CARNIVAL VS DCL: The discussion and comparison thread!

[skittlesfirehawk]

I would suggest that instead of bashing other CL and praising DCL that you really read through this thread and others on the RCCL board to get a better picture. I would not take my children on a ship that wasn't safe, clean and family-friendly. Many people have spent a lot of time contributing to this thread and have a lot of combined experience on all the cruise lines. If you want to live in the Disney bubble that is of no importance to me but don't comment until you have first-hand experience about something.

I’ve only commented on my experiences and things I’ve heard from other cruisers.

 

[mevelandry]

I’ve only commented on my experiences and things I’ve heard from other cruisers.

From what I understand you did not have experienced Carnival ... therefore you cannot give a review or a valid comparison, except for the aestetics of the exterior of the ship you were docked beside of.

 

[trvlgirlmq]

I’ve only commented on my experiences and things I’ve heard from other cruisers.

Hearsay is not admissible. As I stated if you would read the thread you would find many people with actual experience on other lines who had good experiences and in some cases liked it better than DCL. Or go try it yourself and form your own opinion.

 

[mevelandry]

Anyways... Let's move on, please.

 

[MickeyD]

In other news...., did any of you happen to catch the documentary on the Carnival Vista last night on the Smithsonian channel? I just missed it, but will dvr it for next time.

 

[BCV23]

From what I understand you did not have experienced Carnival ... therefore you cannot give a review or a valid comparison, except for the aestetics of the exterior of the ship you were docked beside of.

But she can share her opinions and impressions. This is a free board and all are welcome last I knew....as long as they treat others with respect.

Hearsay is not admissible. As I stated if you would read the thread you would find many people with actual experience on other lines who had good experiences and in some cases liked it better than DCL. Or go try it yourself and form your own opinion.

Is there some reason you can decide what it "admissible" on the DIS?

Most people on this thread are friendly and helpful just like most of the DIS. However, there are a few who seem to slam anyone who has doubts about Carnival or just different opinions for that matter. There also seems to be a double standard. People who have not sailed on DCL but have sailed on Carnival are welcome to post their opinions but those of us who have not sailed on Carnival should not share ours.

My latest non-experience with Carnival was in January in Nassau. We were enjoying a B2B cruise on the Disney Magic but had the misfortune to be docked next to a Carnival ship that blasted music for hours. I enjoy sitting on our verandah reading but could not stand the noise pollution. It was even audible in our cabin. So very inconsiderate IMO.

This thread is a great resource for people to share their experiences with DCL, Carnival and other lines but it is hardly Zen like when fellow DISsers are discouraged from posting.

Happy sailing to all.

 

[mevelandry]

In other news...., did any of you happen to catch the documentary on the Carnival Vista last night on the Smithsonian channel? I just missed it, but will dvr it for next time.

I don't have access to that channel but I've seen a documentary on the Vista. Maybe it's the same?

 

[trvlgirlmq]

But she can share her opinions and impressions. This is a free board and all are welcome last I knew....as long as they treat others with respect.



Is there some reason you can decide what it "admissible" on the DIS?

Most people on this thread are friendly and helpful just like most of the DIS. However, there are a few who seem to slam anyone who has doubts about Carnival or just different opinions for that matter. There also seems to be a double standard. People who have not sailed on DCL but have sailed on Carnival are welcome to post their opinions but those of us who have not sailed on Carnival should not share ours.

My latest non-experience with Carnival was in January in Nassau. We were enjoying a B2B cruise on the Disney Magic but had the misfortune to be docked next to a Carnival ship that blasted music for hours. I enjoy sitting on our verandah reading but could not stand the noise pollution. It was even audible in our cabin. So very inconsiderate IMO.

This thread is a great resource for people to share their experiences with DCL, Carnival and other lines but it is hardly Zen like when fellow DISsers are discouraged from posting.

Happy sailing to all.

I don't go on DCL threads and bash the things I have heard about it that I don't like and the kind of people that sail so it's not the same. If you want to learn about Carnival then come with an open mind. If you just want to spew vitriol and hearsay then take my mom's advice and if you can't say something nice don't say anything at all.

 

[mevelandry]

But she can share her opinions and impressions. This is a free board and all are welcome last I knew....as long as they treat others with respect.

(...)

Happy sailing to all.

I'm fine with different opinions (bad experience can happen) but I feel like some people can be quite condescending or seem to be looking for argument and I question their motivations behind the things they say. And I don't feel the respect. (As it was the case with the person I replied to.)

I try to remain nice and polite as much as I can (also I'll refer you to my signature... I really do my best to try to explain myself without roughing feathers but sometimes my intentions are lost in translation) as I never want to be mean when I try to respectfully "put people in their place" because they are pushing other people buttons.

Sometimes I wish I could pv the person to try to have a chat and explaining that their comments are hurtful but I'm afraid to be invasive or that would come of as intimidating when it's not my intentions. Should I do that instead of replying to them publicly? Should I just ignore them? Should I report them? I really don't know what the best option is to be honest.

What are you suppose to say when you tell someone that their "opinion" is hurtful and all they reply is "Truth hurts!" ? (This is not rhetorical, I'm asking...)

Trust me, I want to place to be informative and friendly. Not a warzone.

 

[MickeyD]

I don't have access to that channel but I've seen a documentary on the Vista. Maybe it's the same?

