CARNIVAL VS DCL: The discussion and comparison thread!

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It's crazy how people can have such different experiences on the same type of vacation. We've been on about every class of Carnival ship and never experienced super long lines, trouble with embarkation/debarkation, bad food, etc. However, I have heard mixed things about the Vista so we have yet to try it. Same with the mega ships on RCL, like the Oasis or Symphony. Before we booked the Conquest, we looked at all of these different ones and just couldn't get excited about them. But other people swear by mega ships and the new Carnival ones, so you just never know until you give it a try.

I've been on three Carnival cruises, have talked with many guests (co-workers and those docked nearby when I'm not on a Carnival ship). I've talked to other guests on the same Disney ship I was on. It's amazing how different each person sees or experiences the exact same vacation. I'm not at all surprised that across a variety of ships, itineraries and sail dates, we'd all have different experiences.

One thing I've experienced very consistently on every one of the three Carnival vacations I've been on is long lines and mediocre service. Especially long lines at embarkation. Mediocre service in the main dining room every time. I have never had to get up from my table to retrieve a water or tea pitcher to get my own refills, but I've had to do this twice on Carnival (different sailings). I've had to send food back on Carnival because it just wasn't edible. I've had to send food back on Disney because it was wrong or just wasn't as good as it should have been, but not because it was so bad I couldn't eat it. When I sent food back on Disney, the chef came out to talk to me AND they sent us chocolate covered strawberries to our room. When I sent it back on Carnival, they gave me a form to fill out (while still eating in the main dining room) and never head from them again. I pay a lot less and I expect a lot less and I'm not disappointed.
 
I have talked to many first time cruisers on DCL...who were one and done. Cost being a factor and the wow factor just wasn't there for what they were paying. I've been on cruises that were half platinum and gold and these people wouldn't even consider another cruiseline. People are loyal if they like a product.
 
I've been on three Carnival cruises, have talked with many guests (co-workers and those docked nearby when I'm not on a Carnival ship). I've talked to other guests on the same Disney ship I was on. It's amazing how different each person sees or experiences the exact same vacation. I'm not at all surprised that across a variety of ships, itineraries and sail dates, we'd all have different experiences.

One thing I've experienced very consistently on every one of the three Carnival vacations I've been on is long lines and mediocre service. Especially long lines at embarkation. Mediocre service in the main dining room every time. I have never had to get up from my table to retrieve a water or tea pitcher to get my own refills, but I've had to do this twice on Carnival (different sailings). I've had to send food back on Carnival because it just wasn't edible. I've had to send food back on Disney because it was wrong or just wasn't as good as it should have been, but not because it was so bad I couldn't eat it. When I sent food back on Disney, the chef came out to talk to me AND they sent us chocolate covered strawberries to our room. When I sent it back on Carnival, they gave me a form to fill out (while still eating in the main dining room) and never head from them again. I pay a lot less and I expect a lot less and I'm not disappointed.

I'd like to know which Carnival ships you have sailed on because our experience with the dining room on the Victory (x2) and the Vista was so good and the servers so nice...

On our Cruises, we have seen long lines yes, like at guy's burgers and Pig & Anchor (they can be intimidating), but even if I was waiting in line behind 30 people, I always waited less than 10 minutes.

I've only sent one dish back on Carnival and the chef came to talk to me. :)
 
I'd like to know which Carnival ships you have sailed on because our experience with the dining room on the Victory (x2) and the Vista was so good and the servers so nice...

On our Cruises, we have seen long lines yes, like at guy's burgers and Pig & Anchor (they can be intimidating), but even if I was waiting in line behind 30 people, I always waited less than 10 minutes.

I've only sent one dish back on Carnival and the chef came to talk to me. :)
Most recent was on the Carnival Breeze for 7 days out of Galveston. Newer ship, longer cruise than the first two. Those were just the 4 days out of Long Beach to Ensenada. I've posted on this thread more detail about my dining experience on the Breeze. Loved the buffet but not the MDR. Even the molten chocolate cake was good but the ice cream had thawed and refrozen so it had ice crystals. Overall poor quality.

It's all banquet style so I don't expect a full restaurant experience like I would get on land, but I do expect the food to be decent.
 
Most recent was on the Carnival Breeze for 7 days out of Galveston. Newer ship, longer cruise than the first two. Those were just the 4 days out of Long Beach to Ensenada. I've posted on this thread more detail about my dining experience on the Breeze. Loved the buffet but not the MDR. Even the molten chocolate cake was good but the ice cream had thawed and refrozen so it had ice crystals. Overall poor quality.

It's all banquet style so I don't expect a full restaurant experience like I would get on land, but I do expect the food to be decent.

The reviews I read from the Breeze are always so polarized... I'm intrigued.
 
This thread is..... interesting. It was apparently started as a comparison thread (??), but seems to have morphed into a Carnival Cruise thread almost entirely. When folks are posting about upcoming deals, upcoming ships, etc., with NO comparison to DCL, it just feels like maybe this thread should move over to another forum. :flower3:

As PP have said, everyone has their own opinions and perspectives. And experiences can certainly vary one cruise to another. That's why there are LOTS of cruise lines out there! Something for everyone that wants to cruise, right? :cutie: I have no desire to cruise Cunard for example, but some folks probably love it. ::yes::

Guess what I'm trying to say is that those that really don't like DCL, are welcome to voice their opinion, but this IS the Disney Cruise Line forum.....
 
