Can you handle the truth about 9/11 ?

[Dan Murphy]

Originally posted by Truth
......as long as the DIS sees fit to allow people banned to return, closing threads where these people have fixated seems to be the better option where no good choices exist.......

Now, there is truth to that, for sure.

Originally posted by Teejay32
I hate that discussions about 9/11 are starting to have the same undertones as Jehovah's witnessing or New Age-ism or Scientology. It's creepy. For the Truth, go see this Movie, buy this Book, Read the Koran...

Very truthful, Tee.

 

[Nancy]

I thought truth was the whole point of the 9/11 commission. If it wasn't then why did they waste the taxpayers money holding all those hearings?

I am satisfied that I know the truth from hearing the reports from the hearings.

As for other peoples believes in the truth and what happened or lack of what happened on 9/11...that is for them to decide. We all have to live within our own believes...I have mine and others have theirs.

The only person who knows the full and actual truth from any situation in life is the person themself and God.

 

[Big Dude]

1 John 20-23

20 But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth.
21 I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth.
22 Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist--he denies the Father and the Son.
23 No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

And there you have it.

Adam aka Big Dude

 

[Truth]

Originally posted by jrydberg

By the way, I think people have access to an extraordinary amount of information regarding the events of September 11th, 2001.

The volume of information available is not the question here. The willingness of people to consider and discuss it's validity as well as questions the information brings up
which many officials are not willing to ask let alone answer.

You seem to think that your posts consist mainly of objective truths. Yet it seems obvious to me that they are laden with opinion and subjective assessments (as are mine, incidentally).

Truth is more than willing to discuss any points that you feel are less than accurate in a mutual open minded search for the truth.

But I'm not suggesting that those who disagree with me are ignorant. You are. Is that in keeping with "friendly" debate guidelines?

It is easy to understand how insecure people could conclude that about someone that suggests that another person or people in general are not aware or are not enlightened about certain subject material.

There have been several attempts to show that the masses are not to be faulted for their lack of knowledge but that does not change the fact that the truth about what took place on 9/11 has yet to be discovered and the amount of information necessary to draw any valid conclusions takes more time and effort than many people are able to devote to it.
Not many people are aware of the implications of
Dark matter or energy, but if that means you think Truth is calling these people ignorant or that Truth knows what Dark energy is, you seem to be the one that does not understand.

 

[Nebsky]

Ahhh....The mark of intelligence.

Why thank you for your comments/opinion of my post.

Its my opinion of the man. His version of the truth and mine are totally different. I do not force my truth onto others. If someone asks me, Ill let them know that it my personal belief. MM just happens to have alot more money than I do and therefore able to get "his" truth out to the masses.

As far as the apostrophes, yes you are correct. They should have them on there. When there is a spell check on the disboards, Ill use it. If you dont like the way I write, please feel free to put me on your ignore list.

 

[jrydberg]

Great, more insults. Now we've moved on to insecurity. Very mature

But more to the point, ignorance, by it's very definition means unaware or uninformed -- which is precisely how you describe those who disagree with you on this particular subject. Whether you use the term or not, you are calling them ignorant.

I understand perfectly.

 

[Truth]

Originally posted by Nancy
I thought truth was the whole point of the 9/11 commission. If it wasn't then why did they waste the taxpayers money holding all those hearings?

No the point of the 9/11 commission seems to do what you now are saying it did. Answer all the questions to your statisfaction.

There were many questions that the relatives wanted the commission to ask but the commission did not ask those questions.

One stark example was on the very last day with people in the gallery begging and pleading for the commission to ask about the War games being conducted the morning of 9/11 that had as there objective practice on what to do if several Jet Airliners were hijacked at once by terrorists.

But the commission was not willing to ask about it.

There are many questions the relatives wanted asked, it is one thing to not get answers but what is gained by not allowing the question ?

 

[Truth]

Originally posted by jrydberg
Great, more insults. Now we've moved on to insecurity. Very mature

But more to the point, ignorance, by it's very definition means unaware or uninformed -- which is precisely how you describe those who disagree with you on this particular subject. Whether you use the term or not, you are calling them ignorant.

I understand perfectly.

If you are not capable of discerning the difference between name calling and suggesting that some people could benefit from more information about a topic before commenting on it that is unfortunate.

