Can I sign up with both David's Vacation Club and DVC Rental Store?

[Mickeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee]

Hi, I've been on a waiting list for almost 2 months with DVC Rental Store. I've inquired about getting added to a second waiting list at an alternate resort but I was told I can only be on one list at once. If I go to David's Vacation Club and get added to a waiting list there (at a different resort, but same dates), will that delete my original rental request with the DVC Rental Store?
Thanks.

 

[Marionnette]

Hi, I've been on a waiting list for almost 2 months with DVC Rental Store. I've inquired about getting added to a second waiting list at an alternate resort but I was told I can only be on one list at once. If I go to David's Vacation Club and get added to a waiting list there (at a different resort, but same dates), will that delete my original rental request with the DVC Rental Store?
Thanks.

No. David's has nothing to do with DVC Rental Store when it comes to overlapping requests. However, make sure that you read the fine print regarding your deposits for each agency. If they each find someone to make the reservation for you and you back out, you may lose your deposit.

I don't know when you're traveling, what resort you requested or what size room but there are things about DVC you should know.

• Any date that is more than 7 months away can only be booked by someone who owns at that resort. If that's the case, the agency you're dealing with may not have an owner with points at your particular resort. At 7 months or less, any owner can book at any resort (except maybe Riviera).
• Even if they have owners with the points you need, the room and dates may not be completely available because other owners have already booked one or more of the nights.
• If DVC Rental Store is telling you that your nights are currently unavailable (as opposed to saying they don't have an owner with points to use for your rental), David's will tell you the same thing. They don't work with separate inventories of rooms.

 

[Chuck S]

I doubt it, rental brokers generally don't communicate with each other. and legally DVC has no communication with them at all, as legally from DVC's point of view, the actual rental transaction happens between you and the DVC Owners.

The question would be how their waitlists work, in other words, are you waitlisted because you are looking for something 7 to 11 months out, and the broker currently has no owner with points available at that resort, or are you waitlisted because DVC has no availability for your dates and desired resort? If you're looking for something within the next few weeks/months, and it is a DVC availability issue, the popular resorts have been packed, especially if you want a studio unit. DVC can be a complicated animal when it comes renting, and availability. And rental brokers sort of throw another layer into the mix, but there are certainly advantages to using brokers.

As the previous poster mentioned, if DVC Rental Store is saying DVC has nothing available, all the brokers would give you the same answer, no broker has access to different availability...unless you are looking at a pre-existing reservation.

Assuming you are looking for something that DVC doesn't have available, I think your chances are slim, and your best chance may be looking at several brokers sites for pre-existing reservations. A pre-existing reservation is where a DVC Member already has the reservatron made, but needs to change it into your name. But basically, given the current state of travel, I really wouldn't be picky about a resort....if your dates and room size are available anywhere, take what you can get.

 

[Mickeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee]

Thanks for responses. To clarify, I'm not trying to check with a different broker to see if my first-choice resort is available. I want to check with a different broker to see if my second-choice resort is available, and if it isn't, to leave my name on a wait list. Then I'll just take the first one that becomes available.

Currently neither broker is permitting me to have my name on two lists, so I want to do one with one of them and one with the other. I'm ok foregoing the deposit at whichever one I don't go with. Phrased another way my question was "will Disney see my name on two lists and substitute my older request (which presumably i'm higher up on the list for) for my newer one?"

 

[pianomanzano]

Thanks for responses. To clarify, I'm not trying to check with a different broker to see if my first-choice resort is available. I want to check with a different broker to see if my second-choice resort is available, and if it isn't, to leave my name on a wait list. Then I'll just take the first one that becomes available.

Currently neither broker is permitting me to have my name on two lists, so I want to do one with one of them and one with the other. I'm ok foregoing the deposit at whichever one I don't go with. Phrased another way my question was "will Disney see my name on two lists and substitute my older request (which presumably i'm higher up on the list for) for my newer one?"

Disney has nothing to do with your requests. When you’re being put on waitlists with these brokers, these brokers are looking for current DVC owners that have points to rent out at the resort(s) you’re looking for. Disney doesn’t “see your name” anywhere because the transaction is between you and the DVC owner/member via the third-party broker (David’s or DVC rental store).

Honestly if you’re willing to forego a deposit, you’re better off just booking direct through Disney. The whole point of renting DVC through a third party broker is for cost savings, and losing a deposit would eat away at those savings. If you’re stay is less than 7 months, it’s likely that the room you want just isn’t available (as opposed to the broker just not having a DVC owner that can rent out that resort’s points).