This thread is..... interesting. It was apparently started as a comparison thread (??), but seems to have morphed into a Carnival Cruise thread almost entirely. When folks are posting about upcoming deals, upcoming ships, etc., with NO comparison to DCL, it just feels like maybe this thread should move over to another forum. :flower3:

As PP have said, everyone has their own opinions and perspectives. And experiences can certainly vary one cruise to another. That's why there are LOTS of cruise lines out there! Something for everyone that wants to cruise, right? :cutie: I have no desire to cruise Cunard for example, but some folks probably love it. ::yes::

Guess what I'm trying to say is that those that really don't like DCL, are welcome to voice their opinion, but this IS the Disney Cruise Line forum.....

I'm not gonna lie: your comment hurt my feelings.

I have received permission from the mods to create this thread and keep it up & I have worked hard to put it up & I still work hard to keep it up to date and make sure I got my DCL info right as well (as I have sailed on DCL rather recently --in 2017-- and keep reading everything I see about DCL) and also make sure that everyone in here feels welcome to speak freely about their experiences and preferences.

Yes, this thread was started as a comparison thread and most people, when they come back from their Carnival cruises, still do comparisons with DCL ships... (Whenever they do and give me permission, I put every link in the first post.)

FYI, most of us are DCL fans and no matter where our preference go, DCL remain in our top choices.

I strongly believe that we all have our place here and that this thread also still has a place as well...
 
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I just got back from a week on the Carnival Magic, completing an Eastern Caribbean cruise. Over spring break, I completed my second cruise on the Disney Dream, with both of them stopping at Nassau and Castaway Cay. It is worth mentioning that my family had this cruise paid for by my mother in law, and that we would have never sailed on Carnival if we were spending our own money. This is because of the perception of Carnival that we had going in to this past cruise. The Dream and the Magic are around the same size and age, so I figured a comparison would make sense here.

Embarkation - The Carnival one went much, much quicker. When boarding the Disney ship, we waited in a security line for 40 minutes, and then a check in line for another 20. By the time we had gotten through both, our boarding number had already been called. When boarding the Carnival ship, we breezed through check in and security. We ran into a minor hiccup when some teenager who was checking tickets didn't know how to process our children, but it was quickly fixed by a supervisor. The whole process from pulling into port to walking onto the ship took about 15 minutes.

Disembarkation - They seemed about the same to me. It's just hard to get thousands of people walking off of a ship and through customs, and I felt that both lines handled it the best they could.

Ship Layout - The Disney ship's layout made more sense to me. Everything flowed through the grand atrium and it's connected hallways. The Magic has dining rooms on the 3rd floor, but the galley was also there, cutting the floor into chunks. The only way to get from the front to the back easily is to go up to the 5th floor, where a lot of the nighttime entertainment spots are found. In order to walk through that deck, though, you have to walk through the casino, which allows smoking. After having to do that a couple of times, my family quickily memorized which elevator bank we had to go to in order to get to each section of the ship (dining room is in the middle, go to the middle elevator first, then go down. Coffee is towards the front, go to the front elevator, then down, and so on.) Once we had the layout figured out by night 3 or so, it was fine. The middle elevator section was really neat, as there were glass elevators overlooking the atrium on deck 3 all the way up to deck 11. It made that area of the ship feel very "grand".

Cleanliness - Disney gets a big win here. On the Disney ship, there were people actually in the bathrooms cleaning them as they were being used. There were people wiping down railings during the day. There were other people standing at the entrance of eateries almost forcing you to use hand sanitizer. The bathrooms on the Magic were never dirty, but they were more similar to one you may find at a restaurant, clean, but clearly used, with water on the floor, etc. The railings on the ship were sticky at points. Most upsetting was the hand sanitizer at meals. It could be found in dispensers attached to walls. A few people would use them from time to time, but many would not. The one in the back of the ship, by the pizza place, was not working when I tried to use it. I observed people swabbing decks between 6 and 7 in the morning, so the Magic was cleaned, just not as frequently as the Dream. The Magic was never dirty, but it was clear that some of the extra money people spend on Disney cruises does go towards hiring more cleaning staff.

Staterooms - This was by far the weakest point of the Carnival Magic. Despite being around the same age as the Dream, the Magic's rooms felt old and used, while the Dream's felt a lot more like hotel rooms. The best comparison I can give is that the Disney rooms felt like staying at a smaller version of a Disney hotel while the Carnival ones felt like staying at a Motel 6. Functional, but not something I wanted to take pictures of. There was a layer of grime on the balcony that grossed me out on the first day, but that I learned to just live with by the time the cruise was over. The sink in our room backed up. We reported this on our first afternoon, and nothing was done about it the whole week we were there. We had a major issue with air conditioning, which I will go into further detail about in the staffing section.