I am not sure who did it, and I watch via their app too. They also did one on NCL Epic and Breakaway, and RCCL Quantum and Oasis of the Seas, and MSC Divinia. It is the Mighty Ships series

 

[mevelandry]

(...)
My latest non-experience with Carnival was in January in Nassau. We were enjoying a B2B cruise on the Disney Magic but had the misfortune to be docked next to a Carnival ship that blasted music for hours. I enjoy sitting on our verandah reading but could not stand the noise pollution. It was even audible in our cabin. So very inconsiderate IMO. (...)

I'm very happy to chat with you about this and I think this is a very interesting question.

I am not sure what the rules are when it comes to decibels while you are docked in a port and have no knowledge of sounds vs winds... Therefore I can't tell if Carnival is acting rude or if they are simply taking their right to put the volume as loud as the rule permits to (Note: Does that sentence even make sense? Not sure of my syntax/vocabulary here).

I do think the music is a bit loud sometimes.

 

[we"reofftoneverland]

Chocolate desserts on Vista! So many of the files I have tried to upload say too big.

 

[mevelandry]

I am not sure who did it, and I watch via their app too. They also did one on NCL Epic and Breakaway, and RCCL Quantum and Oasis of the Seas, and MSC Divinia. It is the Mighty Ships series

I think I've seen it!

 

[mevelandry]

Trying to go back to the positivity... Here are a few of my favorite memories...

Carnival Victory: My DH, gazing at the ocean... (in the aft pool section, our favorite).



Still Carnival Victory: DH playing mini-golf while docked in Nassau. I just LOVE mini-golf and I love it even more on cruiseships... Although it can be quite windy over there. LOL

 

[skittlesfirehawk]

Is there a mod for this thread? I find it pretty ridiculous I’m being attacked by members on this thread in other threads in the cruise forum that have nothing to do with here. For people who think dcl cruisers are snobs and mean I’ve never previously been attacked on the disboards only since I posted here.

 

[BCV23]

I don't go on DCL threads and bash the things I have heard about it that I don't like and the kind of people that sail so it's not the same. If you want to learn about Carnival then come with an open mind. If you just want to spew vitriol and hearsay then take my mom's advice and if you can't say something nice don't say anything at all.

Your mother certainly gave you great advice.

My point was that none of us have the authority to decide what is allowed on this thread. That is up to the moderators and of course the owner of the DIS.

It is not a Carnival thread. It is a thread comparing DCL and Carnival located on the DCL forum.

I'm fine with different opinions (bad experience can happen) but I feel like some people can be quite condescending or seem to be looking for argument and I question their motivations behind the things they say. And I don't feel the respect. (As it was the case with the person I replied to.)

I try to remain nice and polite as much as I can (also I'll refer you to my signature... I really do my best to try to explain myself without roughing feathers but sometimes my intentions are lost in translation) as I never want to be mean when I try to respectfully "put people in their place" because they are pushing other people buttons.

Sometimes I wish I could pv the person to try to have a chat and explaining that their comments are hurtful but I'm afraid to be invasive or that would come of as intimidating when it's not my intentions. Should I do that instead of replying to them publicly? Should I just ignore them? Should I report them? I really don't know what the best option is to be honest.

What are you suppose to say when you tell someone that their "opinion" is hurtful and all they reply is "Truth hurts!" ? (This is not rhetorical, I'm asking...)

Trust me, I want to place to be informative and friendly. Not a warzone.

I've noticed that you are generally very respectful and friendly. I wouldn't worry too much about "putting people in their place." You started this thread and work hard at updating it but aren't a moderator so have no need to concern yourself with policing it.

Again happy sailing to all!

 

[RedSox68]

Is there a mod for this thread? I find it pretty ridiculous I’m being attacked by members on this thread in other threads in the cruise forum that have nothing to do with here. For people who think dcl cruisers are snobs and mean I’ve never previously been attacked on the disboards only since I posted here.

Having read through the last few pages, I don't see it as an "attack" but rather posters questioning why you are dissing a cruise line you have no first-hand knowledge of Instead of using this thread as a learning opportunity or to ask questions, you are only referring to second-hand information from others who didn't like Carnival. I think they just want you to check out the ships and cruise reviews for informative information. I don't think they meant for you to be censored or shut out.

 

[skittlesfirehawk]

Having read through the last few pages, I don't see it as an "attack" but rather posters questioning why you are dissing a cruise line you have no first-hand knowledge of Instead of using this thread as a learning opportunity or to ask questions, you are only referring to second-hand information from others who didn't like Carnival. I think they just want you to check out the ships and cruise reviews for informative information. I don't think they meant for you to be censored or shut out.

I’m talking about posters coming into other threads I’m posting in and bringing up stuff that has zero to do with that thread but is about this thread.

 

[BCV23]

I'm very happy to chat with you about this and I think this is a very interesting question.

I am not sure what the rules are when it comes to decibels while you are docked in a port and have no knowledge of sounds vs winds... Therefore I can't tell if Carnival is acting rude or if they are simply taking their right to put the volume as loud as the rule permits to (Note: Does that sentence even make sense? Not sure of my syntax/vocabulary here).

I do think the music is a bit loud sometimes.

Whoops forgot to add this one. That is an interesting question. I have no idea either but it was terrible IMO. It is also the first time I have experienced it including other times we have been docked by Carnival ships. I hope it was a one off and not a new trend.

 

[cruiser21]

I think it's fine for people to come here and give their opinions about Carnival or ask questions. It fine if they hate Carnival. Every once in a while it seem like we get a poster that just wants to troll the thread. They will just keep stating over and over that dcl is better the Carnival when they have no first hand knowledge. It happens frequently.
It's fine if they feel that way but it's not really contributing to the conversation. I'm sure there are people that look at this thread to get honest reviews on Carnival.