Casey Anthony TRIAL Thread #4

[STLDisney_Freak]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...-anthony-suicd20110630,0,6804301.story?page=1

Cynthia Marie,

As you get this letter, this should be no surprise that I have decided to leave the earth, because I need to be with Caylee Marie.

I cannot keep going because it should be me that is gone from this earth, not her. I have lived many years, I am satisfied with my decision because I have never been the man you, Lee, Casey & especially Caylee Marie deserved.

I have never been the man any of you could count on. I have always let each of you down in more ways than I can remember. I do not feel sorry for myself, I am just sorry I burden all of you the way I have.

My loss of life is meaningless.

Cynthia Marie, you have always worked the hardest, given the most to me, and I have never "Thanked you." 28+ years ago, you corrected me, a man who has now found his identity in life. What I mean is, you always challenged me the right way and I always could never live up to your expectations. You have always been smarter, more knowledgeable & thought things through & I love you for that.

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I cannot be strong anymore. Caylee Marie, our grand-daughter, I miss her. I miss her so much. I know you do too.

You were always the one that provided for her. What did I provide?

I blame myself for her being gone! You know for months, as a matter of fact for a year or so I brought stuff up, only to be told not to be negative.

Caylee Marie, I miss her. I miss her. I want my family back.

I sit here, falling apart, because I should have done more.

She was so close to home, why was she there? Who placed here there? Why is she gone? Why?

For months, you & I, especially you always questioned, why?

I want this to go away for Casey. What happened? Why could she not come to us? Especially you, why not Lee?

Who is involved with this stuff Caylee?

I am going Krazy because I want to

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Go after these people Casey hung with prior to Caylee being gone.

That is why I got that gun. I wanted to scare these people. You know, they know more than they have stated, you cannot sugar coat, kid glove these people. They need hard knocks to get info from.


Sure that will not bring Caylee Marie back, but was Casey threatened? You know, Casey does not deserve to be where she is.

I miss her, I miss her so much. I am worried for her. Her personal safety is always on my mind.

I try to deal with so-so much, as I do you also.

I have never wanted to my family for sorrow in any way. I realize families have ups & downs but we have suffered our share & then some.

Cynthia Marie, you have always deserved more, and with me being gone, you will. I have always brought you down. You know that. You are better off. Lee will be there for you. Mallory is such a great woman. I see how you are with her. She is a keeper. Future

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daughter-in-law. I smile when I say her name. Mallory, please take care of yourself, Lee & Cindy. Someday you will be a great wife to Lee, and a fantastic mom. Cindy is a great "Grammy" and will love you forever.

Getting back to why I cannot live anymore: I cannot function knowing our granddaughter is gone. Caylee Marie never had a chance to grow. I wanted to walk her to school (the 1st day). I wanted to help her in so many ways….I could go on & on.

I sit here empty inside for her. For you, for us. Jose keeps calling.

Yes, you deserve more & you will have freedom to enjoy what you deserve.

I have taken what meds was given to me with alcohol & I am ready to give up. As I can tell by my writing and thinking, I am getting very stupid. Wow, what a word STUPID. Yes, I am. Again, I do not feel sorry for myself(…unintelligible) I am STUPID. I cannot deal with stuff anymore.

ANOTHER PAGE:

The loss of Caylee Marie. The loss of Casey. The loss of us, Cynthia Marie, the meds, I am ready.

Saying good bye, please understand it is for the best. I do not deserve life anymore. Anymore us.

You are the best, you always have been. I am sorry for all that I have done to us.

You know I never got to say goodbye. I am at this place and all is getting foggy & my writing is all over the place.

I love you, I love you, I hope you get to see Casey soon. All the people we met, wow, the writing is getting weird, I love you, I am sorry – I will take care of Caylee – once I get to God "hopefully"

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I want to hold her again, I miss her, I will always love us, I am sorry Cynthia Marie, I called my mom today, ….(unintelligible) I am so tired, at least I shaved today, wow – I'm tripping out, I am sorry,

I love you – Cynthia Marie

Caylee Here I come

Lee, I am sorry

Casey –
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[Promomx2]

Just wanted tell Kurby the pictures are beautiful!! So glad you and Nicole and doing well. It won't be long before everyone will be home and you'll be elbow deep in girly things. I so miss having a little baby girl around to buy pink, frilly, girly dresses for.

 

[Kurby]

baez had 3 years to come out with 1 plausible reason - just 1 - that's all he needed and he couldn't do it.

IF he had stuck to accidental drowning and shown some kind of evidence to it - kc did everything but she was under such shock, she acted alone and tried to cover it up because her brain just shut down - who knows whatever.

but if he had stuck to 1 theory not 50 and just shown a little something he would have gotten reasonable doubt for death but still she would have been convicted on maybe 2nd degree

but all he ended up doing was wasting everyones time and energy AND money to prove what a bad lawyer he really is because he didn't prove one single thing he said in opening statements - not 1 - not even a 1/4 of one

if the jury believed any of that crap they are nuts.