Staffing - Everybody I interacted with on the Disney ship seemed like they were in the customer service industry. Most of the people I dealt with on the Carnival ship seemed the same way. It felt like the lower level employees on both ships were very overworked. I felt like the ones on Carnival were trying to please customers almost against their bosses' wishes, though. When we made friends with bartenders, they would tell us about new drinks and encouraged us to try them based on our interests, but would have to pretend to make something different because they were being recorded as they worked. Our room on the first night was very, very warm and stuffy. I tried calling housekeeping, guest services, and even room service at about 10:00 that night. The only reason I tried so many people is because not a single one of them would answer the phone. The next morning we had to walk down to guest services, only to be told that as long as our room got down to 74 degrees, it was acceptable, whether we liked it our not. I thought that was pretty poor customer service. If I was asking for the room to get down to 58 degrees, of course I could understand, but the hardline set at 74 felt cheap to me. Luckily, my room steward knew the room slept hot and was able to remove the grate to our vent, increasing air flow. It felt like he was Mr. Incredible working for Insuricare, working to please customers against his bosses' wishes.
The dining staff on the Magic was much more fun and interactive in my opinion. This is taking nothing away from the Dream's staff, and comparing one dining staff on one cruise to just two staffs on the other line does not in any way make me an expert, but I thought it was worth sharing that opinion.

Food - Without a doubt, the food in Cabanas on the Dream was much better than the offerings in the Lido deck on the Magic. The food offerings at Cabanas were both solid and varied and I always found something I liked there. In the Lido marketplace, it was often the same food every day, and some of the items tasted like they had been sitting out for some time. I also thought that Cabanas was better thought out. It had many smaller stations, which broke up crowds. The Lido marketplace had 4 large serving stations, so during a rush it led to large lines. The Magic's other food offerings were better than the Dream's, though. They had a really good burrito place, a very popular burger place, as well as an Indian food stand and a smoked meat stand which were both very tasty. My only complaint about those places was their limited, and somewhat odd, hours. They were often only open from 12-2:30, even if the ship was docking at 11:45. This made many of those locations worthless if you planned on spending the day ashore.
The sit down restaurant on the Magic was much, much better than Disney's offerings. When I was on the Dream, I struggled to find any one dish at each meal that would excite me in any way. I remember the Cranberry salad at Animator's Palette being one, but then the rest of the meal was average at best. On the Magic, every item I ordered at every meal, with the exception of a total of one entree and one appetizer during the whole week, was exceptional. My wife, who typically does not get excited about food, agreed.
The dinnertime entertainment was also surprisingly more fun on the Carnival ships. As neat as it was to look at little Beast heads, or to see flowers open and close on the Dream, it was more entertaining to see waiters and dining guests get up and dance to "Can't stop the feeling". I never realized how stuffy the Dream's restaurants felt until I experienced my meals this past week.

Pools - I liked the Magic's pools better. It is worth noting that the adult only area on the Dream is much better than on the Magic. The pool with the swim up bar is much more fun than the few hot tubs and sunning deck found on the Magic. That did not bother us, though, as we had two children with us at all times. The Magic had 2 pools, a quiet one in the back of the ship, and a "party" one in the middle. This was comparable to the Dream's pools. The kid's water play area was much, much better on the Magic. It had two great water slides, buckets dumping on kids, water cannons, racing slides, and, most importantly, supervision by staff members. I hated that Nemo's Reef on the Dream because it was both difficult and necessary to supervise children there, and many people chose not to do so themselves.

Entertainment - Disney gets a big win here, but with a cost. It would be pretty impressive for somebody to top having guests watch Beauty and the Beast, and then having Goofy and Pluto giving out autographs after the show. I actually preferred my evenings on the Magic, though, because of the lower level entertainment. On the Dream, we felt such pressure to make dinner by 5:45 so that we could get seated and then go to the 8:00 show. While it was worthwhile on some nights, it left us feeling too pressured on others. With the entertainment on the Magic not being a constraining factor, we were able to enjoy the anytime dining. If our kids were up from nap early, we ate early. If they were tired, we slept late. It felt much more like a vacation. After dinner on the Magic, we would either go up to the pool deck and catch the end of a movie, enjoying the free popcorn, or we would drop the kids off and at kids club and my wife and I would enjoy one of the many bars on the ship.
The bars on both the Dream and the Magic are pretty on par with each other. I really enjoyed the skyline bar on the Dream, and the Redfrog Pub on the Magic. It felt like both ships had something for different types of people. The kid's clubs on both ships did a good job of entertaining our kids for 40 minutes at a time. There was more to do on the Disney ship, but that's not necessarily a good thing, as that led to our kids jumping from one thing to another and then getting bored. The kid's club staff on each ship was great.

Despite the many negatives of the Magic, I would book another cruise on it in an instant. In fact, I am already looking into taking another cruise on it's sister ship, the Breeze, next summer. The real draw of the Carnival ships is the price. I was not able to enjoy my most previous Disney cruise because I was dumb enough to break down how much it cost per hour. If I did the same with the Carnival Magic, the cost is not nearly the same. The people on the islands don't care what ship you took to get there, or how much you spent on your stateroom. The Carnival Magic, to me, was like staying at Pop Century in order to enjoy the parks. There was some big downsides to it, some really good upsides to it, and overall it was a lot cheaper than staying at the Polynesian. Both ships take you to islands, which is the real draw of a cruise, just as both hotels get you to the theme parks. My weeklong cruise on this ship completely changed my opinion of sailing on Carnival. I was almost glad to see some of the issues, as I knew the line was not perfect, and it made it easier to enjoy all the great parts of the ship.

