Canon S3

Ever have one of those nights/days where you take a ton of photos and you think you are really nailing them with exposure, etc. only to come home and find that they all basically suck? Yep, that was my evening. I took over 100 photos and I got one that is OK. Here it is. I don't even like it due to the fact that the lighting is a bit poor and I had to crop it to look good. If everyone has been reading the photo assignment thread, you know how I feel about photoshop and cropping! :mad:

Andy
Ansel Adams said if he got 1 good shot a month, it was a good month.... so don't stress too much about it.
 
Ansel Adams said if he got 1 good shot a month, it was a good month.... so don't stress too much about it.

Nope, I'm not stressing about it. Just get a little bummed sometimes when they don't come out as planned. I'm just happy to be able to be outside trying! :cool1:

Andy
 
Back onto the OP...

If this firmware extension allows the S3 to store RAW files, does all software recognize these files.

The reason I ask is whenever a new camera comes out there is very little software(IE PHOTOSHOP) compatable with these files, usually it takes a few months for the software makers to issue an update to make the files compatable.

Has anyone tried it? What is the word on the forums?

I am considering picking up an S3 if this is not an issue.
 
I finally got around to uploading my pics....please look at these adn tell me what I am doing right or wrong...

These were all on Auto setting

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Taken at night watching DS pitch- blurry I know LOL

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During bright sunlight

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ALso in bright sunlight

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Taken at dusk

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My first attempt at Macro


Why are the pics so big????
 

I finally got around to uploading my pics....please look at these adn tell me what I am doing right or wrong...

These were all on Auto setting

Taken at night watching DS pitch- blurry I know LOL
This one was probably lower light and, if I were to guess, at the highest magnification (12x optical + 4x digital). That is a recipe for disaster with these cameras. I would suggest a tripod for better shots and to try different settings. Get away from Auto settings during these times. Keep your ISO set as low as possible, shutter speed as fast as possible, aperture as wide open as possible. In my testing, you can get a better shot than this, but nothing that will be super.

My first attempt at Macro

Great job! Nice focus and lighting for macro.

Why are the pics so big????

When you upload to photobucket, be sure to click where it says "max image size" in small letters above where you choose your pics to be uploaded. This will allow you to have photobucket resize them. A good max size is 800X600 (15" monitor) but a bit smaller is ok too.


Andy
 
If this firmware extension allows the S3 to store RAW files, does all software recognize these files.

I believe it works directly with some programs, and for others you use a converter ... here's a site that describes working with the RAW hack part of the entire firmware extension: http://digicanon.narod.ru/ (scroll down to: How-To convert RAW shots to dng).

Has anyone tried it? What is the word on the forums?

Guys on the other thread, listed above -- Keoeeit, especially -- have worked with the RAW output.

Here's one of his posts from that thread about it: Keoeeit, RAW Discussion
 
Another shot of the moon:
moon3.jpg


I know that this isn't the greatest moon pic, but what I do think is fairly impressive is how I took it.

Hand-held in plain ol' P mode; no setting changes except for Spot metering, Manual Focus to infinity! No tripod or Manual settings; I basically just pointed it up at the moon and clicked the shutter button!

I love this little camera! :goodvibes

For those interested, these are the settings that the camera chose:
Tv: 1/160
Av: 3.5
ISO: 100

denise5374: Beautiful job on the macro! I think AndrewWG is right on about the other pics....
 
For those interested, these are the settings that the camera chose:
Tv: 1/160
Av: 3.5
ISO: 100
:rolleyes1 Got sick of me asking didn't you?:rotfl: Just kiddin' - thanks!


I finally have some to share - uploading to shutterfly now :goodvibes
 
Stitch, you don't even want to see my moon picture. It's horrible. :(

I've had my camera out every day and I don't have much decent to show for it. Seems the "better" I think I get at using it, the worse my pictures are coming out. I'm frustrated. :headache:

ETA: This should have been a beautiful shot. There were two types of trees framing the moon. This was the "best" of the lot.