 

[Chuck S]

To build on what the previous poster said, Disney has nothing to do with you Renting DVC, it is a private transaction between you and a DVC Owner. Think of it like renting a vacation home directly from an owner, only in this case, the owner is using a broker as a middleman.

 

[drusba]

As a renter looking for a room, you can contact a second broker for the same or alternative rental unless you have already entered into a contract with the first broker with terms that prohibit you from going to a second broker or penalize you in some way for not accepting a rental if the first broker finds an owner to provide the requested rental and you turn it down.

 

[Best Aunt]

OP, you could theoretically run into the situation of both agencies having Owners make reservations for you.

From the point of view of an owner who has rented out points through David's:

Step 1: I notified David's that I had points to rent.

Step 2: Twenty minutes after finishing the process of registering with David's, David's emailed me this:
"Congratulations! I currently have a guest interested in a rental and I have confirmed availability for their request. I am sending this request out to a few members in order to obtain the quickest reply. Are you available to make a reservation in the guest's name if I send you the details?"
The email included how many of my points would be used, and the check-in date.

Step 3: I emailed David's that I was willing to make the reservation.

Step 4: Ten minutes after that, David's emailed me with the guest's information so that I could go online to the DVC Member website and make the reservation.

I don't know if, in between these steps, David's contacted the person who wanted to rent points, and asked them if they were still interested in renting. It didn't feel like David's did that, because very little time elapsed between the steps.

I don't know how DVC Rental Store works. I think it might be different. If it works the same way, then theoretically, agency # 1 could make a reservation for you. Let's say something was going on in your life that day which prevented you from checking your email, finding out that the reservation had been made, and pulling yourself off the waitlist for agency # 2. (You're sick. Somebody in your family is sick and you're tending to them, or you're in the ER with them. You're stuck in a lengthy meeting.) Then agency # 2 has an owner make a reservation for you. Now you have 2 reservations. Maybe this highly unlikely, but you need to think it through in light of the cancellation policies at both agencies (which you need to review).

 

[nw6675]

Honestly if you’re willing to forego a deposit, you’re better off just booking direct through Disney.

The upfront deposit is so minimal it would not be a deterrent for me. Saving $$$$ in the longrun over Disney direct is worth having waitlists with multiple brokers.

 

[Marionnette]

The upfront deposit is so minimal it would not be a deterrent for me. Saving $$$$ in the longrun over Disney direct is worth having waitlists with multiple brokers.

I sure hope that some of that deposit you're willing to lose goes to the owner who spent their time booking the reservation you discard. One of the reasons that owners go through brokers is because they don't have to deal with tire-kickers and renters who back out once reservations are secured but not paid for.

 

[nw6675]

I sure hope that some of that deposit you're willing to lose goes to the owner who spent their time booking the reservation you discard. One of the reasons that owners go through brokers is because they don't have to deal with tire-kickers and renters who back out once reservations are secured but not paid for.

The rental store confirms with the renter their desire to proceed before it is reserved. Also, if one waitlist came through then the other should be removed. I would imagine that it is unlikely both would come through at the same time.

 

[Marionnette]

The rental store confirms with the renter their desire to proceed before it is reserved. Also, if one waitlist came through then the other should be removed. I would imagine that it is unlikely both would come through at the same time.

David's does not confirm with the renter first. They collect a deposit with the understanding that you are making a request to rent in good faith. That's why they keep the deposit if you don't follow through. They contact owners as soon as availability opens up and the first one to respond to the request gets the booking info. They don't mess around waiting for a potential renter to make up their mind while inventory disappears.

 

[nw6675]

David's does not confirm with the renter first. They collect a deposit with the understanding that you are making a request to rent in good faith. That's why they keep the deposit if you don't follow through. They contact owners as soon as availability opens up and the first one to respond to the request gets the booking info. They don't mess around waiting for a potential renter to make up their mind while inventory disappears.

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Understood, but the renter in this case is making a good faith reservation. If I need a reservation and I check with two companies (not at the same time) who say they have no availability, but can waitlist - then I may say yes to waitlist both. If and when one came through, I would book and cancel the search for the second. Highly unlikely, in this market, that both would happen simultaneously.

However, I personally do not wait list as I prefer a sure thing. I always check with the rental store first and if nothing immediately available, check with David's.

My initial point was $100 or so deposit for the points search is not likely going to be a big deal for most as suggested by a pp.

 

[Mickeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee]

Thanks again for the discussion - to clarify, both reservations are in good faith; I just want the one that comes up first. My immediate next move would be to cancel the other one. I suppose it's possible that both will hit at the exact same time but I deem that unlikely.