*A couple of additions that I should have mentioned earlier*

The coffee at the coffee bar on the Magic was fantastic. If any coffee drinkers take a cruise on the ship, try the frappe. It isn't overly sweet like ones at Starbucks, and everybody I knew who tried one ended up ordering another at some point on the cruise.

I was nervous about going on a Carnival cruise because I had a preconceived notion that there would be a "people of Walmart" (to use another stereotype) sort of crowd on the ship. While it was definitely a more casual crowd, every other cruiser I interacted with was very nice to myself and my children. Lot's of retired couples could be found on this cruise, probably because it is a relatively cheap getaway.

Part of my nervousness about the people came from the fact that you could prepurchase 15 drinks per day as part of their "Cheers" package. I envisioned a bunch of obnoxious drunk people all cruise long as a result of this. Other than one really annoying guy who kept yelling "woo!" dozens of times in the main pool on the first day, I was never bothered by anybody else. I actually got the package myself and never had more than 6 drinks throughout a day, but liked how it was similar to the Disney Dining Plan in that it allowed me to try drinks I would have never tried before without worrying about their price. I would get the package on my next Carnival Cruise.
 
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I'm not gonna lie: your comment hurt my feelings.

I have received permission from the mods to create this thread and keep it up & I have worked hard to put it up & I still work hard to keep it up to date and make sure I got my DCL info right as well (as I have sailed on DCL rather recently --in 2017-- and keep reading everything I see about DCL) and also make sure that everyone in here feels welcome to speak freely about their experiences and preferences.

Yes, this thread was started as a comparison thread and most people, when they come back from their Carnival cruises, still do comparisons with DCL ships... (Whenever they do and give me permission, I put every link in the first post.)

FYI, most of us are DCL fans and no matter where our preference go, DCL remain in our top choices.

I strongly believe that we all have our place here and that this thread also still has a place as well...

I find it kind of funny that while you were writing that comment, I was doing literally what you said was being done on this thread - comparing Disney cruises to Carnival ones.
 
I just got back from a week on the Carnival Magic, completing an Eastern Caribbean cruise. Over spring break, I completed my second cruise on the Disney Dream, with both of them stopping at Nassau and Castaway Cay. It is worth mentioning that my family had this cruise paid for by my mother in law, and that we would have never sailed on Carnival if we were spending our own money. This is because of the perception of Carnival that we had going in to this past cruise. The Dream and the Magic are around the same size and age, so I figured a comparison would make sense here.

Embarkation - The Carnival one went much, much quicker. When boarding the Disney ship, we waited in a security line for 40 minutes, and then a check in line for another 20. By the time we had gotten through both, our boarding number had already been called. When boarding the Carnival ship, we breezed through check in and security. We ran into a minor hiccup when some teenager who was checking tickets didn't know how to process our children, but it was quickly fixed by a supervisor. The whole process from pulling into port to walking onto the ship took about 15 minutes.

Disembarkation - They seemed about the same to me. It's just hard to get thousands of people walking off of a ship and through customs, and I felt that both lines handled it the best they could.

Ship Layout - The Disney ship's layout made more sense to me. Everything flowed through the grand atrium and it's connected hallways. The Magic has dining rooms on the 3rd floor, but the galley was also there, cutting the floor into chunks. The only way to get from the front to the back easily is to go up to the 5th floor, where a lot of the nighttime entertainment spots are found. In order to walk through that deck, though, you have to walk through the casino, which allows smoking. After having to do that a couple of times, my family quickily memorized which elevator bank we had to go to in order to get to each section of the ship (dining room is in the middle, go to the middle elevator first, then go down. Coffee is towards the front, go to the front elevator, then down, and so on.) Once we had the layout figured out by night 3 or so, it was fine. The middle elevator section was really neat, as there were glass elevators overlooking the atrium on deck 3 all the way up to deck 11. It made that area of the ship feel very "grand".

Cleanliness - Disney gets a big win here. On the Disney ship, there were people actually in the bathrooms cleaning them as they were being used. There were people wiping down railings during the day. There were other people standing at the entrance of eateries almost forcing you to use hand sanitizer. The bathrooms on the Magic were never dirty, but they were more similar to one you may find at a restaurant, clean, but clearly used, with water on the floor, etc. The railings on the ship were sticky at points. Most upsetting was the hand sanitizer at meals. It could be found in dispensers attached to walls. A few people would use them from time to time, but many would not. The one in the back of the ship, by the pizza place, was not working when I tried to use it. I observed people swabbing decks between 6 and 7 in the morning, so the Magic was cleaned, just not as frequently as the Dream. The Magic was never dirty, but it was clear that some of the extra money people spend on Disney cruises does go towards hiring more cleaning staff.

Staterooms - This was by far the weakest point of the Carnival Magic. Despite being around the same age as the Dream, the Magic's rooms felt old and used, while the Dream's felt a lot more like hotel rooms. The best comparison I can give is that the Disney rooms felt like staying at a smaller version of a Disney hotel while the Carnival ones felt like staying at a Motel 6. Functional, but not something I wanted to take pictures of. There was a layer of grime on the balcony that grossed me out on the first day, but that I learned to just live with by the time the cruise was over. The sink in our room backed up. We reported this on our first afternoon, and nothing was done about it the whole week we were there. We had a major issue with air conditioning, which I will go into further detail about in the staffing section.

