Carry-On Banned Items

[bicker]

I disagree. Carrying a laptop apart from the laptop bag is a requirement imposed by TSA. Carrying a handbag apart from your one, allowed carry-on is a violation of a requirement. Seems like exact opposites, not the same at all.

 

[ducklite]

I disagree. Carrying a laptop apart from the laptop bag is a requirement imposed by TSA. Carrying a handbag apart from your one, allowed carry-on is a violation of a requirement. Seems like exact opposites, not the same at all.

Perhaps when going through the security line, but not onto the plane--which is where I've seen it done. And what about those fanny packs? If I tied the straps from my handbag to my belt does it suddenly no longer become a carry-on?

I am "legal" as I board the plane. I've never heard that you have to have everything stuffed away into the two alloted items to pass the first security person only to have to pull it all apart in fifteen feet to go through the x-ray machine. This was a man who had a little authority and was playing God. That's a person who does not belong in that position.

Anne

 

[salmoneous]

EDIT: The rule limiting passangers to one carry-on bag and one personal bag is a TSA rule.

 

[jodifla]

EDIT: The rule limiting passangers to one carry-on bag and one personal bag is a TSA rule.

We often have more than this. Never been stopped by TSA. I got on the plane on Sunday with a purse, bag of food, and a backpack and a stroller. It's another one of those sometimes they check it, other times they don't.

 

[bicker]

Lack of enforcement is not an invitation to violate the rules. (Gosh. Where have I read that before? )

 

[disneyldwjr]

And let me reiterate what I've said in reply to you, previously: You're very unique, Anne!

While I also wouldn't mind spending more for stronger security (and I suspect a lot of folks who read this forum are "weird" like you and I), we're not representative of the American public.

Count me in as one that would not mind putting my money where my mouth is. Not weird, Bicker, just smart.

 

[CPT Tripss]

EDIT: The rule limiting passangers to one carry-on bag and one personal bag is a TSA rule.

Isn't the carry on limit an FAA regulation, not a TSA?
It is supposed to be enforced when boarding the plane . . . not when going through security. At the security stations, the Feds require/recommend that
many items be sent through the xray machine individually.

 

[CPT Tripss]

Here is a recent article from the Boston Globe.

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I work at Logan, every checked bag must go through one of these screening machines. As the article says, it has virtually no impact to passengers. The checked luggage gets placed on the bag belt during check-in like normal, but instead of heading to the planes it goes straight to the screening machines first.

Isn't that what happens with checked bags at every airport? More important to me is what about the commercial cargo? Very little, if any, of that gets screened before being loaded.

 

[bavaria]

Lack of enforcement is not an invitation to violate the rules. (Gosh. Where have I read that before? )

I toast you with a glass of milk, bicker!

(lactose free for both us, I believe?)

 

[ducklite]

Isn't the carry on limit an FAA regulation, not a TSA?
It is supposed to be enforced when boarding the plane . . . not when going through security. At the security stations, the Feds require/recommend that
many items be sent through the xray machine individually.

And this is my point entirely. Why does it matter if I have an item--call it ANY item--lets say it was my hairbrush--out of my bag as I hit that first checkpoint, as long as it's stowed before I get on the plane?

That was someone being a jerk for the sake of being a jerk. His "enforcing the rules" made no sense whatever. I wasn't hindering a boarding process, a safety process, or anything else. My handbag was much smaller than the average copy of the NY Times, yet would I have had to have that paper stowed away prior to getting through that line? Of course not.

And had I wrapped the straps around my waist and called it a fanny pack, would it have suddenly been OK?

Anne

 

[NotUrsula]

The "how many items do you have passing through security" issue is the same animal as those scanner sizing templates; the airlines ask TSA to police the number of items that pass through, so as to deter bin-hogs. The templates used to cause me all kinds of grief when I routinely flew with a carseat, because carseats to be used on board the aircraft are exempt from the carryon size limits.

My home airport is rabid about the number of items that go through with each passenger, and the only overage they will allow is the laptop itself, a coat, and your shoes. If you put a handbag inside a rollaboard or a laptop bag, you no longer have two bags. (8/10 has had no mitigating effect on this whatsoever.)

