Cases rising or dropping by you?

[mjkacmom]

Yep, but these kids never left. I worked in property management here for years and our leases actually ran with the school calendar for certain places but not all. UGA is on a quarter system, sorta. There is a short summer term that is not happening this year, they plan on opening in the fall so leases for then don't start until mid-August.

All of my college kids had one year leases, some kids just stayed in the same rentals for years.

 

[jlwhitney]

That makes sense, but 5311 positive new cases over the last four days seems like a lot to me even with increased testing. It still means cases are rising unlike other places where they are declining with more testing. (CT, MA, RI) for example.

Some of the private lab test are easily 2-3 weeks old also, sometimes less.

 

[LuvOrlando]

What the heck are you talking about? The kids you described are not the ones I know. Are you just looking for a way to pin any kind of surge on young people?

OK so explain the news and show me

 

[leebee]

NH has increased testing, so cases are still increasing, but the percent of positive tests has decreased significantly. We have started reopening, but the process is painfully slow because our neighbor state has significantly more cases, and its residents have been proving that they are having difficulty with the "stay home" part of the stay at home order.

I hear you... my sister has a shop in Portsmouth. People from the state to the south have been the majority of her customers. I get it... Mass is taking the BEST approach possible, given the circumstances, but it's hard on their residents when NH and ME have loosened restrictions. Unfortunately them coming north makes it hard on NH and southern ME (especially as spending isn't up, just "visiting")

 

[Southernmiss]

Pointing out that once the bars open and young people are let loose things are going to absolutely explode.

It's not the Gen Z in my area who ran to the local casinos when they opened Memorial Day weekend. Casinos in our state took in $5 million more dollars on Memorial Day weekend than the same weekend in 2019.

There better be a concerted effort to get masks mainstream and "COOL" before Gen Z turns up or the second wave will be here by July & there will be no putting that genie back in the bottle. THIS is what I fear, they hook up and move around without worry.

Those bucking wearing masks here are 50 plus year old men who say the government can't tell them what to do.


They were born into 9/11, lived through trainings for activeshooters in elementary school, they had phones since kindergarten to call 911,

No phones in my house until 7th grade

been through all sorts of destabilizing educational initiatives that failed, grew up without housing & financial stability due to the 2008 crisis, then have been forced to worry about medical benefits and student loans - NOW these kids lost time over a health crisis that they were told wasn't a "them" problem it's a "boomer problem" which has made them resentful and now there is another "us v them" (justified) social movement that is encouraging mass groupings. How exactly does anyone think this is going to work out when no-one is on the same page about best practices?

I definitely don't see a 'us vs them' problem. I see compassion for family and friends and protection for grandparents and others and an understanding that all lives are important whether illness or otherwise.

I see mask wearing much more by younger generations than older and more of a willingness to conform and respect those in authority.

 

[jlwhitney]

Raising my hand as someone who lives in a hot spot, it does spread quickly. We had over 17,000 in our county, under 800,000 residents, over 1,600 deaths, and we were one of the first ones shut down with the strictest restrictions.

Then explain why is hasn't spread like crazy in Florida like they thought, or from every other event they were convinced it would.

 

[Southernmiss]

All of my college kids had one year leases, some kids just stayed in the same rentals for years.

Yep.

 

[jlwhitney]

I definitely don't see a 'us vs them' problem. I see compassion for family and friends and protection for grandparents and others and an understanding that all lives are important whether illness or otherwise.

I see mask wearing much more by younger generations than older and more of a willingness to conform and respect those in authority.

The mask wearing with the younger isn't because of respect to authority,but can't go there to why.

 

[LuvOrlando]

We'll see, I think they are being accommodating because parents are around but once they are on their own they will be tossed out the window because they aren't worried, they aren't at risk or should I say they don't see it as a risk.

 

[wenrob]

OK so explain the news and show me

Those articles are from the very beginning when it wasn’t really clear to anyone just how bad this could be. You’re pointing to things that are months old. I’m not sure what you want me to show you. You’re making predictions on things that haven’t happened yet. What I’m seeing as things are opening up is people of ALL ages and generations heading out and doing what they’re allowed to do.

 

[wombat_5606]

Then explain why is hasn't spread like crazy in Florida like they thought, or from every other event they were convinced it would.

If you look at the https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/florida, you can see for the last week, the number of people tested has decreased and the number of infections have increased.

This is what https://covidactnow.org/us/fl/?s=42244 says about the states ability to find out the results from outbreaks.

Florida is likely able to trace 30% of new COVID infections in 48 hours. At these lower levels of tracing, it is unlikely Florida will be able to successfully identify and isolate sources of disease spread fast enough to prevent new outbreaks.

Unfortunately, I think most states are in this same situation, so I think most everyone isn't getting a full picture.

 

[jlwhitney]

If you look at the https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america/florida, you can see for the last week, the number of people tested has decreased and the number of infections have increased.

This is what https://covidactnow.org/us/fl/?s=42244 says about the states ability to find out the results from outbreaks.