 

[desamnik]

when Krystal said George said "......about an accident" that it couldn't be used as it was "hearsay". Wasn't it hearsay? When someone says that someone else said "blah blah blah". I didn't think that could be used incourt.

 

[Samba]

I don't know all about it, but I have noticed in this trial that the rules about hearsay are complicated. There are instances when it is allowed.

 

[irishbosoxfan]

when Krystal said George said "......about an accident" that it couldn't be used as it was "hearsay". Wasn't it hearsay? When someone says that someone else said "blah blah blah". I didn't think that could be used incourt.

See that was my thinking also AND it's why they didn't allow Jesse to testify.

So I have no clue how she got to be there.

 

[Samba]

oooh, on NG Jean C. says the computer work records show log on and log off, emails sent, etc showing she was at work and doing work. So much for the chloroform searches at home. Have to admit I was upset when she did that.

 

[irishbosoxfan]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...-anthony-suicd20110630,0,6804301.story?page=1

Cynthia Marie,

As you get this letter, this should be no surprise that I have decided to leave the earth, because I need to be with Caylee Marie.

I cannot keep going because it should be me that is gone from this earth, not her. I have lived many years, I am satisfied with my decision because I have never been the man you, Lee, Casey & especially Caylee Marie deserved.

I have never been the man any of you could count on. I have always let each of you down in more ways than I can remember. I do not feel sorry for myself, I am just sorry I burden all of you the way I have.

My loss of life is meaningless.

Cynthia Marie, you have always worked the hardest, given the most to me, and I have never "Thanked you." 28+ years ago, you corrected me, a man who has now found his identity in life. What I mean is, you always challenged me the right way and I always could never live up to your expectations. You have always been smarter, more knowledgeable & thought things through & I love you for that.

ANOTHER PAGE:

I cannot be strong anymore. Caylee Marie, our grand-daughter, I miss her. I miss her so much. I know you do too.

You were always the one that provided for her. What did I provide?

I blame myself for her being gone! You know for months, as a matter of fact for a year or so I brought stuff up, only to be told not to be negative.

Caylee Marie, I miss her. I miss her. I want my family back.

I sit here, falling apart, because I should have done more.

She was so close to home, why was she there? Who placed here there? Why is she gone? Why?

For months, you & I, especially you always questioned, why?

I want this to go away for Casey. What happened? Why could she not come to us? Especially you, why not Lee?

Who is involved with this stuff Caylee?

I am going Krazy because I want to

ANOTHER PAGE:


Go after these people Casey hung with prior to Caylee being gone.

That is why I got that gun. I wanted to scare these people. You know, they know more than they have stated, you cannot sugar coat, kid glove these people. They need hard knocks to get info from.


Sure that will not bring Caylee Marie back, but was Casey threatened? You know, Casey does not deserve to be where she is.

I miss her, I miss her so much. I am worried for her. Her personal safety is always on my mind.

I try to deal with so-so much, as I do you also.

I have never wanted to my family for sorrow in any way. I realize families have ups & downs but we have suffered our share & then some.

Cynthia Marie, you have always deserved more, and with me being gone, you will. I have always brought you down. You know that. You are better off. Lee will be there for you. Mallory is such a great woman. I see how you are with her. She is a keeper. Future

NEXT PAGE:

daughter-in-law. I smile when I say her name. Mallory, please take care of yourself, Lee & Cindy. Someday you will be a great wife to Lee, and a fantastic mom. Cindy is a great "Grammy" and will love you forever.

Getting back to why I cannot live anymore: I cannot function knowing our granddaughter is gone. Caylee Marie never had a chance to grow. I wanted to walk her to school (the 1st day). I wanted to help her in so many ways….I could go on & on.

I sit here empty inside for her. For you, for us. Jose keeps calling.

Yes, you deserve more & you will have freedom to enjoy what you deserve.

I have taken what meds was given to me with alcohol & I am ready to give up. As I can tell by my writing and thinking, I am getting very stupid. Wow, what a word STUPID. Yes, I am. Again, I do not feel sorry for myself(…unintelligible) I am STUPID. I cannot deal with stuff anymore.

ANOTHER PAGE:

The loss of Caylee Marie. The loss of Casey. The loss of us, Cynthia Marie, the meds, I am ready.

Saying good bye, please understand it is for the best. I do not deserve life anymore. Anymore us.

You are the best, you always have been. I am sorry for all that I have done to us.

You know I never got to say goodbye. I am at this place and all is getting foggy & my writing is all over the place.