Here's my drill. On the bus from airport parking to the terminal, I take my license, my BP if I have it, and enough cash for my baggage tip out of my handbag and put those in my pocket, and I take all metal gadgets and coins off my person and put them in a ziploc inside my handbag. After arriving at the terminal, before entering the security line, I put the handbag and my shoes inside the carryon, and unzip the laptop pocket so that it can be fished out with one hand. After I leave security I stop off at the nearest gate or quiet corner and put my shoes on again, put away the ID, pull out my phone, etc., then I head for my gate. (And yes, I'm one of those insanely foolish people who have no problem at all walking around the indoor areas of an airport barefoot; the only exception being if I am dressed for business and wearing delicate hosiery. I'd much rather go barefoot than have to deal with juggling my laptop *and* my shoes. I'm lazy that way.)

 

[disneyldwjr]

And this is my point entirely. Why does it matter if I have an item--call it ANY item--lets say it was my hairbrush--out of my bag as I hit that first checkpoint, as long as it's stowed before I get on the plane?

That was someone being a jerk for the sake of being a jerk. His "enforcing the rules" made no sense whatever. I wasn't hindering a boarding process, a safety process, or anything else. My handbag was much smaller than the average copy of the NY Times, yet would I have had to have that paper stowed away prior to getting through that line? Of course not.

And had I wrapped the straps around my waist and called it a fanny pack, would it have suddenly been OK?

Anne

Fanny packs are considered a personal item.
Is everyone a jerk that you don't agree with? Size, in this case, does not matter, the number of items does. Or was he a jerk because he was enforcing the rules and you got caught?
Next time put your purse in your carry on, take out your id and bp first and breeze through security.

 

[Tara]

And this is my point entirely. Why does it matter if I have an item--call it ANY item--lets say it was my hairbrush--out of my bag as I hit that first checkpoint, as long as it's stowed before I get on the plane?

That was someone being a jerk for the sake of being a jerk. His "enforcing the rules" made no sense whatever. I wasn't hindering a boarding process, a safety process, or anything else. My handbag was much smaller than the average copy of the NY Times, yet would I have had to have that paper stowed away prior to getting through that line? Of course not.

And had I wrapped the straps around my waist and called it a fanny pack, would it have suddenly been OK?

In my experience, ALB is very consistent in monitoring the number of carry-on bags and personal items people bring through security. I for one like it because it means fewer people get to the gate with more than they will be allowed to board with; therefore, boarding is a bit smoother.

Conversely, how big would your handbag have to be before you'd consider this agent's action not jerk-like? The fact that your bag was small and would fit in your roll-aboard doesn't eliminate the fact that it is an additional bag.

And are you sure that the man was wearing a TSA shirt? IME, the people at those podiums are not TSA employees, though the shirts they wear as part o their uniforms look similar. (They usually have on burgandy sweater vests, too.)

 

[Hope73]

What about gum or friut snacks? Granola bars. I always take on plane for kids.

 

[ducklite]

In my experience, ALB is very consistent in monitoring the number of carry-on bags and personal items people bring through security. I for one like it because it means fewer people get to the gate with more than they will be allowed to board with; therefore, boarding is a bit smoother.

Conversely, how big would your handbag have to be before you'd consider this agent's action not jerk-like? The fact that your bag was small and would fit in your roll-aboard doesn't eliminate the fact that it is an additional bag.

And are you sure that the man was wearing a TSA shirt? IME, the people at those podiums are not TSA employees, though the shirts they wear as part o their uniforms look similar. (They usually have on burgandy sweater vests, too.)

He said "You can only have one carry-on and one personal item." I said "I know, and my purse will fit in my roll-on, I had it out to get to my wallet." It had actually been in my roll-on after I checked in a bag, and I pulled it out to get to my DL--I used my FF card to print my BP and check my bag.

He repeated "You can only ahve one carry-on and one personal item." And I again said "I'm aware of this, I'll have my purse in my roll-on when I go to board."

He looked at me again and said "You can only have one carry-on and one personal item." At that point I stuffed my purse into my roll-on and said "There, you happy now? I"m going to take it out as soon as I get to the x-ray machine to get my cell phone out of it." He pratcially ripped the boarding pass and ID from my hand--actually dropped my DL in the process, and then thrust them back at me.

Had he simply said "I really need you to put your pocketbook into the bag, I would have done so. But HE was the one acting like he was the king of the world with an chip on his shoulder the size of the Grand Canyon, and HIS attitude rubbed off onto me. It goes both ways.

He was wearing a white short sleeved dress shirt that had the TSA logo on it. I am absolutely sure of this. I did see other people in a different style/logo shirt that were not TSA.

