Caught my DS (9) Viewing Porn

Christine

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Now I have to handle this situation with my neighbor...

We just got internet cable about 2 weeks ago. I've been struggling to get all the firewalls, security, etc. up. Most of it is done. The only thing I had not done was the parental controls, but that hasn't ever been a big deal in the past. Never thought about it. Kids did AOL dial-up, I saw everything they did--they had never tried anything.

So yesterday, DS (9) goes next door to play with the neighbor's boy (10). They don't play together much, but occasionally they do. When they do, it lasts for about one hour because the boy next door is either physically aggressive with my son (but no one ever sees it) or he just does something so irritating my son cannot stand it and he leaves. The boy's mother is a wonderful woman and his sister is great too. In fact, the mother provided before/after care for my son last year as well as summer care. My DS now goes to another school so the day care relationship is over. Now we are just "next door neighbors." The husband--I don't like--BIG talker, wheeler/dealer, Mr. Slick, if you get my drift. Junior seems to be just like him.

Back to story. My son comes home. Later in the evening he asks if he can get on the computer and go on nick.com. He does so. While he's on the computer I take a 30 minute phone call with my mom. After it's over, I'm heading to the computer and telling my son "Hey, it's time to get off now, I need to check my e-mail." I go in there and he's trying to shut the whole thing down. I said "hey, why are you doing this, you just need to log of your name." Now XP is new to us so I didn't think this was strange. He gets up from the chair and watches me try to stop what he is doing. I do so and notice that he has something running and it is minimized. I maximize and :earseek: :earseek: :earseek: !!! You would not believe what I saw. He immediately starts crying. He then tries to tell me it's a pop-up. I go to his history and I see that he has put in 5 different porn websites. I sent him out of the room and looked at each one. My gosh, they were so graphic. So, we have a talk and he tells me that while he was next door earlier, the boy took him to their computer and showed him all the sites and told him that he could do this at home on his computer and showed him how. DS felt compelled to come home and do this. I'm pretty sure that this is the first time he's ever done something like this. He has only started using the computer alone in the last 2 weeks because he has been afraid of being alone in the basement. Also, on AOL we could not access the kind of stuff HE got into.

I'm just crushed that my son's first exposure to sexuality at to be sooooooo bad. I mean, I'm certainly no prude, but this was as bad as it gets. I've also had it with the neighbor's kid as this is about the bazillionth BAD influence he's had on my son. I know that all kids get up to no good and mine is no angel but the kind of stuff he says to my son--well it's usually the first place my son hears of these things.

My DH wants me to discuss this with his parents and let them know what happened. I'm kind of worried about doing that. Maybe they think their son "does no wrong" and will get offended that I might be accusing their son of something. I have to live next door to these people for a LONG time. On the other hand, they probably should know what their child is viewing?

I just don't know what to do. How would you guys handle it with the neighbors.

Oh, and the parental controls have definitely been configured!
 
No real words of advice here, just a :hug: Sounds like your DS is a great kid and was just curious, as kids are.

The neighbors kid on the other hand, sounds like he has some issues, and I have to ask, are his parents not even aware that he looks at this stuff online? Sounds like his mom might not be very computer savvy and might really just not know.

I'd have a long talk with her.
 
"maybe they think their son does now wrong" sounds like you feel that way the way you are throwing all the blame on the other kid. believe me it was a mutual adventure and its not the last one he will take, either with that kid or some other one. its probobly time for "the talk". and i dont think i would burn my bridges with the neighbors if i were you
 
Originally posted by dalt01
"maybe they think their son does no wrong" sounds like you feel that way the way you are throwing all the blame on the other kid. believe me it was a mutual adventure and its not the last one he will take, either with that kid or some other one. its probobly time for "the talk". and i dont think i would burn my bridges with the neighbors if i were you

I was kind of agreeing with dalt. I think I would work harder to try to discourage DS from playing with that kid, but I would think it over before talking to neighbor in any kind of accusitory manner. I would maybe approach it as "our boys are quite adventuresome..."

Oh yeah, it is time for the talk!
 

Kids are curious, they're going to look if youlet them. What I did was put my computer in the living room. I always thought that if it was in the busiest room in the house, one with no door to close off that that would deter most bad behaviour.
 