Staffing - Everybody I interacted with on the Disney ship seemed like they were in the customer service industry. Most of the people I dealt with on the Carnival ship seemed the same way. It felt like the lower level employees on both ships were very overworked. I felt like the ones on Carnival were trying to please customers almost against their bosses' wishes, though. When we made friends with bartenders, they would tell us about new drinks and encouraged us to try them based on our interests, but would have to pretend to make something different because they were being recorded as they worked. Our room on the first night was very, very warm and stuffy. I tried calling housekeeping, guest services, and even room service at about 10:00 that night. The only reason I tried so many people is because not a single one of them would answer the phone. The next morning we had to walk down to guest services, only to be told that as long as our room got down to 74 degrees, it was acceptable, whether we liked it our not. I thought that was pretty poor customer service. If I was asking for the room to get down to 58 degrees, of course I could understand, but the hardline set at 74 felt cheap to me. Luckily, my room steward knew the room slept hot and was able to remove the grate to our vent, increasing air flow. It felt like he was Mr. Incredible working for Insuricare.
The dining staff on the Magic was much more fun and interactive in my opinion. This is taking nothing away from the Dream's staff, and comparing one dining staff on one cruise to just two staffs on the other line does not in any way make me an expert, but I thought it was worth sharing that opinion.

Food - Without a doubt, the food in Cabanas on the Dream was much better than the offerings in the Lido deck on the Magic. The food offerings at Cabanas were both solid and varied and I always found something I liked there. In the Lido marketplace, it was often the same food every day, and some of the items tasted like they had been sitting out for some time. I also thought that Cabanas was better thought out. It had many smaller stations, which broke up crowds. The Lido marketplace had 4 large serving stations, so during a rush it led to large lines. The Magic's other food offerings were better than the Dream's, though. They had a really good burrito place, a very popular burger place, as well as an Indian food stand and a smoked meat stand which were both very tasty. My only complaint about those places was their limited, and somewhat odd, hours. They were often only open from 12-2:30, even if the ship was docking at 11:45. This made many of those locations worthless if you planned on spending the day ashore.
The sit down restaurant on the Magic was much, much better than Disney's offerings. When I was on the Dream, I struggled to find any one dish at each meal that would excite me in any way. I remember the Cranberry salad at Animator's Palette being one, but then the rest of the meal was average at best. On the Magic, every item I ordered at every meal, with the exception of a total of one entree and one appetizer during the whole week, was exceptional. My wife, who typically does not get excited about food, agreed.
The dinnertime entertainment was also surprisingly more fun on the Carnival ships. As neat as it was to look at little Beast heads, or to see flowers open and close on the Dream, it was more entertaining to see waiters and dining guests get up and dance to "Can't stop the feeling". I never realized how stuffy the Dream's restaurants felt until I experienced my meals this past week.

Pools - I liked the Magic's pools better. It is worth noting that the adult only area on the Dream is much better than on the Magic. The pool with the swim up bar is much more fun than the few hot tubs and sunning deck found on the Magic. That did not bother us, though, as we had two children with us at all times. The Magic had 2 pools, a quiet one in the back of the ship, and a "party" one in the middle. This was comparable to the Dream's pools. The kid's water play area was much, much better on the Magic. It had two great water slides, buckets dumping on kids, water cannons, racing slides, and, most importantly, supervision by staff members. I hated that Nemo's Reef on the Dream because it was both difficult and necessary to supervise children there, and many people chose not to do so themselves.

Entertainment - Disney gets a big win here, but with a cost. It would be pretty impressive for somebody to top watching Beauty and the Beast, and then walking out and meeting Goofy and Pluto. I actually preferred my evening on the Magic, though, because of the lower level entertainment. On the Dream, we felt such pressure to make dinner by 5:45 so that we could get seated and then go to the 8:00 show. While it was worthwhile on some nights, it left us feeling too pressured on others. With the entertainment on the Magic not being a constraining factor, we were able to enjoy the anytime dining. If our kids were up from nap early, we ate early. If they were tired, we slept late. It felt much more like a vacation. After dinner on the Magic, we would either go up to the pool deck and catch the end of a movie, enjoying the free popcorn, or we would drop the kids off and at kids club and my wife and I would enjoy one of the many bars on the ship.
The bars on both the Dream and the Magic are pretty on par with each other. I really enjoyed the skyline bar on the Dream, and the Redfrog Pub on the Magic. It felt like both ships had something for different types of people. The kid's clubs on both ships did a good job of entertaining our kids for 40 minutes at a time. There was more to do on the Disney ship, but that's not necessarily a good thing, as that led to our kids jumping from one thing to another and then getting bored. The kid's club staff on each ship was great.

Despite the many negatives of the Magic, I would book another cruise on it in an instant. In fact, I am already looking into taking another cruise on it's sister ship, the Breeze, next summer. The real draw of the Carnival ships is the price. I was not able to enjoy my most previous Disney cruise because I was dumb enough to break down how much it cost per hour. If I did the same with the Carnival Magic, the cost is not nearly the same. The people on the islands don't care what ship you took to get there, or how much you spent on your stateroom. The Carnival Magic, to me, was like staying at Pop Century in order to enjoy the parks. There was some big downsides to it, some really good upsides to it, and overall it was a lot cheaper than staying at the Polynesian. My weeklong cruise on this ship completely changed my opinion of sailing on Carnival. I was almost glad to see some of the issues, as I knew the line was not perfect, and it made it easier to enjoy all the great parts of the ship.