The lady who went through before me had a tote bag, a camera bag, and a fanny pack larger than my purse, and wasn't given a hard time. This is why I'm so aggravated about the situation. Figure out the rules and apply them evenly, or don't bother to apply them at all.

Anne

 

[jodifla]

Lack of enforcement is not an invitation to violate the rules. (Gosh. Where have I read that before? )

I could have easily combined two, but didn't bother, and nobody asked me to. The point was TSA didn't care. Frankly, since you pretty much immediately start disrobing as you hit the security line anyway, it's difficult to know who has how many of what. Then you start throwing in strollers and car seats and diaper bags, and the count quickly adds up.

Note that stroller, car seat and diaper bags don't count against your allowed items.

To me, Ann's point was that the rules are applied arbitrarily by TSA folks, some of whom are just jerks or on huge power trips.

We encountered this behaviour in Boston. We were the first ones up to the security line, so we immediately started taking off our shoes, folding up the stroller, etc. On my husband's last four flights, they haven't had him take out his computer, so he didn't this time, either. We didn't see the sign asking us to do so. and because we didn't spend any time in line, we didn't have a chance to read all the postings.

When they found the computer in the scanner, they starting yelling at my husband. They were absolute jerks about it, really rude and nasty. Two of them were trying to pick a fight with my DH. It was unprofessional, and uncalled for, and unnecessary. But such is the way of some TSA agents. They have to exact their pound of flesh.

Kind of like some folks on the Disboards.

 

[bicker]

Is everyone a jerk that you don't agree with?

If the sarcastic and marginally respectful (or disrespectful) manner in which some folks address others in this thread is any indication of how they address TSA agents.... well, you know the rest.

Time for me to go anyway....

 

[bavaria]

What about gum or friut snacks? Granola bars. I always take on plane for kids.

those are all ok - just not liquid or gel

 

[CarolA]

I told him that I would be putting my handbag into my roll-on, and he looked at me like I had three heds and wouldn't let me through until I had done so. What a collasal waste of time.



He was wearing a TSA shirt. If he wasn't TSA then why would he have a TSA shirt on?



Like I said, my handbag would have been in the roll-on before I boarded, as it always is. I've never had this issue before--it just seemed ridiculous.



No one has EVER made me put the handbag into the roll-on before passing through security in the past. If you want to look at it from your perspective, then fanny packs should be considered carry-on's as well. My hand bag was smaller than the average fanny pack.



Like I said, I don't consider myself above the rules, because it would have been put into the other bag before bnoarding--no different than someone who is hand carrying their laptop apart from the laptop bag.

Anne

I am really sorry that ONLY ALB has made you play by the rules....I don't like the TSA and everyone on here knows that. However, in this case YOU were in the wrong. THe TSA was just suppose to believe you because.... YEAH, like they haven't heard that line before when there was NO way the third piece could be combined with the second. The "waste of time" could be avoided if you had been in compliance. For someone who routinely blames tourists for breaking the rules and holding you up at MCO, this is an interesting post....


The carryon rule enforcement should begin where it did in this case. Otherwise when you get to the gate with your THREE carryons should the airline decide to stick to thier guns and do the right thing you hold up thier process while they gate check the extra piece.

You thought that since you are a "frequent flyer" and know the rules you should get a pass..


If you ever fly out of Nashville, be prepared your "little handbag" will NOT get by the ID check nor should it be allowed at MCO, ALB or anyplace else.

 

[ducklite]

I am really sorry that ONLY ALB has made you play by the rules....I don't like the TSA and everyone on here knows that. However, in this case YOU were in the wrong. THe TSA was just suppose to believe you because.... YEAH, like they haven't heard that line before when there was NO way the third piece could be combined with the second. The "waste of time" could be avoided if you had been in compliance. For someone who routinely blames tourists for breaking the rules and holding you up at MCO, this is an interesting post....


The carryon rule enforcement should begin where it did in this case. Otherwise when you get to the gate with your THREE carryons should the airline decide to stick to thier guns and do the right thing you hold up thier process while they gate check the extra piece.

You thought that since you are a "frequent flyer" and know the rules you should get a pass..


If you ever fly out of Nashville, be prepared your "little handbag" will NOT get by the ID check nor should it be allowed at MCO, ALB or anyplace else.

It seems that the rules are actually boarding--one carry-on and one personal item. I wasn't boarding, I was clearing security. Big difference.

Anne