Cars 2 is not very good at all!

alweg

Earning My Ears
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I love Pixar and, despite the commercials for Cars 2 lowering my expectations, I still held out hope that Pixar would come through with another great film.

IMO it did not, for the following reasons (SPOILERS below):

Yet another Hollywood production with a green agenda. In this case, oil is bad. Like many other people, I want my electric car, too, but let's stop with the demonizing.

Poorly constructed story. Ask anyone under 10 to explain it to you. They won't be able to. And for anyone who says it's only a cartoon that's supposed to just hold the kids attention, and they don't need to "get" the story, what about all those years we've been praising Pixar's storytelling ability? And there were 20 kids in my theater that only watched about 25 minutes of the movie before they were just doing their own thing (loudly).

Was it my imagination, or did the cars move differently this time? In the original Cars, I recall they moved like real cars. Of course their mouths and faces didn't, but they drove around like real cars. In Cars 2, they moved like cartoon characters, breaking the laws of physics every chance they got. Only in the race scenes did they move credibly. Off the racetrack they moved like Wile E. Coyote.

While I didn't mind all the missles and guns, even they didn't add any cool fun to the action.

Too much Mater. In Cars he was comic relief. In Cars 2 there was no comic relief.

It's the first Pixar film that felt "flat" to me. Both with story and animation. Ok. I didn't see it in 3D, but I didn't see any earlier Pixar film in 3D either. Radiator Springs was lifeless. Tokyo was soulless and manic. Only when they got to Paris, the Italian Riviera, and London, did the animation begin to reach usual Pixar standards. I even thought London was the most photo-realistic scenic design Pixar has ever accomplished, but it was with only a few minutes left in the film, and too late to save it.

Clearly a product plug for upcoming Planes DVDs.

A real letdown...
 
Totally disagree, thought it was very good. My 2.5 year old watched the whole thing and didnt move and kept his 3d glasses on. My 1 year old watched most of it, but did not fall asleep.

Except for Wall-E which i refuse to watch, it seems to be the only pixar movie that does not have the "i'm lost, how do i get home" theme. I think its great they finally did a different theme.

I really enjoyed the movie, thought it was very entertaining.

I will agree on one point though.... WAY too much Mater
 
I agree Cars 2 worst Pixar movie. I love Disney and Pixar but this is not their best. I didn't like the free Allstate plug by Mater. I feel the Toy Story short is better than the whole Cars 2 movie. I hope Pixar does better with Monsters prequel in 2013.
 
I thought the movie was very well done and entertaining the whole time...can't figure out why people hate it. :confused3
 

I never got the whole Cars movie in the first place, It's just not for me.
 
I couldn't disagree more. I thought it was adorable and action packed. As far as the anti-oil agenda, I didn't get that at all.
 
First, I haven't seen the film yet. But, I'm getting tired of people complaining about it having a "green agenda" - like that's a bad thing. This is a very important issue that needs to be talked about and the producers have every right to their opinion, just as the climate change deniers have a right to theirs. I happen to agree with what I've heard about the film with respect to oil companies. I'm glad that Pixar is brave enough to tackle such issues.:thumbsup2
 
I thought the movie was very well done and entertaining the whole time...can't figure out why people hate it. :confused3

probably because they're fresh outta koolaid...


it was pretty bad...on the other hand...i didn't think the pirates movie was that bad...popcorny but entertaining
 
probably because they're fresh outta koolaid...


it was pretty bad...on the other hand...i didn't think the pirates movie was that bad...popcorny but entertaining

Pirates was okay.. it helped that Penelope Cruz was in it
 
First, I haven't seen the film yet. But, I'm getting tired of people complaining about it having a "green agenda" - like that's a bad thing. This is a very important issue that needs to be talked about and the producers have every right to their opinion, just as the climate change deniers have a right to theirs. I happen to agree with what I've heard about the film with respect to oil companies. I'm glad that Pixar is brave enough to tackle such issues.:thumbsup2


i agree...nobody else wants to hear it because they are lazy.

the internal combustion engine is BAD...we've know for quite sometime now...but we're all too lazy and spoiled to accept this.

but the truth is the truth....there are not two sides to every issue like our whacked out cable stations try to tell us.

sometimes it is black and white...not grey.

and this is about conservation and ecological responsibility...not politics. Politics is nothing more that a cover for the exchange of money for power...this issue has no room for money or power. If you don't believe it, you might just see it with your own eyes.

as far as climate change deniers...i disagree there. how many floods, tornados, cat 5 canes, F5 tornados, and states on fire do we need to see before the sauce soaks in?

sadly...too much i fear
 
LockedOutLogic I couldn't have said it any better. Environmental issues shouldn't be political. I have a brother who is a conservative Republican who will not argue with me about the environment any more. He now has 2 little girls and worries about what the world is going to be like when they grow up. Green issues are so big that we should all set aside our ideologies and work together to help the planet. Sorry, I didn't mean to sound like a commercial.:)
 
I must say, after watching the first Cars more than 1000 times, probably not but I have a 3 year old :), it was very refreshing to see these characters in a different movie. :rotfl:
 
The environment is bad for business...not only for us...but in particular for two developing countries that contain about 1/3rd of the world's population.

that is the bottomline...as longs as it is money that rules - and that is the only thing that matters. There will not be a change of course...merely lip service.
 