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File size: 15391 bytes
File date: 2007:04:25 07:53:01
Camera make: Canon
Camera model: Canon PowerShot S3 IS
Date/Time: 2007:04:22 21:17:25
Resolution: 640 x 480
Flash used: No
Focal length: 6.0mm (35mm equivalent: 38mm)
CCD width: 5.72mm
Exposure time: 1.000 s
Aperture: f/2.7
Whitebalance: Auto
Metering Mode: matrix
 
Back onto the OP...

If this firmware extension allows the S3 to store RAW files, does all software recognize these files.

The reason I ask is whenever a new camera comes out there is very little software(IE PHOTOSHOP) compatable with these files, usually it takes a few months for the software makers to issue an update to make the files compatable.

Has anyone tried it? What is the word on the forums?

I am considering picking up an S3 if this is not an issue.


If you are considering the S3 just b/c the firmware extension allows RAW, you might want to keep your options open. When I read about something similar for the S2, using the RAW setting caused a six second or longer delay before taking the next picture. Remember that the buffer on these cameras was designed with smaller JPGs in mind, so RAW saving takes longer than on a camera designed for RAW. Has anyone tried the RAW feature out yet?

Kevin
 
Pea-I know how you feel. It can be very frustrating. I have taken almost 2000 pics since I got my S3, right before Christmas, and I have only a hndful that are good. It seems like most of the stuff I want to take pics of the camera isn't good at, indoor basketball shots, nighttime sports shots......(see the pics above)

Andy-So it is really not possible to take a good shot at night???Of baseball, I mean??

Stitch-Nice shot of the moon.

i think my pronbelm is, is that I don't know enough about photography to use the manual settings, like what the different apeture, shutter speeds mean.....Anyone have a good website that can explain it to me???
 
Denise, I think some of the posters here have shown us that the camera is capable of some pretty great stuff - including in low light and action shots. To me, it's a matter of learning to use it to its fullest capacity within the type of setting you're in. I simply don't have a good feel for it yet. Something always seems to be not quite right. :rolleyes: Like I (or someone else) hits the back button accidentally and the ISO is too high and pictures are grainy. Or heads are cut off. Or macro pictures are blurry. I just don't know what I'm doing wrong each and every time. :confused3 I'm not exactly dumb when it comes to technology. But somehow this is escaping me. I printed up all the website instructions linked in posts 118 tho I must admit I haven't gotten to read them yet (just started home renovations) and I have to send for the book and CD linked in post 120 - maybe seeing it in action will help. I really wish I took a photography class in high school so this would be more second nature.

I have a question for anyone who can answer: when in Tv, Av or M mode, how do you change the ISO and such from there? I also don't "get" how you use manual on this camera. I have more reading and practicing to do. :coffee:
 
These didn't come out half bad, but I was actually out trying to get some spring shots of something, well, spring-y. I took these as kind of an aside.

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Denise, I have a few baseball shots but none in low light, the action ones came out ok but I have to crop before I post. Have you tried using the sports mode and the shutter priority mode Tv - those capture action quicker. You could also use M and increase the ISO (on back) only as much as you need to, I think. Try a bunch of different things and see how they come out. If you follow the links listed in post 118, look up the camera and they list instructions for use. A little tricky to find, but search and you'll come up with a lot of info.
 
Has anyone tried the RAW feature out yet?

I don't have anything good to test PPing one of these RAW files; but as far as taking them, it only adds about an extra second to the overall time of taking the pic (under normal light conditions).

File sizes:
The JPG file is: 1,263 KB
The CRW file is: 7,531 KB
 
I don't have anything good to test PPing one of these RAW files; but as far as taking them, it only adds about an extra second to the overall time of taking the pic (under normal light conditions).

File sizes:
The JPG file is: 1,263 KB
The CRW file is: 7,531 KB

That is much better performance than what I read about the S2.

You can download trial versions of many different RAW converters and there are even a few that are completely free. You might even be able to download a version of Canon's from the support page of a newer model that shoots in RAW.

