Can what you say online have real world consequences?

[wilkeliza]

I have this conversation with my kids all the time, especially the teenager. Recently the school had the police in to talk about the legal stuff to the high schoolers - how even if they don't open a (for example) nude picture they've been sent (without owners permission) they can still be prosecuted for having it on their phone, and stuff like that.

nb/ this doesn't include baby pictures, but pictures of their peers etc.

As for me. My FB page is pretty private unless I want something public. My twitter isn't private but I don't tweet anything I wouldn't want my kids to read, I'm sassy but never abusive. I don't do forums apart from this one and Tripadvisor, never had points from TA and it's been at least 12 months since I had points here.

That is a little extreme to tell kids that even if they don't open something with a nude photo in it they can be persecuted. I don't think that is legal at all. As a lady online I get more d picks than I ever care for especially being engaged but I'm not the one breaking the law if all I do is delete it with out sending it to someone else or saving it.

 

[NFLDERS]

How much more proof do you need, but I am sure, laws are going to be written soon dealing with online opinions.

My biggest concern, is photographers that post newborn babies pictures online and they are naked. Sure their private parts are not shown, but their chests are. In today's world, it shouldn't be allowed. There are 2 sisters that are photographers in my hometown and they post these pictures on Facebook. I report them to Facebook every time I see one.

I liked your first sentence but then removed my like, because as I read other pp's responses to the rest of the post; I thought about this more, I'm now more in agreement with their line of thought.

 

[OhMari]

I'm confused. You keep changing your story. First it was showing the chests of babies. Then that they were naked but you don't see below their waists. Now they're "hunched on their knees", in which case you can't see their chests. If you can't see below the waist, how do you know there's no diaper? And you still haven't explained what you report them to FB for? Because it's a "private" picture? What does that mean? How does that violate ANY laws or regulations?

I am friends with 2 sisters that started a photography business. They mainly do babies and out door family photo's. They post pictures of babies to give people sneak peaks of the sessions, to drum up more business for themselves.

I guess I am going to step away from this conversation. I clearly am in the wrong feeling it is not right for them to post the pictures of the sleeping naked infant photo's in different poses on social media.

 

[sunshinehighway]

I'd just like to point out that naked babies are often used in advertising, especially baby products. One example would be Pampers.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Kinda related to all the posts about Facebook..
I was watching shark tank.
There is a company that will scrub all your posts. Facebook ,twitter, blogs. Etc
What they do is bury your dirt at the bottom of the search..
SO! If I worked for HR I'd start there

Ohhh now that is interesting to learn...I'll have to look into that

 

[wilkeliza]

Ohhh now that is interesting to learn...I'll have to look into that

You can scrub yourself. A lot of people do it. I tried to do it and had done it pretty well until my fiance's mom opened a restaurant and thought it would be great to have a flashy celebrity filled opening. Now I no longer am on the fourth or fifth page of google. sigh. The best thing to do is turn your facebook, twitter, and all social media to not being shared on search engines. That way unless someone is maliciously taking your information and screen gabbing it then uploading it somewhere else and tagging your name on it nothing from your social media will show up online searching. I also have my Facebook set that only friends can see 99% of my posts. So if any employer breaks that privacy setting to see something I know it is not an employer I would want to work for anyways.

I personally don't believe your political standings on Facebook of all places should matter in your employment if you are doing your job. I shouldn't be worried about my employment when I call out a true injustice. I guess I can understand if you only use propaganda as your basis or call for violence etc but just like I want to be able to freely say I think something is wrong I don't think others shouldn't be able to say it. We can disagree about it as well but if no one is violent in their views than we should both be able to co-exsist even in a work space as long as it doesn't seep into work efficiency and the team.

 

[wenrob]

I find the person someone is behind the computer or when they're drinking is the person they really are. The other side if them is the censored side they use to mask their true feelings.

As for the other topic so many people are hung up on, it's been beaten to death & wasn't a question in the first place. This could be a good topic to discuss, if people would get back to the original question rather than beating a non-question to death. Perhaps, some of you so hung up on baby pictures could start a new thread instead of cluttering this one.