Florida is likely able to trace 30% of new COVID infections in 48 hours. At these lower levels of tracing, it is unlikely Florida will be able to successfully identify and isolate sources of disease spread fast enough to prevent new outbreaks.

Unfortunately, I think most states are in this same situation, so I think most everyone isn't getting a full picture.

Our rate of of positive test results is still decreasing at the same time. We tested less last weekend because of the protests, they shut down some of the drive through and walk up due to safety.

 

[wombat_5606]

Our rate of of positive test results is still decreasing at the same time. We tested less last weekend because of the protests, they shut down some of the drive through and walk up due to safety.

That makes sense.

How do you reconcile the fact the Florida only reports their test results from the state labs and the fact that 90% of the tests are being run by private labs?

 

[DisneyJamieCA]

We'll see, I think they are being accommodating because parents are around but once they are on their own they will be tossed out the window because they aren't worried, they aren't at risk or should I say they don't see it as a risk.

I don’t know what what you’re seeing where you live, but I really wish you stop making assumptions about/talking for an entire generation. What you keep sayingisn’t true across the board.

Where I live, it’s mostly middle age who throw their nose up at the rules. But I’m not about to say all Gen Xs are the problems.

With all of your comments, I’m beginning to feel like you want there to be another spike, so you can blame them.

What it actually comes down to are there are those, of ALL ages who will follow the rules and those of ALL ages where they won’t. In the end, if there is another spike, we all, as a collective, will be responsible for it. Not one single age group.

 

[DisneyJamieCA]

That makes sense.

How do you reconcile the fact the Florida only reports their test results from the state labs and the fact that 90% of the tests are being run by private labs?

I’m not from FL, so don’t really have a dog in this fight, but that isn’t what the article said. It said they’re only reporting people WAITING for test results from public labs. They never said anything about counting actual positives. And actually something you pulled from an article in an earlier post says that the state is running about 2 weeks behind in counting positives from private labs.

I don’t know if FL is doing it right or wrong, but if you’re going to criticize, make sure you have the info correct.

 

[amylevan]

I don’t know what what you’re seeing where you live, but I really wish you stop making assumptions about/talking for an entire generation. What you keep sayingisn’t true across the board.

Where I live, it’s mostly middle age who throw their nose up at the rules. But I’m not about to say all Gen Xs are the problems.

With all of your comments, I’m beginning to feel like you want there to be another spike, so you can blame them.

What it actually comes down to are there are those, of ALL ages who will follow the rules and those of ALL ages where they won’t. In the end, if there is another spike, we all, as a collective, will be responsible for it. Not one single age group.

It's definitely not a generation thing. My parents are as far from Gen Z as you can get and they and their friends have plans to eat out this week, every. single. night. Restaurants JUST opened in our state and are supposed to be seated with family only.

My mom's rationale is basically that she doesn't know how many more good years they have left and she doesn't want to waste them waiting for a vaccine that may or may not get here.

 

[wombat_5606]

I’m not from FL, so don’t really have a dog in this fight, but that isn’t what the article said. It said they’re only reporting people WAITING for test results from public labs. They never said anything about counting actual positives. And actually something you pulled from an article in an earlier post says that the state is running about 2 weeks behind in counting positives from private labs.

I don’t know if FL is doing it right or wrong, but if you’re going to criticize, make sure you have the info correct.

Sorry, I misspoke, but I still think it can skew the percentages if a majority of their tests aren't reported in a timely fashion.

 

[DisneyJamieCA]

It's definitely not a generation thing. My parents are as far from Gen Z as you can get and they and their friends have plans to eat out this week, every. single. night. Restaurants JUST opened in our state and are supposed to be seated with family only.

My mom's rationale is basically that she doesn't know how many more good years they have left and she doesn't want to waste them waiting for a vaccine that may or may not get here.

I have heard a lot of our older generations say that. My parents were very cautious at the beginning. Still are. But are now coming to the realization that they don’t want whatever years they have left being shut in their house, away from loved ones, friends, travel. They want these years to count. And I get that.

 

[mjkacmom]

Then explain why is hasn't spread like crazy in Florida like they thought, or from every other event they were convinced it would.

I don’t know, we need to find out. Social isolation helped tremendously here (although we still have new cases. NYC had a day with no deaths on June 5th, first time since March.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

My mom's rationale is basically that she doesn't know how many more good years they have left and she doesn't want to waste them waiting for a vaccine that may or may not get here.

We went to Menards yesterday where masks are required to enter the store. This location has the paper ones for free just go and grab one if you don't have your own mask.

A woman who looked to be in her 70s in the entrance said quite loudly "this is BS" (she used the actual word). As soon as she got through the turnstile she took off her mask (we saw her checking out and at the actual register her mask was on but in line it was not). I think some people may not see the point of the masks (one woman was on her phone, out in the garden area--outdoor but still sealed up portion where you get tools, edging, lawn decor stuff--with her mask down under her chin) or they aren't wearing them correctly (saw 2 people with it under their nose) but to date that's been the most outright and very vocal defiant behavior I have seen in person that is.