Did you expect it to be? Pixar is dead they haven't made a good film since the merged withDisney!

Toy Story
Bugs Life
Walle
MI
Nemo
Cars 1
Incredibles

All written before Disney control!

Now they just make sequels!
 
I love Pixar and, despite the commercials for Cars 2 lowering my expectations, I still held out hope that Pixar would come through with another great film.

IMO it did not, for the following reasons (SPOILERS below):

Yet another Hollywood production with a green agenda. In this case, oil is bad. Like many other people, I want my electric car, too, but let's stop with the demonizing.

Poorly constructed story. Ask anyone under 10 to explain it to you. They won't be able to. And for anyone who says it's only a cartoon that's supposed to just hold the kids attention, and they don't need to "get" the story, what about all those years we've been praising Pixar's storytelling ability? And there were 20 kids in my theater that only watched about 25 minutes of the movie before they were just doing their own thing (loudly).

Was it my imagination, or did the cars move differently this time? In the original Cars, I recall they moved like real cars. Of course their mouths and faces didn't, but they drove around like real cars. In Cars 2, they moved like cartoon characters, breaking the laws of physics every chance they got. Only in the race scenes did they move credibly. Off the racetrack they moved like Wile E. Coyote.

While I didn't mind all the missles and guns, even they didn't add any cool fun to the action.

Too much Mater. In Cars he was comic relief. In Cars 2 there was no comic relief.

It's the first Pixar film that felt "flat" to me. Both with story and animation. Ok. I didn't see it in 3D, but I didn't see any earlier Pixar film in 3D either. Radiator Springs was lifeless. Tokyo was soulless and manic. Only when they got to Paris, the Italian Riviera, and London, did the animation begin to reach usual Pixar standards. I even thought London was the most photo-realistic scenic design Pixar has ever accomplished, but it was with only a few minutes left in the film, and too late to save it.

Clearly a product plug for upcoming Planes DVDs.

A real letdown...



Can't say I disagree with any of the above.

But...my son loved it and that's what 's important (to me, at least).
 
Took my 8 yr old nephew and he loved it. I thought it was cute but if I didn't have a child with me I would of rented it. I enjoyed some of maters one liners but he was in it too much.
 
Every movie has an agenda or a message. Hollywood is pretty much slanted in one direction . If you like to watch movies you just have to deal with it. The people that can't pick out what the agenda is our the ones I worry about.
 
I thought it was a good movie. It was not suppose to be like the first one. They were doing there version of a spy movie. But being Pixar, they wanted to do it different and the others out there. Using humans would make it too close to the Incredibles, and the they had actually already come up with the character of Finn McMissle. He was written for the first Cars movie and was suppose to be on a TV that McQueen watched, that was the reasons for the flying car with missles dreams he had. As for the plot it was a mix of a James Bond movie and the old accidential spy story that has been used by everyone from the Flintstones to the movie Who's the Man.

As for Pixar only doing sequals, that is all of Hollywood, not just Disney. Look at their competion, another Ice Age movie in December, Puss in Boots (another Shreik movie), a third Chipmucks movie. And the summer blockbusters right now are either sequals like Transformers and Harry Potter, or already established characters such as Thor and Green Lantern. With the economy like it is, the studios do not want to spend the money to take a chance on something that isn't a sure thing. The only real block buster in the last few years was Avatar, and that was helped by the fact that there hasn't been anything new and different.
 
The only real block buster in the last few years was Avatar, and that was helped by the fact that there hasn't been anything new and different.

Even Avatar is not a new story line. In short, there really is no true "new story" on the market, there are only so many high level stories that exist, from there you take varying degrees of subplots, scenes, characters, etc to develop a movie.

I personally like Cars 2, I loved the Japan scenes and wished they actually spent more time in each city, developing the city as a destination for kids to see and want to go to (help kids with cultural differences).

As for the "green" bit, Pixar is a very "Green" company, no different then Google, Apple, etc. They are trying to push a concept and they have every right to do so with their own money (and it's something that shouldn't be ignored IMO). I also felt they did the push in a creative and fun way, making a story out of it with a subplot of the "lemons".
 
Did you expect it to be? Pixar is dead they haven't made a good film since the merged withDisney!

Toy Story
Bugs Life
Walle
MI
Nemo
Cars 1
Incredibles

All written before Disney control!

Now they just make sequels!
So when was ratatouille and up written? And even wall e I know was an idea before Disney but not written before them. Plus prep and landing was after Disney as well. Wether you think they are good or not is your own opinion but loved them all and if you look at awards, revenue, merchandise, etc. I would say majority of viewers thought they were good as well.

Even with the sequels I would have to say they have all been very good. If you look at most sequels that come out they tend to suck and die off but so far all Pixar ones have been huge successes. With cars2 I would actually argue that is pretty original in itself. A true sequel would have been to follow the main character again but this really focuses on a different character and story than the original. It is almost more of a spinoff that is not so much a racing movie but more a spy movie.
 


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