It does relate to the topic though. Reporting a photographer's photos impacts their business. When someone is reported thing are locked up until the matter is cleared up. A photographer's business is mostly driven by word of mouth/social media and most of them are paying for a business page. If their account is locked up they can't utilize that and lose potential business. It also has an impact on the clients who've paid 100's of dollars for portraits that they now cannot share digitally because usually the link is provided by the photographer who's account is now locked up. So, yes, saying doing something on social media can and does have real world consequences.

 

[sunshinehighway]

You can scrub yourself. A lot of people do it. I tried to do it and had done it pretty well until my fiance's mom opened a restaurant and thought it would be great to have a flashy celebrity filled opening. Now I no longer am on the fourth or fifth page of google. sigh. The best thing to do is turn your facebook, twitter, and all social media to not being shared on search engines. That way unless someone is maliciously taking your information and screen gabbing it then uploading it somewhere else and tagging your name on it nothing from your social media will show up online searching. I also have my Facebook set that only friends can see 99% of my posts. So if any employer breaks that privacy setting to see something I know it is not an employer I would want to work for anyways.

I personally don't believe your political standings on Facebook of all places should matter in your employment if you are doing your job. I shouldn't be worried about my employment when I call out a true injustice. I guess I can understand if you only use propaganda as your basis or call for violence etc but just like I want to be able to freely say I think something is wrong I don't think others shouldn't be able to say it. We can disagree about it as well but if no one is violent in their views than we should both be able to co-exsist even in a work space as long as it doesn't seep into work efficiency and the team.

Sure, your politics shouldn't but being racist, sexist, homophobic, bigoted, just a vulgar person, isn't really about your politics.

 

[sam_gordon]

I guess I am going to step away from this conversation. I clearly am in the wrong feeling it is not right for them to post the pictures of the sleeping naked infant photo's in different poses on social media.

I'm sorry you're backing off. We are just trying to understand WHAT you feel is "not right" about the pictures. It's not even that you think it's not right, but that you report them to FB. What do you report them for?

 

[wilkeliza]

Sure, your politics shouldn't but being racist, sexist, homophobic, bigoted, just a vulgar person, isn't really about your politics.

That is true that is why I tried to say there of course is a line but some people just said posting too much political stuff and that is what I was speaking about. I know people on both sides that very passionately post their opinions and again I don't believe either should have their employment suffer over that. Neither of the groups I know would actually hurt a fly or treat an employee, coworker, or customer different for their religion, race, sex, or sexual identity but they both have strong opinions in politics. It is kind of like how I don't think my opinion on Israel and Palestine as a Jew should be called into question anywhere to be honest but currently right now in my liberal circle of friends it is being and not to have a conversation but rather to judge if I am "right" and thus okay to be in the group.

 

[DaisyJ]

I have this conversation with my kids all the time, especially the teenager. Recently the school had the police in to talk about the legal stuff to the high schoolers - how even if they don't open a (for example) nude picture they've been sent (without owners permission) they can still be prosecuted for having it on their phone, and stuff like that.

nb/ this doesn't include baby pictures, but pictures of their peers etc.

As for me. My FB page is pretty private unless I want something public. My twitter isn't private but I don't tweet anything I wouldn't want my kids to read, I'm sassy but never abusive. I don't do forums apart from this one and Tripadvisor, never had points from TA and it's been at least 12 months since I had points here.

The only thing you see on my facebook page is my profile picture if you aren't a friend. NOTHING on my page is public ~ ever. My twitter is public, but that is only because I use it to read and follow people, not actually tweet. lol

 

[tarheelmjfan]

It does relate to the topic though. Reporting a photographer's photos impacts their business. When someone is reported thing are locked up until the matter is cleared up. A photographer's business is mostly driven by word of mouth/social media and most of them are paying for a business page. If their account is locked up they can't utilize that and lose potential business. It also has an impact on the clients who've paid 100's of dollars for portraits that they now cannot share digitally because usually the link is provided by the photographer who's account is now locked up. So, yes, saying doing something on social media can and does have real world consequences.