Hi! I was wondering if there was pictures you'd like to share with us... And if you agreed that I put a link for your review in the first post?

I agree with you on so many things here...

I like how they enforce the washing of hands on DCL and wish they would do the same on Carnival. I know it doesn't prevent everything (and I saw many people on DCL refuse to do it) but it makes me feel more comfortable.

Regarding the non-dining room food. I also wish they had more flexible hours for Guy's Burger, Blue Iguana, etc and I have a feeling that they "simplified" the Lido menu because there are a lot of options elsewhere now...

Have you seen some of the shows on the Magic? I am very fond of their comedy shows and musical revues and was curious to know if you have seen some of it and what you thought about it?

EDIT: That issue with a/c is not acceptable. Glad you had a great host who really tried to make you more comfortable.
 
I'm not gonna lie: your comment hurt my feelings.

I have received permission from the mods to create this thread and keep it up & I have worked hard to put it up & I still work hard to keep it up to date and make sure I got my DCL info right as well (as I have sailed on DCL rather recently --in 2017-- and keep reading everything I see about DCL) and also make sure that everyone in here feels welcome to speak freely about their experiences and preferences.

Yes, this thread was started as a comparison thread and most people, when they come back from their Carnival cruises, still do comparisons with DCL ships... (Whenever they do and give me permission, I put every link in the first post.)

FYI, most of us are DCL fans and no matter where our preference go, DCL remain in our top choices.

I strongly believe that we all have our place here and that this thread also still has a place as well...

I can assure you hurting anyone's feelings was not my intent. At all. :flower3:

I am glad the thread was given permission, and I see you making posts often, so it's obvious you care about the thread. :cutie: I guess what I expected to see were mostly posts like the one Ben E N just posted, which is a very comprehensive Carnival vs. DCL post. So that makes sense to me.

To be honest, I had just glanced from time to time at this thread and seeing mostly various comments about Carnival, and upcoming cruises on Carnival, so I didn't really start reading a lot of it until today. My opinion is just that..... mine. Everyone has a right to their opinion, and that's what forums are all about, yes? :) I was simply expressing mine. I wish you the best and many happy sailings, regardless of which lines you choose! :sunny:
 
I find it kind of funny that while you were writing that comment, I was doing literally what you said was being done on this thread - comparing Disney cruises to Carnival ones.

Yes. What a coincidence!

And thank you so much for your detailed review. It is very much appreciated.

I strongly believe the informations and comparisons on this thread can help DCL lovers (who try something different) to know what to expect... And in some case, it might encourage them to upgrade their experience in certain areas to try to "match" (or compensate for) what they have with DCL and have a nice vacation.
 
I can assure you hurting anyone's feelings was not my intent. At all. :flower3:

I am glad the thread was given permission, and I see you making posts often, so it's obvious you care about the thread. :cutie: I guess what I expected to see were mostly posts like the one Ben E N just posted, which is a very comprehensive Carnival vs. DCL post. So that makes sense to me.

To be honest, I had just glanced from time to time at this thread and seeing mostly various comments about Carnival, and upcoming cruises on Carnival, so I didn't really start reading a lot of it until today. My opinion is just that..... mine. Everyone has a right to their opinion, and that's what forums are all about, yes? :) I was simply expressing mine. I wish you the best and many happy sailings, regardless of which lines you choose! :sunny:

I understand... (And thanks for your 2nd message).

A lot of people here are almost just as passionate about Carnival than they are with DCL so we tend to talk (and digress) about it a lot in between comparisons. We try to focus our thoughts and conversations about it in here, which is why there are so many pages.

We have hundreds of other threads to share our love of DCL so it may be more spread out but it is still there, trust me. :)
 
This thread is..... interesting. It was apparently started as a comparison thread (??), but seems to have morphed into a Carnival Cruise thread almost entirely. When folks are posting about upcoming deals, upcoming ships, etc., with NO comparison to DCL, it just feels like maybe this thread should move over to another forum. :flower3:

As PP have said, everyone has their own opinions and perspectives. And experiences can certainly vary one cruise to another. That's why there are LOTS of cruise lines out there! Something for everyone that wants to cruise, right? :cutie: I have no desire to cruise Cunard for example, but some folks probably love it. ::yes::

Guess what I'm trying to say is that those that really don't like DCL, are welcome to voice their opinion, but this IS the Disney Cruise Line forum.....
Nobody's forcing you to read it. Why do you care?
 
Seriously, cruiser21, aren't forums about opinions? :cutie: Including yours AND mine? I think so. :thumbsup2
Why would you post on a very pleasant thread that we shouldn't be talking about Carnival on DCL forum. The mods approved it and nobody's forcing you to read it. There's plenty of threads you can go to discuss how awesome you think DCL is.
 
Why would you post on a very pleasant thread that we shouldn't be talking about Carnival on DCL forum.

