable industries as well as posting on the CDC website)

Note: Cruise ships carrying 13 or more passengers should continue to report cases of acute gastroenteritis or diarrhea to CDC VSP.

 

[tvguy]

Yes the cruise lines have to


They are required to report to the CDC if anyone has the following symptoms.

Required Reporting
According to U.S. federal regulations, all deaths and ill persons displaying any of the following signs and symptoms must be reported to CDC:

• (A) Fever (has a measured temperature of 100.4 °F [38 °C] or greater; or feels warm to the touch; or gives a history of feeling feverish) accompanied by one or more of the following:
  • skin rash,
  • difficulty breathing or suspected or confirmed pneumonia,
  • persistent cough or cough with bloody sputum,
  • decreased consciousness or confusion of recent onset,
  • new unexplained bruising or bleeding (without previous injury),
  • persistent vomiting (other than sea sickness)
  • headache with stiff neck;
• OR
• (B) Fever that has persisted for more than 48 hours;
  OR
• (C) Acute gastroenteritis, which means either:
  • diarrhea, defined as three or more episodes of loose stools in a 24-hour period or what is above normal for the individual, or
  • vomiting accompanied by one or more of the following: one or more episodes of loose stools in a 24-hour period, abdominal cramps, headache, muscle aches, or fever (temperature of 100.4 °F [38 °C] or greater);
• OR
• (D) Symptoms or other indications of communicable disease, as the Director may announce through posting of a notice in the Federal Register (CDC will notify partners in applicable industries as well as posting on the CDC website)

Note: Cruise ships carrying 13 or more passengers should continue to report cases of acute gastroenteritis or diarrhea to CDC VSP.

Yes, INDIVIDUALS have to report not cruise lines..

 

[Cheburashka]

This might be helpful for those who are cruising to see if a ship has Covid on board. Just Google CDC quarantine cruise ship color status.

Ugh. I would actually not want to know this or even have to consider looking this up while I am cruising.