:hug: Hang in there. Isn't parenting fun?! :rolleyes:

Hmm, no advice really. I'm the kind of person who has to sit and absorb things before I say anything (Too much experience inserting my foot in my mouth):blush:

I'm glad you got up the parenting controls. Before you address the neighbors, you might want to have a little heart to heart with your DS. Not for a OMG, I can't believe you did this tirade - just let him know you love him, why the porn viewing & time with his "friend" concerns you, and answering any "questions" he has regarding sex. Hmmm...that came out as advice, didn't it? :rolleyes: I'm only trying to think how I would address it with my DS(11). Maybe you guys need a "time out" from your neighbors for awhile.
 
Definitely time for a long talk with your son. It doesn't matter how he found it, because he did decide to view it on his own time. You need to discuss the difference between what he saw and loving, mature relationships. He is obviously more aware of sexuality than you thought. Don't bring shame into it, it is curiosity treat it as such.

I would menton it to the neighbor mom, but I would say, "I am not sure how this all started, but seems the boys have discoverd a way to view porn on the web, just wanted to let you know." And then just let them deal with their own son. This doesn't place blame (ie, the other boy won't think he was ratted out) and you have at least done your part to alert the other parents, which I think is the responsible thing to do. I would steer very clear of blaming either boy, that will only cause hard feelings between you as neighbors and the boys.

This too shall pass, it is normal curiosity.
 
What I did was put my computer in the living room. I always thought that if it was in the busiest room in the house, one with no door to close off that that would deter most bad behaviour.
Ecellent advice. All homes with younger children should have web accessable PC's in a busy, family area of the house, IMHO.
 
<font color=navy>I had to do the same w/my own son. I have cybersitter on the 'puter, and also parental controls for AOL. The kids were exposed when a classmate had porn linked to his website (age 11).... his mother's comment was why did the school have to get involved with what someone does at home (except he was passing his website url to all the kids, and a teacher saw it, and saw the link)....

Anyways, I would also talk to the mom, without accusing the son, and let her know what the boys were up to... but, I would also watch the friendship between the boys...

oh... and my son's friend who had the bad links, was disliked by the teachers, etc.... he's "different", but I do not worry about his morals - he has changed for the better at age 16 -- good morals, etc., so don't write that boy off yet.
 
Originally posted by Microcell
I was kind of agreeing with dalt. I think I would work harder to try to discourage DS from playing with that kid, but I would think it over before talking to neighbor in any kind of accusitory manner. I would maybe approach it as "our boys are quite adventuresome..."

Oh yeah, it is time for the talk!

I am not in that situation yet. But if it were me I would probably talk to the neighbor, not to accuse, but to let them know what "our boys" were doing. So I agree w/ Microcell on that one. I personally would want to be told what my son was doing so I could take care of it right away. Some people don't want to know, but I think I would still say something out of courtesy.

As far as your son hanging out w/ their child. I would discourage it. I wouldn't "blame" that on the other child, but I would say something like, "When you 2 are together, you get into trouble, so I'm keeping you separated for a while until you can prove to me that you will behave better when you are with him." And even if it was not my son's doing, I would still hold him responsible for his actions to try to teach him how to take control of his own life and not be swept away by his peers. (Even though I know deep down that kids will invevitably get into this type of trouble around this age.) It's still a good time to teach him how to take responsiblity for his actions in a time when so few of us do.

So I wouldn't punish my son terribly, but I would have a talk w/ him and I would use this incident to teach him about responsiblity and about loving and mature relationships, and I would keep him away from the other child for a while. Good luck w/ whatever you decide. Parenting is tough!
 
Originally posted by poohandwendy
Definitely time for a long talk with your son. It doesn't matter how he found it, because he did decide to view it on his own time. You need to discuss the difference between what he saw and loving, mature relationships. He is obviously more aware of sexuality than you thought. Don't bring shame into it, it is curiosity treat it as such.

I would menton it to the neighbor mom, but I would say, "I am not sure how this all started, but seems the boys have discoverd a way to view porn on the web, just wanted to let you know." And then just let them deal with their own son. This doesn't place blame (ie, the other boy won't think he was ratted out) and you have at least done your part to alert the other parents, which I think is the responsible thing to do. I would steer very clear of blaming either boy, that will only cause hard feelings between you as neighbors and the boys.

This too shall pass, it is normal curiosity.

I agree very much w/ what poohandwendy said. Although I'd probably blame my boy a little bit for his actions. But in a nice way. ;)
 
we dealt with this a few years ago our sons were 2nd grade and 3rd grade...well a neighbors kids 5th grade and his brother 3rd grade came to our house...my SIL was babysitting....she heard giggling coming from the living room..walked in to check ..low and behold....porn....