I think you would find it helpful to reread my post, cruiser21. At NO time did I say there should be no talking about Carnival on the DCL forums. My comment was an observation from my reading (today being the first time I did more than glance ) that the thread didn't appear to be much about "comparison" (which IS the title of the thread) but more a Carnival thread itself. Which seemed odd to me on a DCL forum. Have a nice evening. :goodvibes
 
I think you would find it helpful to reread my post, cruiser21. At NO time did I say there should be no talking about Carnival on the DCL forums. My comment was an observation from my reading (today being the first time I did more than glance ) that the thread didn't appear to be much about "comparison" (which IS the title of the thread) but more a Carnival thread itself. Which seemed odd to me on a DCL forum. Have a nice evening. :goodvibes
Find me a thread on the Disboards that's 119 pages long that hasn't gone off topic and I'll send you a hundred bucks. A DCL cruiser just wrote a long review of their Carnival cruise. The reviews still come in. They may be sporadic and there may be a lot of filler and discussing random things, but that is normal for a long thread on the disboards.
 
I think you would find it helpful to reread my post, cruiser21. At NO time did I say there should be no talking about Carnival on the DCL forums. My comment was an observation from my reading (today being the first time I did more than glance ) that the thread didn't appear to be much about "comparison" (which IS the title of the thread) but more a Carnival thread itself. Which seemed odd to me on a DCL forum. Have a nice evening. :goodvibes

Following your comments, I decided to rename the thread: "The discussion and comparison thread".
 
I just got back from a week on the Carnival Magic, completing an Eastern Caribbean cruise. Over spring break, I completed my second cruise on the Disney Dream, with both of them stopping at Nassau and Castaway Cay. It is worth mentioning that my family had this cruise paid for by my mother in law, and that we would have never sailed on Carnival if we were spending our own money. This is because of the perception of Carnival that we had going in to this past cruise. The Dream and the Magic are around the same size and age, so I figured a comparison would make sense here.

Embarkation - The Carnival one went much, much quicker. When boarding the Disney ship, we waited in a security line for 40 minutes, and then a check in line for another 20. By the time we had gotten through both, our boarding number had already been called. When boarding the Carnival ship, we breezed through check in and security. We ran into a minor hiccup when some teenager who was checking tickets didn't know how to process our children, but it was quickly fixed by a supervisor. The whole process from pulling into port to walking onto the ship took about 15 minutes.

Disembarkation - They seemed about the same to me. It's just hard to get thousands of people walking off of a ship and through customs, and I felt that both lines handled it the best they could.

Ship Layout - The Disney ship's layout made more sense to me. Everything flowed through the grand atrium and it's connected hallways. The Magic has dining rooms on the 3rd floor, but the galley was also there, cutting the floor into chunks. The only way to get from the front to the back easily is to go up to the 5th floor, where a lot of the nighttime entertainment spots are found. In order to walk through that deck, though, you have to walk through the casino, which allows smoking. After having to do that a couple of times, my family quickily memorized which elevator bank we had to go to in order to get to each section of the ship (dining room is in the middle, go to the middle elevator first, then go down. Coffee is towards the front, go to the front elevator, then down, and so on.) Once we had the layout figured out by night 3 or so, it was fine. The middle elevator section was really neat, as there were glass elevators overlooking the atrium on deck 3 all the way up to deck 11. It made that area of the ship feel very "grand".

Cleanliness - Disney gets a big win here. On the Disney ship, there were people actually in the bathrooms cleaning them as they were being used. There were people wiping down railings during the day. There were other people standing at the entrance of eateries almost forcing you to use hand sanitizer. The bathrooms on the Magic were never dirty, but they were more similar to one you may find at a restaurant, clean, but clearly used, with water on the floor, etc. The railings on the ship were sticky at points. Most upsetting was the hand sanitizer at meals. It could be found in dispensers attached to walls. A few people would use them from time to time, but many would not. The one in the back of the ship, by the pizza place, was not working when I tried to use it. I observed people swabbing decks between 6 and 7 in the morning, so the Magic was cleaned, just not as frequently as the Dream. The Magic was never dirty, but it was clear that some of the extra money people spend on Disney cruises does go towards hiring more cleaning staff.

Staterooms - This was by far the weakest point of the Carnival Magic. Despite being around the same age as the Dream, the Magic's rooms felt old and used, while the Dream's felt a lot more like hotel rooms. The best comparison I can give is that the Disney rooms felt like staying at a smaller version of a Disney hotel while the Carnival ones felt like staying at a Motel 6. Functional, but not something I wanted to take pictures of. There was a layer of grime on the balcony that grossed me out on the first day, but that I learned to just live with by the time the cruise was over. The sink in our room backed up. We reported this on our first afternoon, and nothing was done about it the whole week we were there. We had a major issue with air conditioning, which I will go into further detail about in the staffing section.

Staffing - Everybody I interacted with on the Disney ship seemed like they were in the customer service industry. Most of the people I dealt with on the Carnival ship seemed the same way. It felt like the lower level employees on both ships were very overworked. I felt like the ones on Carnival were trying to please customers almost against their bosses' wishes, though. When we made friends with bartenders, they would tell us about new drinks and encouraged us to try them based on our interests, but would have to pretend to make something different because they were being recorded as they worked. Our room on the first night was very, very warm and stuffy. I tried calling housekeeping, guest services, and even room service at about 10:00 that night. The only reason I tried so many people is because not a single one of them would answer the phone. The next morning we had to walk down to guest services, only to be told that as long as our room got down to 74 degrees, it was acceptable, whether we liked it our not. I thought that was pretty poor customer service. If I was asking for the room to get down to 58 degrees, of course I could understand, but the hardline set at 74 felt cheap to me. Luckily, my room steward knew the room slept hot and was able to remove the grate to our vent, increasing air flow. It felt like he was Mr. Incredible working for Insuricare, working to please customers against his bosses' wishes.
The dining staff on the Magic was much more fun and interactive in my opinion. This is taking nothing away from the Dream's staff, and comparing one dining staff on one cruise to just two staffs on the other line does not in any way make me an expert, but I thought it was worth sharing that opinion.