Kevin
 
The best on-line resource for learning about manual settings I've found is this one: http://www.goingmanual.com/photo/

Pea-n-me: I'm not sure how to get a decent moon photo with anything else in the scene ... to actually get the moon in focus you need to manually run the focus to infinity, which means anything in the foreground is going to look really out of focus. My own attempts, when there were branches in the way, looked pretty bad....

denise5374: low-light AND sports are a tough mix ... probably the hardest subject matter for a camera like the S3. It just doesn't have the noise-free high ISO (1600+) that you need for this type of photo ... it's what DSLRs are for! :) The best you can do with the S3 is switch to manual mode; wide apertures (small numbers), ISO as high as you can stand the noise (400 is still pretty good but 800 is almost useless without noise-reduction PP software).

Pea-n-me: I have a question for anyone who can answer: when in Tv, Av or M mode, how do you change the ISO and such from there? I also don't "get" how you use manual on this camera. I have more reading and practicing to do.

1st question: in all of the "creative" modes (P, Av, Tv, M, C), adjust the ISO with the ISO button (second down along-side the LCD). Each click takes it one stop and cycles through all available settings before going back to Auto.

Getting Manual: set the aperture with the up-down on the omni-selector. set the shutter speed with the left-right on the omni-selector.

Controlling the exposure is the "heart" of photography ... ensuring that the "right" amount of light reaches the sensor (or film). Aperture, Shutter Speed and ISO are how you control the amount of light getting into your camera.

Aperture
Small aperture numbers means a "bigger hole" which means more light. The smaller the aperture value, the shallower the DOF, too; which gets you the nice background blur you see in good portraits. The larger the aperture, value the deeper the DOF; allowing objects to be in focus in front and behind your subject.

Shutter Speed
Shutter speed is what controls how long the shutter is open. The longer it's open, the more light you get. It's why you need to set shutter speeds in the 1 sec. to 15 sec. range to get a nice picture at night while in full daylight you need to see it to 1/1000sec.

ISO
ISO is sort of a "measure" of the sensitivity of the sensor (or film). Each stop lets in (generally speaking) twice as much light as the previous 100, 200, 400, 800 (doubling the amount of light, each time).

By manipulating the settings, you get the correct exposure. Need more light? Slow down the shutter or increase the aperture (smaller number) or up the ISO. Need less light? Speed up the shutter, decrease the aperture (bigger number) or lower the ISO.

The S3 (in Manual mode) will tell you what it "thinks" your exposure settings by displaying a little number in the corner of the EVF. 0 means "standard" or what the camera would think of as a good exposure. +2 is very overexposed (too much light) -2 is very underexposed (too little light). If they turn red, they're even worse than +2/-2. Smaller values let you know how close to "optimal" you are....

Does this help?
 
That is much better performance than what I read about the S2.

You can download trial versions of many different RAW converters and there are even a few that are completely free. You might even be able to download a version of Canon's from the support page of a newer model that shoots in RAW.

I have one called UFRaw ... but, I admit, I just don't know enough about PPing RAW files to make heads-or-tails of it, yet.

FWIW, UFRaw does open and display the CRW files that the hack generates and they look good (to me).
 
Stitch-Thanks for the explanations. I now just need to commit it to memory LOL

What part of central PA are you in?(if you don't mind answering) My DHis from sout central PA and we both went to college in Millersville, my Dad's family is in York and the surrounding areas. I am currently in the suburbs of Philly, Montgomery County.
 
Denise,

What Stitch said above about sports photography is what I would say as well. I would note that it is not impossible to get a "good" shot, but most likely quite difficult to get a "great" shot under those conditions. Getting a faster shutter speed for those shots is important, but then you need a wider aperture to let in more light. These are simply not the situations that these cameras are designed for, unfortunately. Most photos come out dark or grainy looking.

However, if it is your son that you are photographing, it would be my suggestion to go with the darker grainier photos and keep on shooting. You will get a good one from time to time. I have very few photos of when I played sports as a kid and I know that he will appreciate even a semi-good photo versus no photos when he grows up.

Andy
 












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