Well, we spoke to the parents because they are lifelong friends of my DH's but not someone we socialize with and their household is alot more laxed then ours....anyhow...they still couldn't believe that there kids did anything wrong and must have been my boys...(yeah right by second graded and barely spell and my 3rd graded is so dyslexic he can barely read either) I didn't push it...just had a long talk with my boys....

Made it clear that those were adults site and that they could chose or not chose to look at those things when they were adults but at their age it was not appropriate and I wouldn't stand for it either in my house or somebody elses.... being curious is one thing but these websites can be way over the top of the Playboy of my day....
 
Um... What were those sites? I want to see how bad they are.

:teeth:
 
I also recommend cybersitter, it can be used to block all types of websites... and monitor all websites visited..

if you have norton antivirus you can go into
reports/activity log/web history/ you can check all web sites visited in the past and see if he's checked out porn sites before...
 
Originally posted by Elwood Blues
Um... What were those sites? I want to see how bad they are.

:teeth:

EB is a fine example that it is just normal curiosity (that some obviously never outgrow, LOL)...see there, that should reassure the OP...:p
 
Originally posted by poohandwendy
Definitely time for a long talk with your son. It doesn't matter how he found it, because he did decide to view it on his own time. You need to discuss the difference between what he saw and loving, mature relationships. He is obviously more aware of sexuality than you thought. Don't bring shame into it, it is curiosity treat it as such.

I would menton it to the neighbor mom, but I would say, "I am not sure how this all started, but seems the boys have discoverd a way to view porn on the web, just wanted to let you know." And then just let them deal with their own son. This doesn't place blame (ie, the other boy won't think he was ratted out) and you have at least done your part to alert the other parents, which I think is the responsible thing to do. I would steer very clear of blaming either boy, that will only cause hard feelings between you as neighbors and the boys.

This too shall pass, it is normal curiosity.

Well said! ::yes::

Good luck handling it, Christine.
 
Well, actually, last night when this all happened, I told my son that if he came clean with me right away, I would not punish him. And I did not. He pretty much told me the whole story over the time period of about an hour (then he proceeded to vomit he was so upset :o ). My son *tried* to place the blame on the boy next door--that he "makes" him do things. I know that he does at time; however, I told my son that when he came back to his own house HE made the choice to log on ALONE. I told my son that is where he went wrong in a big way. I told him that I realize that if the boy just pulls this stuff up in his home and my son happens to be there, that is one thing (he should leave), but he came home and did it on his own.

I also explained that even though the behavior was "bad", that being a boy and wanting to look at nude women was very normal. He admitted that he was so curious about it that he wanted to keep looking (uh-huhh--typical man). So, I think everything is okay here and I pretty sure he won't be trying it at home again. But this other boy. I still haven't called my neighbor. I'm just so nervous about it.

I think she knows exactly how her son is--she has made comment about all the trouble he gets into and what his piano teacher says to him, and how he's constantly disobeying. I don't think she'll be surprised. It's the husband I'm worried about. I also know she's not computer savvy so she probably has no idea that he's doing this. Somehow, I bet the dad does though.

Thanks so far for your advice!
 
Originally posted by Christine
Well, actually, last night when this all happened, I told my son that if he came clean with me right away, I would not punish him. And I did not. He pretty much told me the whole story over the time period of about an hour (then he proceeded to vomit he was so upset :o ). My son *tried* to place the blame on the boy next door--that he "makes" him do things. I know that he does at time; however, I told my son that when he came back to his own house HE made the choice to log on ALONE. I told my son that is where he went wrong in a big way. I told him that I realize that if the boy just pulls this stuff up in his home and my son happens to be there, that is one thing (he should leave), but he came home and did it on his own.

I also explained that even though the behavior was "bad", that being a boy and wanting to look at nude women was very normal. He admitted that he was so curious about it that he wanted to keep looking (uh-huhh--typical man). So, I think everything is okay here and I pretty sure he won't be trying it at home again. But this other boy. I still haven't called my neighbor. I'm just so nervous about it.

I think she knows exactly how her son is--she has made comment about all the trouble he gets into and what his piano teacher says to him, and how he's constantly disobeying. I don't think she'll be surprised. It's the husband I'm worried about. I also know she's not computer savvy so she probably has no idea that he's doing this. Somehow, I bet the dad does though.

Thanks so far for your advice!

Hopefully this will go well. Your neighbor might actually be glad to hear that you know how to install parental controls. This might be a great opportunity to help her out if she's not computer savvy. Good luck!
 
Disney Enthusiast said exactly what I was going to. You seem to be doing a great job! Hang in there!
 












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