Food - Without a doubt, the food in Cabanas on the Dream was much better than the offerings in the Lido deck on the Magic. The food offerings at Cabanas were both solid and varied and I always found something I liked there. In the Lido marketplace, it was often the same food every day, and some of the items tasted like they had been sitting out for some time. I also thought that Cabanas was better thought out. It had many smaller stations, which broke up crowds. The Lido marketplace had 4 large serving stations, so during a rush it led to large lines. The Magic's other food offerings were better than the Dream's, though. They had a really good burrito place, a very popular burger place, as well as an Indian food stand and a smoked meat stand which were both very tasty. My only complaint about those places was their limited, and somewhat odd, hours. They were often only open from 12-2:30, even if the ship was docking at 11:45. This made many of those locations worthless if you planned on spending the day ashore.
The sit down restaurant on the Magic was much, much better than Disney's offerings. When I was on the Dream, I struggled to find any one dish at each meal that would excite me in any way. I remember the Cranberry salad at Animator's Palette being one, but then the rest of the meal was average at best. On the Magic, every item I ordered at every meal, with the exception of a total of one entree and one appetizer during the whole week, was exceptional. My wife, who typically does not get excited about food, agreed.
The dinnertime entertainment was also surprisingly more fun on the Carnival ships. As neat as it was to look at little Beast heads, or to see flowers open and close on the Dream, it was more entertaining to see waiters and dining guests get up and dance to "Can't stop the feeling". I never realized how stuffy the Dream's restaurants felt until I experienced my meals this past week.

Pools - I liked the Magic's pools better. It is worth noting that the adult only area on the Dream is much better than on the Magic. The pool with the swim up bar is much more fun than the few hot tubs and sunning deck found on the Magic. That did not bother us, though, as we had two children with us at all times. The Magic had 2 pools, a quiet one in the back of the ship, and a "party" one in the middle. This was comparable to the Dream's pools. The kid's water play area was much, much better on the Magic. It had two great water slides, buckets dumping on kids, water cannons, racing slides, and, most importantly, supervision by staff members. I hated that Nemo's Reef on the Dream because it was both difficult and necessary to supervise children there, and many people chose not to do so themselves.

Entertainment - Disney gets a big win here, but with a cost. It would be pretty impressive for somebody to top having guests watch Beauty and the Beast, and then having Goofy and Pluto giving out autographs after the show. I actually preferred my evenings on the Magic, though, because of the lower level entertainment. On the Dream, we felt such pressure to make dinner by 5:45 so that we could get seated and then go to the 8:00 show. While it was worthwhile on some nights, it left us feeling too pressured on others. With the entertainment on the Magic not being a constraining factor, we were able to enjoy the anytime dining. If our kids were up from nap early, we ate early. If they were tired, we slept late. It felt much more like a vacation. After dinner on the Magic, we would either go up to the pool deck and catch the end of a movie, enjoying the free popcorn, or we would drop the kids off and at kids club and my wife and I would enjoy one of the many bars on the ship.
The bars on both the Dream and the Magic are pretty on par with each other. I really enjoyed the skyline bar on the Dream, and the Redfrog Pub on the Magic. It felt like both ships had something for different types of people. The kid's clubs on both ships did a good job of entertaining our kids for 40 minutes at a time. There was more to do on the Disney ship, but that's not necessarily a good thing, as that led to our kids jumping from one thing to another and then getting bored. The kid's club staff on each ship was great.

Despite the many negatives of the Magic, I would book another cruise on it in an instant. In fact, I am already looking into taking another cruise on it's sister ship, the Breeze, next summer. The real draw of the Carnival ships is the price. I was not able to enjoy my most previous Disney cruise because I was dumb enough to break down how much it cost per hour. If I did the same with the Carnival Magic, the cost is not nearly the same. The people on the islands don't care what ship you took to get there, or how much you spent on your stateroom. The Carnival Magic, to me, was like staying at Pop Century in order to enjoy the parks. There was some big downsides to it, some really good upsides to it, and overall it was a lot cheaper than staying at the Polynesian. Both ships take you to islands, which is the real draw of a cruise, just as both hotels get you to the theme parks. My weeklong cruise on this ship completely changed my opinion of sailing on Carnival. I was almost glad to see some of the issues, as I knew the line was not perfect, and it made it easier to enjoy all the great parts of the ship.

Great review.

I find it funny that people always mention the lack of push of hand sanitizers on Carnival; whatever cleaning they do must work because - given the size of their fleet - they have relatively few Norovirus outbreaks. In fact, per capita of cruisers, they have a better record than DCL (because it's like 23 ships versus 4 ships).

We like to sit and watch the ocean go by or talk amongst ourselves frequently throughout the day and sometime at night - we have seen the cleaners "doing their thing" on Carnival a lot - they wipe down everything! And constantly.
 
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