California legalizes dogs in restaurants

[Hrhpd]

To me dedicated dog area in an outside bar would be on lease, off the tables, and not free to roam because it is a bar not a dog park. Though I bet a lot of people in Ca are going to interpret the new law that goes into effect next year the same as you and let their dogs do all of the above even though the intent of the law clearly states that dogs must be on leases, not allowed to sit on tables and benches, etc.

If you read my whole post that you quoted, I did say that this was a quasi dog-park with a bar attached. There are several in our area. Dogs are not allowed inside the bar and the dog park area is fenced off from the other patio. The dogs are also allowed on the patio, but that is more formal rules, such as being on leash and behaving.

We also have the typical restaurants with patios where dogs are allowed. I would say 99% of the restaurants around us with patios allow dogs. We eat out frequently and I have yet to see the problems outlined in the Salty Dog Cafe rules linked above.

I would venture to guess that the difference would be that the Salty Dog was unique in its area to allow dogs. So, you would get all types of people who brought their dogs on a whim.

In our area, it is so common, it is not a novelty to bring your dog to a restaurant. So, you don't get all the newbies wanting to bring Princess to dinner just because they can.

You usually see well behaved dogs that are used to going out and about with their owners. Dog responsibility is almost a snooty past time here, in a good way. Owners with unruly dogs are NOT welcome in the club and you better believe the responsible dog owners will say something and ask an unruly dog to leave the premises long before the establishment owners would ask them to leave.

I see this also happening in California. It is going to be the serious dog owners that take their dogs to restaurants.

 

[EMom]

There are a lot of normal, sane dog owners. But I think a decent number of dog owners are just nuts. You know, the ones who HAVE to take their dogs EVERYWHERE. A decent number of cat owners are nuts too, but crazy cat folk keep their crazy locked up and hidden at home so you aren't really affected by it.

 

[MonkeyDishwasher]

There is a small restaurant chain in Southern California, The Lazy Dog Cafe, which openly welcomes dogs and their owners onto their patios to eat. There are established rules, though:

No Barking, No Biting, No Begging. Dogs must stay on their leashes and off of the tables, chairs, and owners' laps. The servers are not allowed to pet the animals, and owners may not feed their animals off of their plates. The restaurant offers a chicken and rice or burger patty and rice meal for the dogs for $4.95, and is always happy to offer water for the pooches.

The patios are accessible from the outside, and no dogs go inside the restaurant itself. If one is allergic, the inside is totally safe from dogs and their allergy inducing properties. I am actually allergic to dogs, but I have a schnoodle (Schnauzer Poodle mix, hypoallergenic), and have experienced no allergy related issues while dining at any of the Lazy Dog properties. It's actually really sweet to see the dogs socialize a bit, and all of the owners walk in knowing that if their dogs become rowdy, they will be asked to leave.

Don't like dogs? The food is still REALLY good, just go in through the regular entrance and you'll be just fine, and you'd never know there were dogs sitting just outside on the patio.

 

[Ceila]

We have seen dogs, dining indoors in numerous European restaurants. They were clean, quiet and very well behaved. We had no problem with them at all.

Exactly. We probably wouldn't even have noticed them, but we were missing our own dog, so we seemed to hone in on those that were around us. Every single one stayed right by their owner's chair and they never barked.

 

[tomthebarncat]

There's no place in the world where dog is a diet staple. It's generally a delicacy or luxury food. They're carnivores, and the raising of dogs for meat is very expensive. Now occasionally strays are rounded up, but my understanding is that dogs sold for meat are supposed to be fed specific diets that might affect the meat.

"Domesticated animals" are illegal to slaughter for meat or keep a carcass for meat in California. Farm animals are of course not considered domesticated animals, although horses were made illegal to slaughter for meat or consume in California because of a ballot initiative in the 90s.

Here is Asia, they are not specifically breed for the dinner table, but are strays and pets that are stolen. It would cost too much to raise them and at least in China, it is greed before humanity. Here is a link to a group that is working very hard to keep dogs off the dinner table: http://www.soidog.org/. I live in China, and often wonder what I am eating as they eat a lot of stuff that in the rest of the world would be left on the slaughterhouse floor. As for pets in restaurants, I have lived in Germany for 15 years and our dog goes everywhere we go, only once did someone complain. My little dog was sound sleep on the floor and the older couple had to walk over him. It was in Lucerne, Switzerland, and older American couple complained to the Maitr'd that dogs are not allowed in restaurants in America. The Maitr'd then proudly stated " Sir, you are not in America and the dog is a registered guest". Anyway, here is a picture of me and our current furbaby in a restaurant in Germany!

 

[FlightlessDuck]

Huh. I think Pennsylvania allows that. Or, if they don't nobody ever does anything about it. Our downtown historic Main Street has plenty of outside dining and I see dogs all the time.

 

[Domo]

Here in the UK dogs are allowed at the restaurant's permission. Usually guide dogs are allowed pretty much everywhere.