I love you, I love you, I hope you get to see Casey soon. All the people we met, wow, the writing is getting weird, I love you, I am sorry – I will take care of Caylee – once I get to God "hopefully"

Another page

I want to hold her again, I miss her, I will always love us, I am sorry Cynthia Marie, I called my mom today, ….(unintelligible) I am so tired, at least I shaved today, wow – I'm tripping out, I am sorry,

I love you – Cynthia Marie

Caylee Here I come

Lee, I am sorry

Casey –
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From what I know of ppl who commit/attempt to commit suicide they always get everything off their chest.

There's no release of burden in his letter. It's all sadness and downing on himself.

JB was nuts for thinking this letter was going to win his case for him

 

[focusondisney]

Can't believe we're still on part 4! Guess everybody had lots of other stuff to do after the last few days of intense trial watching.


Thanks for sharing the pictures Kurby. Looks like Nicole is getting better every hour.

 

[MaryAnnDVC]

From what I know of ppl who commit/attempt to commit suicide they always get everything off their chest.

There's no release of burden in his letter. It's all sadness and downing on himself.

JB was nuts for thinking this letter was going to win his case for him

I'm pretty sure there's more to that letter. It may not have all been transcribed yet.

 

[Samba]

I don't think JG didn't get to testify just because it was hearsay. I think the length of time had something to do with it?

http://www.perno.com/law/docs/Hearsay.htm

 

[reelmom]

See that was my thinking also AND it's why they didn't allow Jesse to testify.

So I have no clue how she got to be there.

Since they knew Casey wasn't going to testify, wouldn't Jesse's testimony be hearsay since they couldn't ask Casey if it was true? I'm not sure how it works.

 

[Halloweenqueen]

I wouldn't be surprised if we get a verdict on Saturday.

 

[joviroxx]

Geez! I left work at 4:30 and hadnt had a chance to check this thread until now! SO MUCH TO COMMENT ON!

First, Kurby, the pics are precious. Congratulations to you and your family. What a perfect addition Nicole makes! Thanks for posting them.

After 3 years it feels surreal that its finally coming to an end and we are finally going to see a resolution. Its about time little Caylee gets her justice. Although I can't believe that she will be resting in peace knowing that life for her family is about to change once again and drastically. No matter what the verdict, I have no idea how this family will find any kind of peace.

I realize that this family is a bunch of liars BUT, they (sans Casey) are not murderers. They might be secretive, loony and dysfunctional and strangely driven but Casey, to me, is evil personified. It goes beyond sociopath, its just a pure self-indulgent, sinister and diabolical being. Her family is at least emotional, she is just devoid of any kind of humanity.

Im just so friggin anxious to see how this all turns out.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Plus, KC is a sociopath. Someone on the THs just mentioned how the disconnected sociopath is likely to view a young child as a pet. Yes, they would!

Interesting that was said. Because if she were able to treat Caylee like a pet (as opposed to people treating pets like their kids)...it would stand to reason that she was able to play with and enjoy Caylee in some moments and then shut her off as she often did by leaving her in Cindy's care. There are doting grandparents and then there is George and Cindy who gave the world for their grand child so that she would want for nothing from her own mother.

Very easy form Casey to turn on/turn off..though very sad.


What I don't get is why disposing like a pet crossed her mind as appropriate. Had she never attended a funeral for a human in her life?

My first funeral that I remember was about when I was 12/13. N
From that point forward, there is no question of how humans are treated upon death. I am sure I had an idea prior to that...but it was just made a personal experience at that point.

I am not sure if I make sense...but I cannot fathom how Casey would have rationalized this as appropriate.

 

[Samba]

JB didn't want the suicide note in nor did he think it would help his case. But, once again, he slipped up and opened the door. The state then drove that Mac truck through and was able to get the note admitted as evidence. JBP warned HoseA about doing things that would allow such!

 

[joviroxx]

I am not sure if I make sense...but I cannot fathom how Casey would have rationalized this as appropriate.

Casey rationalized some weird things as appropriate. She obviously has a completely different set of standards.

 

[joviroxx]

JB didn't want the suicide note in nor did he think it would help his case. But, once again, he slipped up and opened the door. The state then drove that Mac truck through and was able to get the note admitted as evidence. JBP warned HoseA about doing things that would allow such!

 

[MaryAnnDVC]

THREAD NUMBER 5

http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?p=41677669#post41677669

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Since they knew Casey wasn't going to testify, wouldn't Jesse's testimony be hearsay since they couldn't ask Casey if it was true? I'm not sure how it works.

I don't know the legal end of it, but it was comPletely irrelevent.

If folks remember, Tony's testimony about a big secret was proffered. The secret related to Lee's alleged attempt at touching ICA. Ended up that it was a failed attempt and it was not admissible. Why JB thought Jesse's should be allowed, I am not sure. But it was no different and while they do let hearsay in about the defendent, there are rules to this. But I think it wasn't permitted because it had no correlation with their open. (and prior abuse is not a defense for murder nor is anything Lee did proof that George did anything to her).