I think the PP got the message several posts ago. At this point, it's become nothing more than a pile-on party & has detracted from the topic as a whole. This is a good example of people behaving differently online than in person. I doubt pile-on parties between a group in person happen at the frequency they do here. If they did, the group would decrease in size rapidly.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

That is a little extreme to tell kids that even if they don't open something with a nude photo in it they can be persecuted. I don't think that is legal at all. As a lady online I get more d picks than I ever care for especially being engaged but I'm not the one breaking the law if all I do is delete it with out sending it to someone else or saving it.

This is an interesting topic you don't see much about. You know it's out there, though.

 

[NHdisneylover]

As for the other topic so many people are hung up on, it's been beaten to death & wasn't a question in the first place. This could be a good topic to discuss, if people would get back to the original question rather than beating a non-question to death. Perhaps, some of you so hung up on baby pictures could start a new thread instead of cluttering this one.

Conversations, both in real life, and online, meander and often switch gears--it's normal and happens all the time. I think it is a little bit rude rude to tell people to start a new thread rather than continuing a discussion that was brought up here (and is somewhat relevant as pointed out) right here where it was brought up.

 

[DaisyJ]

I think the PP got the message several posts ago. At this point, it's become nothing more than a pile-on party & has detracted from the topic as a whole. This is a good example of people behaving differently online than in person. I doubt pile-on parties between a group in person happen at the frequency they do here. If they did, the group would decrease in size rapidly.

But what she's doing *is* pretty much the topic, affecting someone's livelihood due to online behavior (reporting pictures that the parents gave permission to be posted) and thinking she should have control over what a business posts.

 

[wenrob]

I think the PP got the message several posts ago. At this point, it's become nothing more than a pile-on party & has detracted from the topic as a whole. This is a good example of people behaving differently online than in person. I doubt pile-on parties between a group in person happen at the frequency they do here. If they did, the group would decrease in size rapidly.

I am sincerely not looking to "pile on." I said what I said in my first two posts because I was trying to get her to see what she's doing to people she says are friends. Which by the way could have consequences for her. This is an open forum and that she says she did that could be easily be stumbled upon possibly ruining a friendship.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

You can scrub yourself. A lot of people do it. I tried to do it and had done it pretty well until my fiance's mom opened a restaurant and thought it would be great to have a flashy celebrity filled opening. Now I no longer am on the fourth or fifth page of google. sigh. The best thing to do is turn your facebook, twitter, and all social media to not being shared on search engines. That way unless someone is maliciously taking your information and screen gabbing it then uploading it somewhere else and tagging your name on it nothing from your social media will show up online searching. I also have my Facebook set that only friends can see 99% of my posts. So if any employer breaks that privacy setting to see something I know it is not an employer I would want to work for anyways.

There was something on the local news within a few weeks ago that said something to that affect but I hadn't paid much attention to it at the time. But now I might have to just look into at least to see what it's all about.

 

[wilkeliza]

This is an interesting topic you don't see much about. You know it's out there, though.

It comes and goes on twitter as a topic of conversation. One woman put in her tinder profile that if you send a d pick she'll send it to your mom. One guy did it and she found who she believe it 100% was using the perimeters of gps form tinder plus facebook and messaged the dudes mom about it and now the guy is going off about how his privacy was ruined and that she shared his picture against his will completely overlooking the fact he shared the picture with her against her will to start. I don't believe in the tit for tat of sharing it with his mom but he was warned.

 

[tarheelmjfan]

Conversations, both in real life, and online, meander and often switch gears--it's normal and happens all the time. I think it is a little bit rude rude to tell people to start a new thread rather than continuing a discussion that was brought up here (and is somewhat relevant as pointed out) right here where it was brought up.

Call it rude, if you want. The piling on that goes on here is what I have a problem with. If those hung up on the topic started another thread, the PP who made a mistake of sharing the wrong opinion could at least ignore that thread completely. After you tell someone several times that you feel their behavior is wrong, it's time to give it a rest. I can't imagine anyone continue to pile-on in real life like people do here.

 

[tarheelmjfan]

But what she's doing *is* pretty much the topic, affecting someone's livelihood due to online behavior (reporting pictures that the parents gave permission to be posted) and thinking she should have control over what a business posts.

I think she's gotten the message by now don't you?