Truth will note your vote as being "
truth is not worth making other people uncomfortable"

 

[Indyman]

I'd rather have the facts, not someone else's "truth".

 

[jrydberg]

I'm capable of a good bit more than you seem to give me credit for. But fear not, I don't particularly care what you call me.

Your whole line of argument here is rather amusing. You circle the main issue, all the while tossing out little barbs and never addressing the main point.

Frankly, it's difficult to take someone seriously when the crux of their argument is centered around petty insults. Whether you intend it to be insulting or not, you are very clear in your belief that those who disagree with you do so out of lack of information. That is insulting.

Don't assume anything about my vote, please.
I want no part of your charade. Good day.

 

[Jimbo]

Originally posted by MMouse
Ahhh....The mark of intelligence.

Speaking of truth...haven't, won't, and don't use apostrophes.

Ahh, a spelling flame. The mark of ???

 

[Nancy]

Originally posted by Truth
No the point of the 9/11 commission seems to do what you now are saying it did. Answer all the questions to your statisfaction.

But the commission did answer all tmy questions to my satisfaction so I am ok with them.. If they didn't answer someone else's questions there isn't oo much I can do about it.

As In said.....as for what others believe is the truth or lack of truth in what happened that day, they have their believes, I have mine.

I am satisfied.

I am also done. You can't debate with someone who only wants to see and hear their own version of the truth and can't seem fit to understand when someone else has another viewpoint.

 

[Lanshark]

People present and search for the truth through their own biases. Was the 9/11 commission really looking for the truth as to avoid another tradegy or were they attempting to cast blame? Maybe a little of both.

I always prefer the facts given to me without commentary, interpretation or innuendo. Unless I do the research myself there aren't many places to find the unadulterated Truth from my own perspective.

 

[Truth]

Originally posted by Nancy
But the commission did answer all my questions to my satisfaction so I am ok with them.. If they didn't answer someone else's questions there isn't much I can do about it.

As In said.....as for what others believe is the truth or lack of truth in what happened that day, they have their believes, I have mine.

I am satisfied.

I am also done. You can't debate with someone who only wants to see and hear their own version of the truth and can't seem fit to understand when someone else has another viewpoint.

You are satisfied with your version of what happened on 9/11. Understood. The question here is
not a debate about anything.
If the truth about 9/11 was available to you would be interested if it did not agree with your version ?

It was and remains still the topic of this thread.

What happened on 9/11 is not what's being asked here.
The goal of this thread is to get some idea of how willing people are to search for the truth if the search or it's results are going to upset them.

 

[minniepumpernickel]

Originally posted by Jimbo
I thought we were talking about the truth?

I don't know what you consider truth or false, so how can I answer? Please elaborate a little bit.

 

[minniepumpernickel]

Originally posted by Truth
minniepumpernickel,

Closed threads ? Please specify.
Edit to add that upon checking it appears one thread that had long since ceased to have anything to do with the orginal topic purposed has been mercifully closed. While this is not what Truth would avocate (closing a thread) as long as the DIS sees fit to allow people banned to return, closing threads where these people have fixated seems to be the better option where no good choices exist.

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In a way closing the thread makes people fixate more. I thought that several of your threads had been closed, maybe I'm wrong. When a thread is closed someone usually starts the topic again in a new thread, and then we all say the same things over again.


Do you still hold chat sessions like you used to?

 

[gina2000]

The further you are from the event in question, the more elusive truth becomes. Also, the greater the speculation becomes.

I appreciate the truth. I have my doubts, however, that truth is absolute and unchanging.

 

[Van Helsing]

The Truth always comes out in the END

 

[Van Helsing]

The Truth always comes out in the END

 

[AirForceRocks]

Originally posted by gina2000
The further you are from the event in question, the more elusive truth becomes. Also, the greater the speculation becomes.

I appreciate the truth. I have my doubts, however, that truth is absolute and unchanging.

ITA!!!

My whole thing with the 9/11 commission was bring out the truth, and let the chips fall where they may. I look forward to reading the commission's report in its entirety, and make my judgments from there.

But there are so many things that people (on both sides of the political aisle) call truth, but is really nothing more than their interpretation of facts.