Canon 50D

I would say that is in direct response to the Nikon D300, which I feel like caught Canon off guard. They probably brought this to market ASAP.
 
Very curious to see what the low level light shooting is like with the ISO 12800.
 
i figured it was coming soon...gotta figure there is some reason they are offering rebates on the new model( 40d):rotfl:
 

I would say that is in direct response to the Nikon D300, which I feel like caught Canon off guard. They probably brought this to market ASAP.

ita with this. truthfully while the iso is cool, i'm not sure how much i'd use it . i do wonder how much faster the new processor is. the other stuff didn't impress me that much, not enough to warrant the money from the 40d...which hopefully will go way down now;)
 
This really makes me wonder about how relevant a new 5D would be now. The gap between a 50D and 1Ds MKIII is not that great (in MP), leaving little room for a 5D. Of course it is not all about MP but a 5D could not be easily marketed with less MP than a 50D, nor almost as many as a 1Ds.
 
I would think that of equal interest to Canon drivers would be the 50D's kit lens, the 18-200 IS. Nikon's lock on DSLR superzoom territory is fast disappearing, with this lens and similar third party glass.

~Y
 
I saw that it will be released in October. Anyone see anything about the price?

And why would the new camera be slower? 6.3 fps vs 6.5 fps for the 40d.
 
Larger files, they have to balance speed with buffer and price.

but 6.3 is still really good.

You're right, 6.3 is still very good. But when my pictures don't turn out, I like to shift the blame from my lack of talent to equipment deficiencies. So if that missing 0.2 fps makes me loose a shot, its not my fault, right? :thumbsup2
 
You're right, 6.3 is still very good. But when my pictures don't turn out, I like to shift the blame from my lack of talent to equipment deficiencies. So if that missing 0.2 fps makes me loose a shot, its not my fault, right? :thumbsup2

Gotcha, and I will write that down for future reference just in case I miss a shot.
 
I am really interested in how it will be as far as noise? I have been coveting a full frame sensor for that reason.

Does anyone have any information to enlighten me? Am I totally wrong in thinking that the full frame gives less noise in low light situations?

I am looking to upgrade within a year - but not sure if I want to go with the new 50D or hold out for a 5D upgrade.

I had also heard something about Canon coming out with a 3D and or 6D - one of which was supposed to be inbetween the 5D and Mark. Not sure how true any of it is - just something I read on a site - can't even remember which one it was.
 
The two features that would turn my head are the 3" LCD and the Remote Live View. I have real trouble seeing the 2.5" LCD on my 30D so these items would be of great benefit. Studio work and live view on the PC. Now that's sweet. (I hate my eyes)
 
The thing I am most interested in seeing about this new camera (especially since this is the level of camera I will be upgrading to next) is how its low-light capabilities at high ISOs are. If it can close to what Nikon is doing as far as noise goes, I will be incredibly happy. I wouldn't mind seeing a another frame or two per second though...
 
Since no one mentioned it: a wider spread and more frames for bracketing would have been nice. Also more of a focus on dynamic range instead of more pixels. It's possible the new microlenses will increase DR but since Canon did not make a point of it I would not count on it.

Anyway, I usually skip generations (D30, 10D, 30D) so the 50D may find a home here.
 
I am really interested in how it will be as far as noise? I have been coveting a full frame sensor for that reason.

Does anyone have any information to enlighten me? Am I totally wrong in thinking that the full frame gives less noise in low light situations?
You're right, given similar megapixel numbers. The Nikon D700/D3 have probably a good two extra stops of usable ISOs over the D300 because they are larger sensors but still only 12mp.

Samsung came up with a way to minimize the spaces between the photosites in the sensors and was able to make a 14.6mp sensor (as used in the Pentax K20D) that has the same size photosites as a 12mp sensor, hence its similar ISO performance to the D300 sensor. I can only assume that Canon used similar tricks with their 15mp sensor. It'll be interesting to see what people say about their cheaper lenses - at that kind of mp level, you can really notice the difference between a cheap lens and a really good one.

Now, if you're looking at a FF sensor that has way more pixels, then you probably won't get that much extra noise performance.

IMHO, the FF lust that infects some people is mostly psychological. APS sensors are capturing levels of detail and low noise levels that are pretty amazing nowadays - FF means larger and heavier (to say nothing of more expensive) cameras, some of which can do higher levels of ISOs - but at what point do you really need more ISO performance? Quality 3200 ISO performance is pretty much a given on the latest DSLRs. One big advantage is that it's easier to do very wide shooting since you don't have the crop factor to worry about. On the other hand, telephoto shooting means that you'll need bigger and heavier lenses to match what you can do on a crop-sensor camera.
 
You're right, given similar megapixel numbers. The Nikon D700/D3 have probably a good two extra stops of usable ISOs over the D300 because they are larger sensors but still only 12mp.

Samsung came up with a way to minimize the spaces between the photosites in the sensors and was able to make a 14.6mp sensor (as used in the Pentax K20D) that has the same size photosites as a 12mp sensor, hence its similar ISO performance to the D300 sensor. I can only assume that Canon used similar tricks with their 15mp sensor. It'll be interesting to see what people say about their cheaper lenses - at that kind of mp level, you can really notice the difference between a cheap lens and a really good one.

Now, if you're looking at a FF sensor that has way more pixels, then you probably won't get that much extra noise performance.

IMHO, the FF lust that infects some people is mostly psychological. APS sensors are capturing levels of detail and low noise levels that are pretty amazing nowadays - FF means larger and heavier (to say nothing of more expensive) cameras, some of which can do higher levels of ISOs - but at what point do you really need more ISO performance? Quality 3200 ISO performance is pretty much a given on the latest DSLRs. One big advantage is that it's easier to do very wide shooting since you don't have the crop factor to worry about. On the other hand, telephoto shooting means that you'll need bigger and heavier lenses to match what you can do on a crop-sensor camera.

The full frame lust, as you call it, has a lot to do with the lens quality issue that you mentioned. A full frame camera doesn't require near the same resolving power in a lens. It's not just resolution that matters as well. With an APS-C camera, you are magnifying all lens defects that much more.

I do like to stress, however, that there is nothing magic, special, or proper about "full" frame. It's just a bigger size. Bigger, all other things equal, is better. The nice thing about full frame is that all of my lenses (and almost all of the best lenses still made today) are designed for it.
 


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